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Thread started 10/03/25 5:55pm

MattyJam

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The most underrated Prince single of all time is....

Watch this performance - his last ever on Top of the Pops, and tell me the guy wasn't just oozing utter coolness from every pour:

https://www.youtube.com/w...xI6grS5igp

[Edited 10/3/25 17:59pm]

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Reply #1 posted 10/03/25 7:53pm

FJODOR

on record, yes, definitely the most underrated single post 80's.

but live, it always felt awkward and stifled. the performances he
did for it on the promo tour are hard to watch and boring. they
make me wish the song was over, when in fact, I consider it one
of the best songs on Rave, althought that isn't saying much razz

it's one of the few songs of his that actually got worse whenever
he performed it.

but yes yes yes, the song itself, especially the album version, is
a superb song and I never quite understood why people seem to
have it so much. and those that don't hate it just don't rate it at
all, it seems.

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Reply #2 posted 10/03/25 8:55pm

FrankieCoco1

Arms of Orion fits into this category too. Hated it when released but has seriously grown on me in the last few years.
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #3 posted 10/03/25 9:14pm

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^^that performance is lip-synced wretchedness...everybody knows that 'pink cashmere' is the most underrated single of all time, anyhow...
[Edited 10/3/25 21:15pm]
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Reply #4 posted 10/03/25 11:09pm

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peedub said:

^^that performance is lip-synced wretchedness...everybody knows that 'pink cashmere' is the most underrated single of all time, anyhow...
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Absolutely!
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Reply #5 posted 10/04/25 2:18am

MattyJam

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peedub said:

^^that performance is lip-synced wretchedness.....


Maybe so, but the band is live and man are they tight. That horn arrangement is superb.
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Reply #6 posted 10/04/25 2:20pm

andrewm7new

I would actually rate “U make my sun shine” in this category

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Reply #7 posted 10/05/25 7:16am

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MattyJam said:

Watch this performance - his last ever on Top of the Pops, and tell me the guy wasn't just oozing utter coolness from every pour:



https://www.youtube.com/w...xI6grS5igp


[Edited 10/3/25 17:59pm]



The Jason Nevins remix got so much radio play here in Liverpool and even heard it in the clubs a bit, I thought it was going to be a hit.
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Reply #8 posted 10/05/25 8:46am

MattyJam

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dodger07 said:

MattyJam said:

Watch this performance - his last ever on Top of the Pops, and tell me the guy wasn't just oozing utter coolness from every pour:

https://www.youtube.com/w...xI6grS5igp

[Edited 10/3/25 17:59pm]

The Jason Nevins remix got so much radio play here in Liverpool and even heard it in the clubs a bit, I thought it was going to be a hit.

It got a tonne of airplay at the time. Many people don't realise the CD single had too many tracks and went against chart rules in the UK. The chart position it did reach over here was solely based on import sales alone.


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Reply #9 posted 10/05/25 9:15am

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One Song.

Not THE best, but the most underrated.

Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3.

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Reply #10 posted 10/05/25 12:38pm

dodger07

MattyJam said:



dodger07 said:


MattyJam said:

Watch this performance - his last ever on Top of the Pops, and tell me the guy wasn't just oozing utter coolness from every pour:



https://www.youtube.com/w...xI6grS5igp



[Edited 10/3/25 17:59pm]



The Jason Nevins remix got so much radio play here in Liverpool and even heard it in the clubs a bit, I thought it was going to be a hit.


It got a tonne of airplay at the time. Many people don't realise the CD single had too many tracks and went against chart rules in the UK. The chart position it did reach over here was solely based on import sales alone.




Yes, that and the video being delayed after single release
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Reply #11 posted 10/05/25 2:18pm

homesquid

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"Black Sweat"

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Reply #12 posted 10/05/25 4:32pm

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His most underrated single ever was "Pop Life".

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It reached the top 10 in lots of markets (#7 here in the US), yet despite being a decent hit, it was left off of "The Hits".

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Reply #13 posted 10/05/25 7:11pm

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MattyJam said:

Watch this performance - his last ever on Top of the Pops, and tell me the guy wasn't just oozing utter coolness from every pour:

https://www.youtube.com/w...xI6grS5igp

[Edited 10/3/25 17:59pm]


The entire album, including this single and every other aspect involved in its promotion, was such a contrivance that it was never going to be anything other than what it was. So far off the mark, that Prince himself felt the need to try and correct it by releasing a different version of Rave shortly afterward.

