"Prince was like a combination between Mozart, Charlie Chaplin and Michael Corleone".

In part 3 Sam discusses Prince's legacy with Hans-Martin Buff, and asks him why he chose to leave Paisley Park. Interesting discussion about 'the elders' - Chaka; Larry & Maceo - too.

https://how-can-u-just-leave-me-standing.simplecast.com/episodes/hans-martin-buff-in-interview-with-sam-bleazard-part-3

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Tokyo2 said:

"Prince was like a combination between Mozart, Charlie Chaplin and Michael Corleone".

In part 3 Sam discusses Prince's legacy with Hans-Martin Buff, and asks him why he chose to leave Paisley Park. Interesting discussion about 'the elders' - Chaka; Larry & Maceo - too.

https://how-can-u-just-leave-me-standing.simplecast.com/episodes/hans-martin-buff-in-interview-with-sam-bleazard-part-3

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Corleone? Really? Come on, Hans. Not funny at all.
(And yes, I understand what he meant, but still. Let's just not use the name of a criminal in the same sentence as Prince's.)

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Thanks. It's very interesting and insightful.

Kares said:

Tokyo2 said:

Corleone? Really? Come on, Hans. Not funny at all.
(And yes, I understand what he meant, but still. Let's just not use the name of a criminal in the same sentence as Prince's.)

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Nothing wrong about that. he said clearly "not meant in a nasty way"

The use of Corleone's fictional character story within the explanation of Hans makes perfect sense.

A perfect example of the hard wrong choice Prince made;

either you're in the Prince compound or not.

Vannormal said:

Kares said:

Corleone? Really? Come on, Hans. Not funny at all.
(And yes, I understand what he meant, but still. Let's just not use the name of a criminal in the same sentence as Prince's.)

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Nothing wrong about that. he said clearly "not meant in a nasty way"

The use of Corleone's fictional character story within the explanation of Hans makes perfect sense.

A perfect example of the hard wrong choice Prince made;

either you're in the Prince compound or not.

Meh... It's still cringe.

They've been humanized so the metaphor of the American Dream would hit properly, but the Corleone, father and son, are still despicable characters.
Mafiosis are the leeches of the world.

To root for them means having unconsciously absorbed the violence inherent to capitalism.
That's precisely where Puzzo and Coppola wanted to put their audience: in a very disturbing place. But you're only aware of it if you were taught to question the world. Otherwise, you're left staying on the surface of things.

"Pygmalion" would have been a better reference, but being a european one (and a much more refined one), little wonder it didn't land on the other side of the pond.

250 years on and still no culture worth of the term (except for a tad on the edges, but only because they remember they once were europeans).
Le sigh.

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Hans-Martin Buff already told his stories involving Chaka Khan to The Violet Reality on YouTube in 2018, but the story of how he stopped working for was new to me. As he was telling how he got fired, I just knew that would call and ask for him back, but I understand why he wouldn't go back.

I was disappointed that H.M. Buff thought The Rainbow Children was great, though. Surely he meant that "it wasn't great, but it was greatly done", like he said he thought about a lot of the songs made during his tenure in the joint YouTube interview he did with Richard Furch a year ago.

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scififilmnerd said:

Hans-Martin Buff already told his stories involving Chaka Khan to The Violet Reality on YouTube in 2018, but the story of how he stopped working for was new to me. As he was telling how he got fired, I just knew that would call and ask for him back, but I understand why he wouldn't go back.

I was disappointed that H.M. Buff thought The Rainbow Children was great, though. Surely he meant that "it wasn't great, but it was greatly done", like he said he thought about a lot of the songs made during his tenure in the joint YouTube interview he did with Richard Furch a year ago.

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Why does it hurt you that someone thinks The Rainbow Children is great? I think it's absolutely brilliant too.

Kares said:

scififilmnerd said:

Hans-Martin Buff already told his stories involving Chaka Khan to The Violet Reality on YouTube in 2018, but the story of how he stopped working for was new to me. As he was telling how he got fired, I just knew that would call and ask for him back, but I understand why he wouldn't go back.

I was disappointed that H.M. Buff thought The Rainbow Children was great, though. Surely he meant that "it wasn't great, but it was greatly done", like he said he thought about a lot of the songs made during his tenure in the joint YouTube interview he did with Richard Furch a year ago.

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Why does it hurt you that someone thinks The Rainbow Children is great? I think it's absolutely brilliant too.

Well, I can't listen to it without feeling like its evil is tearing at my soul. It affects my mental health negatively. I hadn't listened to it since it came out and gave it a new try a few years ago, but I had to take it off after a few songs. It was just awful. And then, after a few few minutes after taking it off, I felt good again.

