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Reply #210 posted 10/24/25 10:51pm

johnpiex

His mermaid siren singing in the middle of Dream is absolutely spellbinding.
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Reply #211 posted 10/25/25 12:35am

SoulAlive

rudeboy4711 said:

bizzie said:

It's all so depressing: we're nearing the tenth anniversary of Prince's death, and yet the early years of his career (1975-1982) largely remain an undocumented black hole except for some bootlegs from 30 years ago and a handful of tracks on recent SDEs.


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We have plenty of books and articles about 1983-1989 but there are still plenty of songs from this era we haven't heard or only in mediocre quality, and basically half of the Purple Rain album is still a mystery (surely there must be early demo/studio recordings for all those songs that were first recorded on 3 August 1983).


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Hopefully next year's Parade SDE will fill in some gaps, but considering the current estate is seemingly incapable of releasing something in proper quality with proper documentation...


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And then there's the fertile 1993-1995 era: will we ever get our hands on all those previously unreleased studio recordings and live recordings? All they've done for the 30th anniversary of TGE is show parts of some concert videos to people who've paid stupid money to visit Paisley Park.



Yep, hands down the most obscure era in terms of a substancial lack of circulating unreleased material is the Dirty Mind era. I don’t think I’ve even heard of any uncirculating DM outtakes being out there in the hands of a select few. We only know of a few song titles but that’s it! Given that some refer to DM as the first “true” Prince album and that we’re nearing its 50th anniversary, it’s baffling to me how there’s been almost close to nothing from that era other than Lisa, Rough, the Sister demos, and 3 live shows (2 of them in video).



I have to admit: early 80s Prince is my favorite.Those are the years that I love the most.Dirty Mind and Controversy deserve to be celebrated! Each album deserves a SDE.I’m tired of seeing that era being ignored.
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Reply #212 posted 10/25/25 12:35am

rockford

I like how he recycled the drum track from When 2 R In Love to build the Dream demo upon.
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Reply #213 posted 10/25/25 1:17am

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Omg, just started listening and I'm already vibing. music music music music

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Reply #214 posted 10/25/25 1:45am

fruitsalad

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This sounds great. It adds a lot of extra interest and prestige to what – for me – is one of the artist's less exciting albums.

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Reply #215 posted 10/25/25 2:34am

MIRvmn1

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51 Hours is so good smile
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Reply #216 posted 10/25/25 8:00am

Ramzoo

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rockford said:

I like how he recycled the drum track from When 2 R In Love to build the Dream demo upon.

Yes ! What about "Face 2 Face" / "Forever In My Life" ?
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Reply #217 posted 10/25/25 10:04am

flaton

olb99 said:



databank said:




olb99 said:


Depressing, baffling, disappointing, lazy, incompetent, etc. Many qualifiers apply to this situation/Estate. I’m not on Twitter/X. Have TTC reacted to the leak yet?


Who's TCC?


TTC = "those two cunts" = how Neversin once refered two McMillan/Spicer on Reddit.

[Edited 10/24/25 19:58pm]


😂 never heard this one. But that’s what I want to know also, how do they feel about all the hate they got for atwiad rerelease and all the love the leakers are getting
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Reply #218 posted 10/25/25 10:06am

dodger07

johnpiex said:

His mermaid siren singing in the middle of Dream is absolutely spellbinding.


Totally spellbinding.
Dream, With This Tear and Face 2 Face are quintessential Prince.
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Reply #219 posted 10/25/25 5:05pm

siim

"Rave Church Style" is best. Thou that "rock rock, rock the house!" vocal sample is annoying.
Sad he didn't comply proper gospel music album, all the gospel outtakes been good.


And for me "With This Tear" is really boring - cheesy, unimaginative, and lame instrumentation. That's from a guy who recorded ballads like "God", "I Love U In Me", "Condition of the Heart"...!?

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Reply #220 posted 10/25/25 5:17pm

NICKthebrick

Face to Face is really growing on me.