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Reply #14 posted 10/06/25 10:42am

Vannormal

Never liked it all that much.

For me, it's the slow verses, insidiously boring and with too many key changes,

sluggish, it sounds incomplete.

I find it a frustrating song although the chorus is quite well done.

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Prince looked stunning that year! uneblievably sexy and handsome. Great hairdo too.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #15 posted 10/06/25 9:38pm

pdiddy2011

I am definitely in the Pink Cashmere camp. I believe it is the most underrated because it is so often unmentioned, yet is an absolute gem. (Is there ANY song that sounds like it? I think it is in a class all by itself.)

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Reply #16 posted 10/06/25 9:43pm

pdiddy2011

Also, not a fan of The Greatest Romance Ever Sold, studio or live, though it seems to me that Prince was pretty proud of it.

I GREATLY prefer Somebody's Somebody, which to me seems like basically an alternate metaverse version of the same song.

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Reply #17 posted 10/07/25 9:43am

ShellyMcG

TheBigBang said:



MattyJam said:


Watch this performance - his last ever on Top of the Pops, and tell me the guy wasn't just oozing utter coolness from every pour:



https://www.youtube.com/w...xI6grS5igp



[Edited 10/3/25 17:59pm]




The entire album, including this single and every other aspect involved in its promotion, was such a contrivance that it was never going to be anything other than what it was. So far off the mark, that Prince himself felt the need to try and correct it by releasing a different version of Rave shortly afterward.



His alternate version of the album isn't really all that different though.
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Reply #18 posted 10/07/25 9:48am

ShellyMcG

pdiddy2011 said:

Also, not a fan of The Greatest Romance Ever Sold, studio or live, though it seems to me that Prince was pretty proud of it.

I GREATLY prefer Somebody's Somebody, which to me seems like basically an alternate metaverse version of the same song.



I love Somebody's Somebody. But I'm also a big fan of Greatest Romance. Prince was on another level in the 90s when it comes to ballads. Shhh (my favourite), Insatiable, Eye Hate U, etc. Man was on fire.
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Reply #19 posted 10/07/25 10:35am

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pdiddy2011 said:

Also, not a fan of The Greatest Romance Ever Sold, studio or live, though it seems to me that Prince was pretty proud of it.

I GREATLY prefer Somebody's Somebody, which to me seems like basically an alternate metaverse version of the same song.


Don't really get the comparison between Somebody's Somebody and TGRES. Sound nothing alike to my ears.
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Reply #20 posted 10/07/25 10:37am

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ShellyMcG said:

pdiddy2011 said:

Also, not a fan of The Greatest Romance Ever Sold, studio or live, though it seems to me that Prince was pretty proud of it.

I GREATLY prefer Somebody's Somebody, which to me seems like basically an alternate metaverse version of the same song.



I love Somebody's Somebody. But I'm also a big fan of Greatest Romance. Prince was on another level in the 90s when it comes to ballads. Shhh (my favourite), Insatiable, Eye Hate U, etc. Man was on fire.

Absolutely.

Add Man O War, Friend Lover Sister Mother/Wife, I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore, Damn U, Sweet Baby to that list. Just exquisite balladry.

I recall having a debate on an MJ board with someone who claimed they were a Prince fan, who said that Prince was terrible at writing ballads. I couldn't believe it, as to me, he was one of the finest balladeers of all time.
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'Letitgo'... the song that made me a fan.

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Reply #22 posted 10/07/25 8:14pm

ShellyMcG

MattyJam said:

ShellyMcG said:



I love Somebody's Somebody. But I'm also a big fan of Greatest Romance. Prince was on another level in the 90s when it comes to ballads. Shhh (my favourite), Insatiable, Eye Hate U, etc. Man was on fire.

Absolutely.

Add Man O War, Friend Lover Sister Mother/Wife, I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore, Damn U, Sweet Baby to that list. Just exquisite balladry.

