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TTD/sananda maitreya on prince and the new John Mckie book

From his Facebook page -

We would like to THANK JOHN McKIE for his very well Authored book on one of our Best Friends & Heroes, ‘The Artist Known Most Often As Not As Prince’.

Your Boy (the Me Myself) was interviewed for this very readable bedside tome for what insights & anecdotes were applicable to the questions asked & at whatever age, it’s still kind of COOL 😎 to be a part of the telling of a great & original Artist’s Story.

One of THE GREATEST & most Visionary of this or any other lifetime. Even as he welcomed me into his circle of regard, we remained forever suitably in
AWE of him.

And he worked SO HARD & so MUCH, that he was an influence on my decision to NOT work AS hard as he in order to have genuine experiences to live & write about.

To get out of the Studio & into Café atmospheres & places where conversations & conundrums gather to tempt one’s ear with a phrase or a lover’s dilemma inhabiting the rough patch between determination, devotion, & dogma.

I could talk to him if necessary about ANYTHING, & he always kindly availed himself to us whenever we’d reach out.

We even had a strong ‘telepathic alignment’ & we would as often as not ‘know’ when he was trying to contact us or if we were strongly on his mind.

For quite selfish reasons I miss this version of his life.

He for sure isn’t ‘dead’, he’s just not ‘here’, (anymore in this raggedy motherfucker), although WHAT IS ALIVE TO SPIRIT IS FOREVER ALIVE in whatever form or format inhabited currently.

He also had very powerful NATIVE AMERICAN Bloodlines, & Natives don’t buy into the Western concept of ‘death’. WE DO NOT DIE, 💀we just collect our senses, thank the ‘Great Father’ along with Mother Earth, & get the hell out of Dodge.

No one needs to suffer a life they don’t wish to bear further witness to, & Angels in Distress are always ushered away when the signal is given that ‘ENOUGH IS ENOUGH’.

Unless they instead CHOOSE to ‘dedicate their suffering to a cause’ benefitting from the purpose of the particular meditation, for LIFE ITSELF IS OUR GREAT MEDITATION.

And our big brother Prince Rogers Nelson (sometimes I’d call him ‘Lord Nelson’ or ‘The Admiral’, most of the time I reflexively called him ‘Chief’) had fulfilled his basic purpose, & didn’t owe the World not even a scintilla of deliberation more.

WE BARELY DESERVE WHAT HE DID LEAVE US & are more fortunate than we might now perceptibly comprehend. He served proudly & with distinction in the procession of our Human Evolution, we’re not quite the same bitches without him.

Like more than a few, I’ve my doubts about the ‘official narrative’ surrounding his departure, then again MOST of ‘those’ stories are palatable bullshit meant for our public consumption (but also to ‘send a message’ to the observant among the relevant constituencies).

Prince & Michael represented too much power for the structures that fought hard their liberation & THE MORE THINGS CHANGE, the more the shit just stares you down, looks you in the face & asks you ‘WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT ?’, while daring you to see it for what it is & CALL IT THAT.

Both of their PROFILES were typically NOT the images & examples the Powers That Be look to perpetuate. TOO GENIUS, TOO POWERFUL, TOO INDEPENDENT, TOO SMART, too strong & eventually TOO DIFFICULT TO CONTROL.

In any event, NONE OF THAT MATTERS NOW.

Lord Nelson is safe, he is home, he is now wherever he wants to be, no longer confined by the accepted & perceived limitations of our physical bodies as programmed by Western Mores.

Thanx Again John McKie (& say Hello to your Cousin John from Fleetwood Mac) ! 🤔

GET THIS BOOK❗️

Sananda Maitreya !
Tuesday 18 Nov 2025
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👽 The Author John McKie presented us with this Copy at one of our Concerts on the English Tour 2025. 🙏❤️

⬆️ Judging by McKie’s handwriting, he should’ve been a Doctor !

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Reply #1 posted 11/20/25 10:38am

JorisE73

Still a pretentious douche. Still trying to align himslef with Prince and MJ. Prince didn't even like the guy and had him removed from Paisley Park several times when he didn't pick up any signals on his made up telepatrhy connection with Prince lol

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Reply #2 posted 11/20/25 10:59am

Vannormal

...the artist formerly know as a boxer, right?