I love his vocal.
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Reply #221 posted 10/25/25 5:20pm

NICKthebrick

Is The Ryde Divine the same as what was previously released?

Shame it's not a Prince lead vocal version, great song.
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Reply #222 posted 10/25/25 6:40pm

boomshaka

With This Tear is gorgeous

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Reply #223 posted 10/25/25 6:49pm

antonb

I have been listening to this set a lot. I bloody love it. Barring the live show from The diamonds deluxe set. I much prefer these songs.I think because I have never really listened properly to the Tevin Campbell songs. So those have been an eye opener to me. I think this set has a great mix of different styles. And is highly entertaining.
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Reply #224 posted 10/25/25 8:43pm

FrankieCoco1

bizzie said:

It's all so depressing: we're nearing the tenth anniversary of Prince's death, and yet the early years of his career (1975-1982) largely remain an undocumented black hole except for some bootlegs from 30 years ago and a handful of tracks on recent SDEs.


.


We have plenty of books and articles about 1983-1989 but there are still plenty of songs from this era we haven't heard or only in mediocre quality, and basically half of the Purple Rain album is still a mystery (surely there must be early demo/studio recordings for all those songs that were first recorded on 3 August 1983).


.


Hopefully next year's Parade SDE will fill in some gaps, but considering the current estate is seemingly incapable of releasing something in proper quality with proper documentation...


.


And then there's the fertile 1993-1995 era: will we ever get our hands on all those previously unreleased studio recordings and live recordings? All they've done for the 30th anniversary of TGE is show parts of some concert videos to people who've paid stupid money to visit Paisley Park.



That pre-1983 should have/should be documented and explored. Partly because the people there at that time aren’t getting any younger, plus it’s essentially pre-fame. Duane Tudahl would be the first person in my mind to collate details for that period but seems to have chosen the post SOTT/1987+ era for his next project. Ever thought of writing a book about the era, Bizzie?
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #225 posted 10/25/25 8:58pm

FrankieCoco1

lustmealways said:

this is very, very likely the only new prince material anyone will be getting for at least another year, probably more, so folks should enjoy and savor.



I’m half way through my second listen and am really enjoying it. I agree with others that the sound quality isn’t like an official release but I’m used to the 80s bootlegs (Royal Jewels, remember that), so aren’t too fussed. The new jack swing middle stuff ain’t my bag but there are some quality tunes. With This Tear, Baby Doll, I like the ravey type tunes and the rehearsals. Glad to have these and would be happy to buy if properly released.
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #226 posted 10/25/25 9:34pm

bizzie

FrankieCoco1 said:


That pre-1983 should have/should be documented and explored. Partly because the people there at that time aren’t getting any younger, plus it’s essentially pre-fame. Duane Tudahl would be the first person in my mind to collate details for that period but seems to have chosen the post SOTT/1987+ era for his next project.

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AFAIK documentation on this era is scant. This is before he went to Sunset Sound (where there are work orders). This is when (presumably) did a lot of his own.

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So you'd need access to whatever is available in the vault, e.g. notes on tapes etc. Which the estate is keeping secret. In the past we've seen that band members etc. can bring up memories when confronted with names and dates and audio, so you'd need that to reconstruct an era where there is a lot of solo work by Prince where there were few people around.

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Hell, so far all we've heard about this era from the estate is a couple of random tracks and a guide saying there is an album where the tapes are partially destroyed due to age or bad conservation. IMHO the estate needs to allow people to go through whatever is in the archives from the pre-1983 era, and allow these people drag in band members and listen to recordings from that era and ask them about them.

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But considering that hasn't even happened with Purple Rain...

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Reply #227 posted 10/26/25 2:15am

Doozer

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I had never noticed that Uncle Sam uses the horn line from Dopamine Rush off Times Squared.
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Reply #228 posted 10/26/25 6:12am

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NICKthebrick said:

Is The Ryde Divine the same as what was previously released?

