Thanks to Vannormal, I was able to see it. Not that bad, but not that good either. It doesn't look 4K to me, and at times the live footage reminds me of an amateur who has colourised black and white film.

I have my comments on the video :

Too amateurish.

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Come on, opening and closing an LP cover?

A lady in a cheap cloud suit (not well fitting) bustin' her booty?

The low-key movements to bring alive the album cover figures...

How hard is it to make that better.

Having their mouths moved by low-key programming, yeah one can say it's 1985-ish style. Really?

Old tv sets...

The live material looks unpolished, even the colours are not made brighter.

Prince's paisley costume on a manequin and his shoes and ruffles shirt close ups?

Studio equiment, like a fLoating Linn drum machine above a bath tub?

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The only fun thing, it brings back memories, and takes us back in time.

And the fact we get so little, it makes us feel happy to get at least something.

But it's all so thin and little.

Couldve been done better with AI. Used in the right way.

Like Bart says, no (end) credits even, only 'Prince and The Revolution'. Which isn't completely true concerning the video production result.

Anyway, imo of course.

Vannormal said:

rap said:

Thanks to Vannormal, I was able to see it. Not that bad, but not that good either. It doesn't look 4K to me, and at times the live footage reminds me of an amateur who has colourised black and white film.

Nevermind, I thought they were talking about the Zenith Pop Life sstream.

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ShellyMcG said:

Vannormal said:

I have my comments on the video :

Too amateurish.

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Come on, opening and closing an LP cover?

A lady in a cheap cloud suit (not well fitting) bustin' her booty?

The low-key movements to bring alive the album cover figures...

How hard is it to make that better.

Having their mouths moved by low-key programming, yeah one can say it's 1985-ish style. Really?

Old tv sets...

The live material looks unpolished, even the colours are not made brighter.

Prince's paisley costume on a manequin and his shoes and ruffles shirt close ups?

Studio equiment, like a fLoating Linn drum machine above a bath tub?

-

The only fun thing, it brings back memories, and takes us back in time.

And the fact we get so little, it makes us feel happy to get at least something.

But it's all so thin and little.

Couldve been done better with AI. Used in the right way.

Like Bart says, no (end) credits even, only 'Prince and The Revolution'. Which isn't completely true concerning the video production result.

Anyway, imo of course.

Maybe they removed the credits for the video to protect the guy who made it from facing criticism online because they knew it was a crap video. But, as crap as it is,.at least it's not A.I. Because then it would have been crap AND soulless.

I think some bits of it definitely are made with AI.
In fairness, I think most ordinary folk can no longer tell.

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nxx said:

Ramzoo said:

Wait a minute...in the "Pop Life" video, there are snippets of the First Avenue 86' gig. I never saw "Pop Life" pro shot (from the audience : yes) from the Zénith (my first concert by the way).

When the estate video was posted to only the US someone else streamed the remixed and remastered Pop Life from Zenith 86 on a 'members only' Facebook group and small Discord servers with only european old schoolers, until yesterday, it was taken down an hour before the estate video started to show up outside of the US.

ShellyMcG said:

nxx said:

I think some bits of it definitely are made with AI.
In fairness, I think most ordinary folk can no longer tell.

[Edited 12/2/25 10:16am]

You can always tell when they use AI humans. They always look fucking weird. Have you seen what they've done with the Christmas Coke ad? It's an abomination. Really horrific stuff. They should be ashamed of themselves for that atrocity. I'm boycotting Coca Cola because of it* *I never drink Coca Cola or any of their products anyway, so it's an easy boycott

Haha yeah that stuff is super uncanny looking, so bad!
But for stylised stuff like the ATWIAD artwork and the Pop Life video, there are loads of areas where I think AI was used in a way you'd barely notice. It's really going that way, I work in that field so I have a bit of an eye for it

happyshopper said:

Probably worth keeping in mind that even Prince himself wasn’t good at videos! Mostly just performing the song with the band, with various stages or backdrops. He rarely did anything clever of conceptual. (Kiss and I Wish U Heaven are probably the exception, and they’re still basically him just singing it, just with a good Director!)