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #3 posted 11/20/25 3:17pm

Germanegro

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Sounds worth checking out. I'll look in2 this text & thanks for broadcasting it!
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Reply #4 posted 11/20/25 9:50pm

nxx

I love Sananda. Saw him live recently in London and he was amazing.

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Reply #5 posted 11/21/25 7:02am

NICKthebrick

I think his first 5 albums were fantastic.

I've got this book on my Christmas list
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Reply #6 posted 11/21/25 7:52am

leecaldon

nxx said:

I love Sananda. Saw him live recently in London and he was amazing.

A great gig.

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Reply #7 posted 11/21/25 11:02am

ShellyMcG

He's got some really good songs ,no doubt about that.

However...

I've finally figured out what that echo is every time I hear him speak. It's because his head is so far up his own arse.
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Reply #8 posted 11/21/25 11:23am

nxx

No idea why some Prince fans love to crap on SM. He's amazing if eccentric talent, and has always spoken of Prince with nothing but love, respect and admiration.

His run of albums from Hardline through to Wildcard was insanely great, like... imagine if Prince did 5 or 6 x SoTTs back-to-back. Although the post-millennium work is patchier there have still been some really great work. He's a little underappreciated imho.

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Reply #9 posted 11/21/25 12:27pm

JorisE73

nxx said:

No idea why some Prince fans love to crap on SM. He's amazing if eccentric talent, and has always spoken of Prince with nothing but love, respect and admiration.

His run of albums from Hardline through to Wildcard was insanely great, like... imagine if Prince did 5 or 6 x SoTTs back-to-back. Although the post-millennium work is patchier there have still been some really great work. He's a little underappreciated imho.


See ShellyMcG's post above you.
His albums weren't anything special when the likes of Prince and MJ were arpound. Lenny Kravitz was already on the horizon doing cooler and more original things instead of jacking Prince and MJ and thinking he was up there with them. TTD was just a fad for one album.

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Reply #10 posted 11/21/25 3:52pm

nxx

JorisE73 said:

nxx said:

No idea why some Prince fans love to crap on SM. He's amazing if eccentric talent, and has always spoken of Prince with nothing but love, respect and admiration.

His run of albums from Hardline through to Wildcard was insanely great, like... imagine if Prince did 5 or 6 x SoTTs back-to-back. Although the post-millennium work is patchier there have still been some really great work. He's a little underappreciated imho.


See ShellyMcG's post above you.
His albums weren't anything special when the likes of Prince and MJ were arpound. Lenny Kravitz was already on the horizon doing cooler and more original things instead of jacking Prince and MJ and thinking he was up there with them. TTD was just a fad for one album.

I don't agree with this take, at all. Sananda is amazing artist imho, and I'd encourage you to explore his back catalogue in more detail.

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Reply #11 posted 11/21/25 6:37pm

kindofblue

I completely agree with nxx here. Doesn't make any sense to put other artists down, but TTDs/Sndanas first 4 to 5 albums are a lot more creative, musically diverse and accomplished then Lenny Kravitz's entire catalogue. I strongly suggest to listen again with open ears, y'all are missing out on a lot of great stuff!!

nxx said:

JorisE73 said:


See ShellyMcG's post above you.
His albums weren't anything special when the likes of Prince and MJ were arpound. Lenny Kravitz was already on the horizon doing cooler and more original things instead of jacking Prince and MJ and thinking he was up there with them. TTD was just a fad for one album.

I don't agree with this take, at all. Sananda is amazing artist imho, and I'd encourage you to explore his back catalogue in more detail.

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Reply #12 posted 11/21/25 8:35pm

nxx

Well said kindofblue! I'm definitely a big fan of all those artists, music doesn't need to be a competitive sport haha.

I'd definitely encourage folk to re-assess Sananda's work, if they're curious. His early run of albums (up to and including Wildcard) was IMHO very comparable to Prince's golden-era run in the 80s and Stevie's run of landmark albums in the 70s.


Like Prince, his later indie work became more bloated and patchy (from Angels & Vampires up to the Pegasus Project and the live record) but there's some really great songs in there too so it's worth sifting through the back catalogue a bit to pan for gold, there are masterpieces there. All I can say is that his work still touches my heart in 2025, as someone who first became a fan in 87.