Shame it's not a Prince lead vocal version, great song.


If I remember right, not what was released, but was circulating. Although the old leak had the intro lopped off.
Screaming. Panting. Making Noise.
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Reply #229 posted 10/26/25 6:36am

andrewm7new

^also a bit bewildering that MPLS was left off, it was the a side wasn't it?

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Reply #230 posted 10/26/25 7:19am

NICKthebrick

Why is "In The Middle Of The Night" so short?

Surely there must be a longer version
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Reply #231 posted 10/26/25 7:30am

psyche2

andrewm7new said:

^also a bit bewildering that MPLS was left off, it was the a side wasn't it?

But that's on 1-800-New-Funk, isn't it ?

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Reply #232 posted 10/26/25 12:25pm

80spfantwp

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johnpiex said:

His mermaid siren singing in the middle of Dream is absolutely spellbinding.


I agree, an absolute gem. This is my most played track from this set.
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Reply #233 posted 10/26/25 12:57pm

happyshopper

Just a thought. Just throwing this out there… but, do we know for a fact that this was the definitive track list?
Could this be just a rough selection of tracks, for consideration for the project? Some choices seem a bit odd.
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Reply #234 posted 10/26/25 6:33pm

eduJ

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80spfantwp said:

johnpiex said:
His mermaid siren singing in the middle of Dream is absolutely spellbinding.
I agree, an absolute gem. This is my most played track from this set.

Me three biggrin

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Reply #235 posted 10/26/25 7:57pm

themanfromnept
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happyshopper said:

Just a thought. Just throwing this out there… but, do we know for a fact that this was the definitive track list? Could this be just a rough selection of tracks, for consideration for the project? Some choices seem a bit odd.

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Afaik the tracklist was shared after the Diamonds & Pearls SDE (or, I never see the complete list of Diamonds & Love outtakes). The list shared contains also unreleased songs from the Diamonds & Pearls period that have been replaced by the current Estate with other songs (for example I Hear Ur Voice replaced by Darkside) and other songs from O)+> era.

I really don't know if Diamonds & Love was ever pressed, or it remains a project until the split in two different project, so I don't know if the Diamonds & Pearls outtakes had a remaster process before the final release.

And afaik, we found photos of Love Symbol DE pressed in vynil, but I never see a photo of the Love Symbol SDE. I don't know if it exists or what unreleased songs from Diamonds & Love project have been chosen to be there.

So, the hypotesis that those outtakes leaked were a part of the raw selection for the Diamonds & Love project could make sense.

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But maybe someone here have a deeper knowledge of the Diamonds & Love history.

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Reply #236 posted 10/26/25 10:01pm

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Only got through half but tbh, a lot of this is quite awful lol. Just way, way, WAY too much tony m. And too many tracks that just stink of the parts of early 90s music I don't care for anymore. Cool to hear slightly diff versions of love 2tha 9s and three chains but I wouldn't buy this if it was for sale. I just don't get why they pursued a vault release for this era when there were more gems ten years earlier? Argh. So in one sense the estate was right maybe to hold off on this. OTOH, if you love this npg era you'd prob eat up outtakes from both these albums together so they missed an opportunity there.
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Reply #237 posted 10/26/25 11:08pm

FrankieCoco1

Doozer said:

I had never noticed that Uncle Sam uses the horn line from Dopamine Rush off Times Squared.


Yep, you can hear that. I’m also getting “Space” vibes from it too.
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Reply #238 posted 10/26/25 11:58pm

TrevorAyer

goodbye and baby doll were leaked in lossless .. the mp3s are a rough listen ... would be cool if the full lossless set made it out .. especially if the estate is never going to release any of these tracks

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Reply #239 posted 10/27/25 2:15am

CheckeredPast

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1000 Hugs and Kisses on repeat. Just beautiful. With This Tear too. Lots of fun tracks.
Come with me if you want to live.
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