"Prince was like a combination between Mozart, Charlie Chaplin and Michael Corleone".

In part 3 Sam discusses Prince's legacy with Hans-Martin Buff, and asks him why he chose to leave Paisley Park. Interesting discussion about 'the elders' - Chaka; Larry & Maceo - too.

https://how-can-u-just-leave-me-standing.simplecast.com/episodes/hans-martin-buff-in-interview-with-sam-bleazard-part-3

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Tokyo2 said:

"Prince was like a combination between Mozart, Charlie Chaplin and Michael Corleone".

In part 3 Sam discusses Prince's legacy with Hans-Martin Buff, and asks him why he chose to leave Paisley Park. Interesting discussion about 'the elders' - Chaka; Larry & Maceo - too.

https://how-can-u-just-leave-me-standing.simplecast.com/episodes/hans-martin-buff-in-interview-with-sam-bleazard-part-3

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Corleone? Really? Come on, Hans. Not funny at all.
(And yes, I understand what he meant, but still. Let's just not use the name of a criminal in the same sentence as Prince's.)

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Thanks. It's very interesting and insightful.

Kares said:

Tokyo2 said:

Corleone? Really? Come on, Hans. Not funny at all.
(And yes, I understand what he meant, but still. Let's just not use the name of a criminal in the same sentence as Prince's.)

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Nothing wrong about that. he said clearly "not meant in a nasty way"

The use of Corleone's fictional character story within the explanation of Hans makes perfect sense.

A perfect example of the hard wrong choice Prince made;

either you're in the Prince compound or not.

Vannormal said:

Kares said:

Corleone? Really? Come on, Hans. Not funny at all.
(And yes, I understand what he meant, but still. Let's just not use the name of a criminal in the same sentence as Prince's.)

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Nothing wrong about that. he said clearly "not meant in a nasty way"

The use of Corleone's fictional character story within the explanation of Hans makes perfect sense.

A perfect example of the hard wrong choice Prince made;

either you're in the Prince compound or not.

Meh... It's still cringe.

They've been humanized so the metaphor of the American Dream would hit properly, but the Corleone, father and son, are still despicable characters.
Mafiosis are the leeches of the world.

To root for them means having unconsciously absorbed the violence inherent to capitalism.
That's precisely where Puzzo and Coppola wanted to put their audience: in a very disturbing place. But you're only aware of it if you were taught to question the world. Otherwise, you're left staying on the surface of things.

"Pygmalion" would have been a better reference, but being a european one (and a much more refined one), little wonder it didn't land on the other side of the pond.

250 years on and still no culture worth of the term (except for a tad on the edges, but only because they remember they once were europeans).
Le sigh.

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Hans-Martin Buff already told his stories involving Chaka Khan to The Violet Reality on YouTube in 2018, but the story of how he stopped working for was new to me. As he was telling how he got fired, I just knew that would call and ask for him back, but I understand why he wouldn't go back.

I was disappointed that H.M. Buff thought The Rainbow Children was great, though. Surely he meant that "it wasn't great, but it was greatly done", like he said he thought about a lot of the songs made during his tenure in the joint YouTube interview he did with Richard Furch a year ago.

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scififilmnerd said:

Hans-Martin Buff already told his stories involving Chaka Khan to The Violet Reality on YouTube in 2018, but the story of how he stopped working for was new to me. As he was telling how he got fired, I just knew that would call and ask for him back, but I understand why he wouldn't go back.

I was disappointed that H.M. Buff thought The Rainbow Children was great, though. Surely he meant that "it wasn't great, but it was greatly done", like he said he thought about a lot of the songs made during his tenure in the joint YouTube interview he did with Richard Furch a year ago.

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Why does it hurt you that someone thinks The Rainbow Children is great? I think it's absolutely brilliant too.

Kares said:

scififilmnerd said:

Hans-Martin Buff already told his stories involving Chaka Khan to The Violet Reality on YouTube in 2018, but the story of how he stopped working for was new to me. As he was telling how he got fired, I just knew that would call and ask for him back, but I understand why he wouldn't go back.

I was disappointed that H.M. Buff thought The Rainbow Children was great, though. Surely he meant that "it wasn't great, but it was greatly done", like he said he thought about a lot of the songs made during his tenure in the joint YouTube interview he did with Richard Furch a year ago.

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Why does it hurt you that someone thinks The Rainbow Children is great? I think it's absolutely brilliant too.

Well, I can't listen to it without feeling like its evil is tearing at my soul. It affects my mental health negatively. I hadn't listened to it since it came out and gave it a new try a few years ago, but I had to take it off after a few songs. It was just awful. And then, after a few few minutes after taking it off, I felt good again.

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Kares said:

luv2tha99s said:

Kares said:

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Corleone? Really? Come on, Hans. Not funny at all.
(And yes, I understand what he meant, but still. Let's just not use the name of a criminal in the same sentence as Prince's.)

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Pssst...it's a movieeee...

So is "The Birth of a Nation".

So is "Top Gun", a turd that probably gave the Pentagon recruitment department a hard-on.

To think that movies, or more broadly, the Hollywood Dream Factory, are harmless or incapable of twisting the public consciousness is utterly naive.

"Wag The Dog", among others, explains it brilliantly.

BonnieC said:

That's precisely where Puzzo and Coppola wanted to put their audience: in a very disturbing place. But you're only aware of it if you were taught to question the world. Otherwise, you're left staying on the surface of things.

So your comment is exactly was I was talking about.

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luv2tha99s said:

Kares said:

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Corleone? Really? Come on, Hans. Not funny at all.
(And yes, I understand what he meant, but still. Let's just not use the name of a criminal in the same sentence as Prince's.)

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Pssst...it's a movieeee...

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Nope. In our public conscience the Corleone name has become a symbol of the evil mobster, especially because we know more about "him" than any real life mobsters.
Calling someone a monster doesn't go down well either, even though we know monsters aren't real.

Thank you for this new podcast ☺️

Kares said:

luv2tha99s said:

Kares said: Pssst...it's a movieeee...

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Nope. In our public conscience the Corleone name has become a symbol of the evil mobster, especially because we know more about "him" than any real life mobsters.
Calling someone a monster doesn't go down well either, even though we know monsters aren't real.

1. Did you listen to the podcast? HMB stated that he was only Corleone in the sense that you were either "in the (Paisley Park/Prince) family" or you weren't. It was an inner circle of trust thing more than a mob thing.

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2. Prince himself once said that his style was "Godfather 3 meets Barbarella" aka "Gangster Glam." So I'm not sure Prince would actually even care about this reference.

skywalker said:

2. Prince himself once said that his style was "Godfather 3 meets Barbarella" aka "Gangster Glam." So I'm not sure Prince would actually even care about this reference.

The Madhouse 16 album comes to mind.