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Reply #13 posted 11/21/25 10:26pm

Raevene

People complaining about TTD being eccentric have conveniently forgotten what Prince and MJ were like when they were alive

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Reply #14 posted 11/22/25 10:58am

ShellyMcG

Raevene said:

People complaining about TTD being eccentric have conveniently forgotten what Prince and MJ were like when they were alive



Oh I definitely haven't forgotten what they were like. Both Prince and Michael Jackson could be very full of shit at times. But they had the talent to back it up. They were megastars with a critically acclaimed back catalogue.

Now, I'm not saying Terrence Trent D'Arby is not talented. He's a good artist. But good's about it. He doesn't have the career or output to cover for his "eccentricities". If anything, it just detracts from his actual music.
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Reply #15 posted 11/22/25 11:07am

nxx

His name is Sananda now fyi. As for eccentricity, I find him more approachable, self-aware, humorous and human than most ex popstars, but there's certainly an ego there too ofc. He was a big star at one point.

Maybe changing his name, opting for a quieter life in Milan and going indie after around 95 was the right move for him.

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Reply #16 posted 11/22/25 12:57pm

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I dig his first 5 albums. The cover/title of "Vibrator" is maximum cringe, however. After "Wildcard" he leaned into cringe without boundaries.

Too many tracks and albums of mediocrity and plain weirdness since then. TTD/Sananda still has an incredible voice. Bottom line he sabotaged his own career and I get the impression from interviews and commentary on his website he knows this. Still he doubles and triples down. Still those firsy five albums are mostly terrific.

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Reply #17 posted 11/22/25 2:55pm

nxx

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Reply #18 posted 11/22/25 9:16pm

ShellyMcG

nxx said:

His name is Sananda now fyi. As for eccentricity, I find him more approachable, self-aware, humorous and human than most ex popstars, but there's certainly an ego there too ofc. He was a big star at one point.


Maybe changing his name, opting for a quieter life in Milan and going indie after around 95 was the right move for him.



You're obviously a much bigger fan of him than most other people. I doubt even he, big-headed as he is, would describe his first 6 albums as being like 6 Sign of the Times in a row.

His first album was good. Wildcard was his best in my opinion. Everything in between ranges from just plain "meh" to absolute shit. And everything I've heard since has been absolutely awful.

But that's just my opinion of his work. Everyone has their own opinions and everyone likes different things. But surely nobody can deny that the man who said "Terence Trent D'Arby was dead... he watched his suffering as he died a noble death. After intense pain I meditated for a new spirit, a new will, a new identity" is so full of shit that it's coming out of his ears lol
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Reply #19 posted 11/22/25 9:37pm

nxx

Yeah true, I totally admit I have no objectivity here haha. Apple Music told me I was in the top 1% of his listeners haha so I feel like maybe I'm just a fan for life, his work touches my heart even when it's a bit of a miss creatively / commercially.

Lol I'd forgotten that little speech you mentioned tho, you have a good memory! So cringe isn't it!

FWIW my favourite album of his is actually Neither Fish Nor Flesh... I never understood why it got such a kicking in the press at the time, I love every second of it. I was so glad he played "Billie Don't Fall" on the recent tour. Plus the album was recorded in Dublin!


But I also loved Symphony or Damn, I really think those two records are underappreciated.

Since you've all been very gracious indulging my SM / TTD obsession on here I'll just say that his recentish single "Love Is Blind" is such an earworm, I can't get it out of my head. He also did a great song with Jellybean Johnson (RIP) on the current album which is worth checking out.


Love Is Blind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwf7cR44ehI

Walk On feat Jellybean Johnson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWWiTRA_KLg

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Reply #20 posted 11/22/25 10:42pm

JoeyCococo

nxx said:

His name is Sananda now fyi. As for eccentricity, I find him more approachable, self-aware, humorous and human than most ex popstars, but there's certainly an ego there too ofc. He was a big star at one point.

Maybe changing his name, opting for a quieter life in Milan and going indie after around 95 was the right move for him.

He obviously learned that the egotism did not help. I'll still say, this 3rd and 4th albums (Symphony and Vibrator) are some of the best albums ever. He's a treasure no doubt.

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Reply #21 posted 11/22/25 11:39pm

ShellyMcG

nxx said:

Yeah true, I totally admit I have no objectivity here haha. Apple Music told me I was in the top 1% of his listeners haha so I feel like maybe I'm just a fan for life, his work touches my heart even when it's a bit of a miss creatively / commercially.



Lol I'd forgotten that little speech you mentioned tho, you have a good memory! So cringe isn't it!