I recall having a debate on an MJ board with someone who claimed they were a Prince fan, who said that Prince was terrible at writing ballads. I couldn't believe it, as to me, he was one of the finest balladeers of all time.
[Edited 10/7/25 10:38am]



I think MJ was fantastic at writing uptempo pop songs. I'd go as far as to say that I think he was probably the best at it. But I just can't take his ballads seriously at all. It's just not convincing. They don't do anything for me. The Lady In My Life and Break Of Dawn are two exceptions. Amazing songs. But for the most part, as good as MJ was at some things, he couldn't hold a candle to Prince when it came to romantic and/or sexual ballads. Then again, I don't think anybody else could either.
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pdiddy2011 said:

I am definitely in the Pink Cashmere camp. I believe it is the most underrated because it is so often unmentioned, yet is an absolute gem. (Is there ANY song that sounds like it? I think it is in a class all by itself.)

I wouldn't have thought of it, but I must agree. Pink Cashmere is THE shit. It was one of my fave Prince songs of all times as a teenager.

It was kind of a throwaway single, though. Peach was promoted, but I never, ever saw the Pink Cashmere MV play on French TV at the time (I actually only learned there was one years later).

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Reply #24 posted 10/08/25 12:23am

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databank said:



pdiddy2011 said:


I am definitely in the Pink Cashmere camp. I believe it is the most underrated because it is so often unmentioned, yet is an absolute gem. (Is there ANY song that sounds like it? I think it is in a class all by itself.)



I wouldn't have thought of it, but I must agree. Pink Cashmere is THE shit. It was one of my fave Prince songs of all times as a teenager.


It was kind of a throwaway single, though. Peach was promoted, but I never, ever saw the Pink Cashmere MV play on French TV at the time (I actually only learned there was one years later).



I knew it first time I heard it in my friend's GTI. That fucking hi-hat hypnotized me from jump. The rest is headphone bliss. Just prince having a night in the studio...
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Reply #25 posted 10/08/25 1:40pm

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peedub said:

databank said:



pdiddy2011 said:


I am definitely in the Pink Cashmere camp. I believe it is the most underrated because it is so often unmentioned, yet is an absolute gem. (Is there ANY song that sounds like it? I think it is in a class all by itself.)



I wouldn't have thought of it, but I must agree. Pink Cashmere is THE shit. It was one of my fave Prince songs of all times as a teenager.


It was kind of a throwaway single, though. Peach was promoted, but I never, ever saw the Pink Cashmere MV play on French TV at the time (I actually only learned there was one years later).



I knew it first time I heard it in my friend's GTI. That fucking hi-hat hypnotized me from jump. The rest is headphone bliss. Just prince having a night in the studio...


Make sure you stick that on your 200 disc CD changer lol
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ShellyMcG said:

peedub said:



I knew it first time I heard it in my friend's GTI. That fucking hi-hat hypnotized me from jump. The rest is headphone bliss. Just prince having a night in the studio...


Make sure you stick that on your 200 disc CD changer lol


You see? There's the rub. One of my favorite songs of all time, but it's only available on a hits compilation that I don't want in my changer... Maybe one day I'll splurge and buy the CD single and my 200 disc changer shuffle mode vibe can be nearer perfection.
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Reply #27 posted 10/10/25 11:00am

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peedub said:

ShellyMcG said:
Make sure you stick that on your 200 disc CD changer lol
You see? There's the rub. One of my favorite songs of all time, but it's only available on a hits compilation that I don't want in my changer... Maybe one day I'll splurge and buy the CD single and my 200 disc changer shuffle mode vibe can be nearer perfection.

You could add the Girl 6 soundtrack to your 2000 disc CD changer instead. I know it's still a compilation album, but at least then, you're also adding 'She Spoke 2 Me', 'Girl 6' & 'Don't Talk 2 Strangers' to the mix too.

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Reply #28 posted 10/10/25 11:57am

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GiggityGoo said:

His most underrated single ever was "Pop Life".

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It reached the top 10 in lots of markets (#7 here in the US), yet despite being a decent hit, it was left off of "The Hits".

It was not left off, it's the second track of the first disc of The Hits. wink

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Reply #29 posted 10/11/25 1:55pm

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rlittler81 said:

'Letitgo'... the song that made me a fan.

What was sad about that one is that it was one of Prince's most personal statements at the time, but the point he was trying to make went unnoticed for lack of promotion.

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