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Kares said:

luv2tha99s said:

Kares said:

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Corleone? Really? Come on, Hans. Not funny at all.
(And yes, I understand what he meant, but still. Let's just not use the name of a criminal in the same sentence as Prince's.)

Pssst...it's a movieeee...

So is "The Birth of a Nation".

So is "Top Gun", a turd that probably gave the Pentagon recruitment department a hard-on.

To think that movies, or more broadly, the Hollywood Dream Factory, are harmless or incapable of twisting the public consciousness is utterly naive.

"Wag The Dog", among others, explains it brilliantly.

BonnieC said:

That's precisely where Puzzo and Coppola wanted to put their audience: in a very disturbing place. But you're only aware of it if you were taught to question the world. Otherwise, you're left staying on the surface of things.

Your "Pssst" comment seems to reflect exactly this.
No, art isn't just surface.

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luv2tha99s said:

Kares said:

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Corleone? Really? Come on, Hans. Not funny at all.
(And yes, I understand what he meant, but still. Let's just not use the name of a criminal in the same sentence as Prince's.)

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Pssst...it's a movieeee...

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Nope. In our public conscience the Corleone name has become a symbol of the evil mobster, especially because we know more about "him" than any real life mobsters.
Calling someone a monster doesn't go down well either, even though we know monsters aren't real.

Thank you for this new podcast ☺️

Kares said:

luv2tha99s said:

Kares said: Pssst...it's a movieeee...

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Nope. In our public conscience the Corleone name has become a symbol of the evil mobster, especially because we know more about "him" than any real life mobsters.
Calling someone a monster doesn't go down well either, even though we know monsters aren't real.

1. Did you listen to the podcast? HMB stated that he was only Corleone in the sense that you were either "in the (Paisley Park/Prince) family" or you weren't. It was an inner circle of trust thing more than a mob thing.

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2. Prince himself once said that his style was "Godfather 3 meets Barbarella" aka "Gangster Glam." So I'm not sure Prince would actually even care about this reference.

skywalker said:

2. Prince himself once said that his style was "Godfather 3 meets Barbarella" aka "Gangster Glam." So I'm not sure Prince would actually even care about this reference.

The Madhouse 16 album comes to mind.

BonnieC said:

luv2tha99s said:

BonnieC said:

So your comment is exactly was I was talking about.

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In one sentence you say that all movies are that come from Hollywood specifically are horrible yet you use a Hollywood movie to decry other Hollywood movies. You can't have your cake and eat it too homie. People will use anything to justify their narrative... once again, it's ONLY a movie.

You're the one that thinks that all movies,
or rather, any movie that had some sort of success,
is a "Hollywood movie".

Just like "Purple Rain", "The Godfather" is a blockbuster by accident,
just like The Beatles were, and a ton of other examples.
Their massive success suprised their very authors,
it's documented in all of their biographies.

They were never products thought and specifically made to sell pop-corns,
which is what Hollywood is all about.

The fact that these works and creators resonated within the mass consciousness
are, as Alan Leeds would put it, cosmic events, and are entirely distinguishable
from the mindset and modus operandi of the studios or wrecka companies that produced them.

They're accidents, but you mistake them for intentional "blockbusters".
The concept of success and fame blurs your vision.
The usual american perverted view about what art is.

Francis Ford Coppola always defended indepedent film makers (he is one),
and fought all his life for artistic independence, just like Prince did.

You're free to think art is just a commodity.
Something to consume, something you eat and flush down the toilet.

By that measure, if SKipper's records are JUST records,
it's hard for me to understand what your interest in
Prince's work consists of, but hey, suit yourself, "homie".

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Kares said:

scififilmnerd said:

Hans-Martin Buff already told his stories involving Chaka Khan to The Violet Reality on YouTube in 2018, but the story of how he stopped working for was new to me. As he was telling how he got fired, I just knew that would call and ask for him back, but I understand why he wouldn't go back.

I was disappointed that H.M. Buff thought The Rainbow Children was great, though. Surely he meant that "it wasn't great, but it was greatly done", like he said he thought about a lot of the songs made during his tenure in the joint YouTube interview he did with Richard Furch a year ago.

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Why does it hurt you that someone thinks The Rainbow Children is great? I think it's absolutely brilliant too.

For most who don't like it, it's because of the cringy lyrical doubtfull nonsense content.

Vannormal said:

Kares said:

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Why does it hurt you that someone thinks The Rainbow Children is great? I think it's absolutely brilliant too.

For most who don't like it, it's because of the cringy lyrical doubtfull nonsense content.

Yes, the lyrics are awful. It's a Jehova's Witnesses record, and that doesn't sit well with me. Also, the song structures are experimental and not your usual pop and rock constructions and I like music that follows popular formula. And is it just me, or does Prince look like a demon, peeking out between the front and back cover paintings? I think the album reflects Prince's dark side.

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