I always thought the single shot video for Dolphin was pretty cool.
https://www.youtube.com/w...fSA0mS8jEY

nxx said:

AGI will replace everyone, anyway. Andrej Karpathy says in 10 years. Ilya Sutskever says in 5-20 years. Things will get crazy, believe me.

bozojones said:

Probably can't be any worse than the "Holly Rock" animated video from several years back. though with this current estate, who knows

I loved the Holly Rock video!!

I like it!

There should have been two videos released last week.

1) a lyric video (all the cool kids are doin' it dontcha know?) and use all the album cover animation for it; make it cutsie or whatever but just let it be that animation and the lyrics (think of all the colors and fonts to use).

2) use that one Parade show in the video either as a live cut; OR compile "Pop Life" from different Parade shows and overdub with the album version (or at least one good take from the tour that has good audio). There has to be good audio and video - enough of both - to make a great live video of some sort for the song.

But Spicer & McMillian thought eh - let's fuck it up in a bad way and hype it.

TrivialPursuit said:

Didn't McMillan swindle Sharon and Norrine out of their share of the estate?

olb99 said:

AGI will replace everyone, anyway. Andrej Karpathy says in 10 years. Ilya Sutskever says in 5-20 years. Things will get crazy, believe me.

First, don't believe the hype from the sociopaths in Silicon Valley.
LLMs are not what they claimed to be, and I used them daily for work.
AI Agents are full of gigantic security holes, which explains the abysmal number of implementation in production environments.
Everyone tests them, no one adopts them, except for stupid soulless bots.

Second, the societal impacts are already showing (suicides, people using it as a companion, mafia using it to scam everyone and everything), and it still spits out lots of garbage and hallucinations.

The minute economy collapses because of massive layoffs, you'll see a gigantic public backlash and finally long due regulations to this atrocity.

Yes, 3 more years of the Orange Turd is a long time to go, but don't underestimate the mass of US voters who already feel betrayed. 3 more years of corruption and self-enrichment will in the end hit them like a boomerang.

This video is a stinky turd.
This is beyond sabotage.

What a sad state of affairs that Prince's legacy fell in the hands of these incompetent, stupid people.
Prince's audience will never expand beyond us old timers fans and true music lovers, but that's the way it is.

BonnieC said:

olb99 said:

AGI will replace everyone, anyway. Andrej Karpathy says in 10 years. Ilya Sutskever says in 5-20 years. Things will get crazy, believe me.

First, don't believe the hype from the sociopaths in Silicon Valley.
LLMs are not what they claimed to be, and I used them daily for work.
AI Agents are full of gigantic security holes, which explains the abysmal number of implementation in production environments.
Everyone tests them, no one adopts them, except for stupid soulless bots.

Second, the societal impacts are already showing (suicides, people using it as a companion, mafia using it to scam everyone and everything), and it still spits out lots of garbage and hallucinations.

The minute economy collapses because of massive layoffs, you'll see a gigantic public backlash and finally long due regulations to this atrocity.

Yes, 3 more years of the Orange Turd is a long time to go, but don't underestimate the mass of US voters who already feel betrayed. 3 more years of corruption and self-enrichment will in the end hit them like a boomerang.

I don't think people know or understand that these commercial A.I.'s were arouind 10 years ago and the devs have a 10 year headstart from us lowly users and are using A.I. versions much more advanced than what is currently out there.

BonnieC said:

olb99 said:

AGI will replace everyone, anyway. Andrej Karpathy says in 10 years. Ilya Sutskever says in 5-20 years. Things will get crazy, believe me.

First, don't believe the hype from the sociopaths in Silicon Valley.