FWIW my favourite album of his is actually Neither Fish Nor Flesh... I never understood why it got such a kicking in the press at the time, I love every second of it. I was so glad he played "Billie Don't Fall" on the recent tour. Plus the album was recorded in Dublin!



But I also loved Symphony or Damn, I really think those two records are underappreciated.

Since you've all been very gracious indulging my SM / TTD obsession on here I'll just say that his recentish single "Love Is Blind" is such an earworm, I can't get it out of my head. He also did a great song with Jellybean Johnson (RIP) on the current album which is worth checking out.



Love Is Blind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwf7cR44ehI

Walk On feat Jellybean Johnson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWWiTRA_KLg

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They're not bad. But they don't really do much for me either. For me, nothing he's done can top Wildcard. Designated Fool sits in my top 10 most played songs of the year. Absolutely mesmerizing song. I wish he'd do more like that one.
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Reply #22 posted 11/23/25 8:54am

psyche2

JoeyCococo said:

nxx said:

His name is Sananda now fyi. As for eccentricity, I find him more approachable, self-aware, humorous and human than most ex popstars, but there's certainly an ego there too ofc. He was a big star at one point.

Maybe changing his name, opting for a quieter life in Milan and going indie after around 95 was the right move for him.

He obviously learned that the egotism did not help. I'll still say, this 3rd and 4th albums (Symphony and Vibrator) are some of the best albums ever. He's a treasure no doubt.

Yep, I agree. Those two albums are among my favorites, and the tours backing them up were fire.

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That was his peak for me. And while "Wildcard" is very nice, his output since then (and there's A LOT) has not been up to the standards of those two records.

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Reply #23 posted 11/24/25 9:47am

JorisE73

nxx said:

JorisE73 said:


See ShellyMcG's post above you.
His albums weren't anything special when the likes of Prince and MJ were arpound. Lenny Kravitz was already on the horizon doing cooler and more original things instead of jacking Prince and MJ and thinking he was up there with them. TTD was just a fad for one album.

I don't agree with this take, at all. Sananda is amazing artist imho, and I'd encourage you to explore his back catalogue in more detail.

[Edited 11/21/25 15:56pm]


I have listened to his albums to much when they came out and flopped except for his debut and I agree why they flopped. I think it's just plain boring albums compared to the albums that came out when his were, I don't hear anything special or innovative in his work that wasn't done better by others. I understand people like his music, I just heard better.

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Reply #24 posted 11/24/25 12:21pm

nxx

To each their own I guess.

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Reply #25 posted 11/24/25 7:54pm

whodknee

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This post on his Facebook page kind of mirrors his musical output. There's some good material in there but you need patience and perseverance to find it.

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Reply #26 posted 11/26/25 7:07am

leecaldon

JorisE73 said:

nxx said:

No idea why some Prince fans love to crap on SM. He's amazing if eccentric talent, and has always spoken of Prince with nothing but love, respect and admiration.

His run of albums from Hardline through to Wildcard was insanely great, like... imagine if Prince did 5 or 6 x SoTTs back-to-back. Although the post-millennium work is patchier there have still been some really great work. He's a little underappreciated imho.


See ShellyMcG's post above you.
His albums weren't anything special when the likes of Prince and MJ were arpound. Lenny Kravitz was already on the horizon doing cooler and more original things instead of jacking Prince and MJ and thinking he was up there with them. TTD was just a fad for one album.

Symphony Or Damn wants a word with you. For me, it's one of the most creative, sonically interesting albums of the decade. It also produced several top 20 hits.

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Reply #27 posted 11/26/25 9:12am

JorisE73

leecaldon said:

JorisE73 said:


See ShellyMcG's post above you.
His albums weren't anything special when the likes of Prince and MJ were arpound. Lenny Kravitz was already on the horizon doing cooler and more original things instead of jacking Prince and MJ and thinking he was up there with them. TTD was just a fad for one album.

Symphony Or Damn wants a word with you. For me, it's one of the most creative, sonically interesting albums of the decade. It also produced several top 20 hits.


Sorry not impressed and a boring listen. Having Top 20 hits doesn't mean anything regarding quality otherwise every autotune rapper would be a musical genius.

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Reply #28 posted 11/26/25 9:47am

ludwig

Vibrator was one of the best albums of the nineties. Amazing stuff.

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nxx

I'd like to nominate JorisE73 to please find another thread to go be grumpy on, some of us love these albums and you seem to be talking out of your arse

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