My point of view has nothing to do with hype, Musk and others being mentally ill, the AI bubble, or the current US president.

Actually, my opinion was more or less the same 20-25 years ago.

You sound like a smart person. Please (please!) look beyond the hype and the politics. You'll see that there's cause for concern. And that there is, indeed, no reason why artificial general intelligence (AGI) won't be developed in the next few decades.

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olb99 said:

BonnieC said:

First, don't believe the hype from the sociopaths in Silicon Valley.

My point of view has nothing to do with hype, Musk and others being mentally ill, the AI bubble, or the current US president.

Actually, my opinion was more or less the same 20-25 years ago.

You sound like a smart person. Please (please!) look beyond the hype and the politics. You'll see that there's cause for concern. And that there is, indeed, no reason why artificial general intelligence (AGI) won't be developed in the next few decades.

[Edited 12/10/25 8:01am]

Of course there's cause of concern.

What I'm saying is that everyone seems to act like all the people are sheeps happy to be driven to the slaughterhouse.

After 15 years of social networks, all praticians are ringing the alarm. Depression in youth is through the roof, everyone's blood is poisoned, America doesn't know what to do with themselves now that their only reason to live, consuming, is slowly being taken away from them. They look around and there is no community left to fall back on, only the rat race.

I cannot wait for all the influencers be replaced by AI. Finally all these bozos are going to be ejected from the Matrix and will have to go back to the real life only to realize that what makes it precious has been stolen from them. They will have to face a long due introspection.

Yes, there are still major crises to go through, but frugality will be a blessing, not a curse. And the minute a Skynet-like accident happens, the whole world is going to backpedal on this smoke and mirrors promises of a better life through technology.

And there is, indeed, a lot of reasons why AGI won't be developed in the next few decades: people are going to claim back fresh water and energy for their own lives. Ecosystems are going to collapse and entire crops will be lost. Priorites will shift to the bottom of Maslow's pyramid. Most of all, people are going to claim back their own sanity of body and mind.


As for this pathetic video, it is a symptom of how commodification kills any spark of true creativity. This shit will last until people finally get tired of being tired, sick of getting sick.

All empires fall, this is a constant in history. When truth will be indistinguishable from fakeness, there will be a massive hunger for the former, and all of this hubris will only remain in history books as major waste of resources and time.

What I still find unbelievable is the very sparse use of live video, not even restored or cleaned, or polished.

While there must be tons of live video, rehearsals, etc.

How much fun would it be, if they made a video only of (cut up) private footage?

Just for this official release.

Less than 4 minutes of never before seen material, how hard can it be?

Will it cost a shitload of fucking fortune?

Absolutely not.

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NO MORE ANIMATED VIDEOS PLEASE!

We can make it ourselves, and even far better.

Look at Sinnik's animated vids on YT for example.

Even far more interesting too.

JorisE73 said:

BonnieC said:

And there is, indeed, a lot of reasons why AGI won't be developed in the next few decades: people are going to claim back fresh water and energy for their own lives.

That's not "a lot of reasons". That's one single argument and not a particularly good one, in my opinion. Think about it this way: a human brain consumes about 20 watts of power. We're currently using overly-complex AI models that need a lot of power (and water and non-renewable resources, etc.). It won't always be so.

ShellyMcG said:

JorisE73 said:

I don't think people know or understand that these commercial A.I.'s were arouind 10 years ago and the devs have a 10 year headstart from us lowly users and are using A.I. versions much more advanced than what is currently out there.

Not saying you're wrong but look at that new AI Coke ad. You can tell it's AI from a mile off. Nothing about it looks in any way natural and if this is the results from a company that has had a 10 year headstart then I'm even less impressed than I was before. And I didn't even think that was possible.

I'm talking about tech businesses using there in-house verisons of A.I. that's a decadde ahead and unrestricted. Not talkig about the nonsense commercial A.I. versiojns of it that some coke company or any other commercial company uses.