. I have always said that combining these two albums in a single box set was ridiculous. Not in the least because it would mean they'd need to severely limit the live material: the Act I and Act II tour are very different and it would have been a crime to not include a recording from each. . Plus yeah, their insistence on also having everything on vinyl. | |
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. Yeah, how dare they, I mean it's not like the estate has released next to nothing in the past year, or that their next release doesn't contain a single second of unreleased music. | |
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. Yeah, how dare they, I mean it's not like the estate has released next to nothing in the past year, or that their next release doesn't contain a single second of unreleased music. He meant to say assured, not assumed. | |
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Yes, Matthieu worked with the Estate on the "Diamonds and Love" project, but whatever he meant, I'm not sure it's very relevant in 2025. He hasn't worked with the Estate in years, so I'm pretty sure he's not the best person to know what the current Estate's plans are. Plus, even if he knew anything, he wouldn't be legally allowed to say anything of substance. | |
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I think he meant that not all Vault tracks from that period were included in the set. I think the leak included all the tracks included on the Diamonds And Love set. [Edited 10/24/25 10:23am] | |
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It's all so depressing: we're nearing the tenth anniversary of Prince's death, and yet the early years of his career (1975-1982) largely remain an undocumented black hole except for some bootlegs from 30 years ago and a handful of tracks on recent SDEs. . We have plenty of books and articles about 1983-1989 but there are still plenty of songs from this era we haven't heard or only in mediocre quality, and basically half of the Purple Rain album is still a mystery (surely there must be early demo/studio recordings for all those songs that were first recorded on 3 August 1983). . Hopefully next year's Parade SDE will fill in some gaps, but considering the current estate is seemingly incapable of releasing something in proper quality with proper documentation... . And then there's the fertile 1993-1995 era: will we ever get our hands on all those previously unreleased studio recordings and live recordings? All they've done for the 30th anniversary of TGE is show parts of some concert videos to people who've paid stupid money to visit Paisley Park. | |
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I think he meant that not all Vault tracks from that period were included in the set. I think the leak included all the tracks included on the Diamonds And Love set. [Edited 10/24/25 10:23am] Yeah, we know some of the leaked tracks are WIP or incomplete versions, so we know other versions of those songs exist. And then we have other songs from the same period that weren’t included, for some mysterious reason. As I said his reply is interesting and irrelevant at the same time. | |
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Does anyone else think here is something very slightly off with the sound on some of the tracks? The 1000 Hugs backgrounds do not sound as sharp as they should....some of it sounds just slightly lo fi.
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bizzie said: It's all so depressing Depressing, baffling, disappointing, lazy, incompetent, etc. Many qualifiers apply to this situation/Estate. I’m not on Twitter/X. Have TTC reacted to the leak yet? | |
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I just feel the need to thank whoever was responsible for making these tracks available.I am truly grateful.Each one of these tracks adds to my appreciation of Prince and has brought light to my world. | |
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No problem, we're cool ![]() I think I made it clear that I'm in no position to share anything, so hopefully no one will harrass me Anyway, as I said, I have very few things left that didn't leak since I got them, so there's no cause for anyone to get very excited about it. Smart. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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JoeyCococo said: Does anyone else think here is something very slightly off with the sound on some of the tracks? The 1000 Hugs backgrounds do not sound as sharp as they should....some of it sounds just slightly lo fi.
Most of these leaked songs sound to me as rehearsals. Not studio recordings. Am I wrong? 3 Chains O Gold…. Exactly at 2:20, you clearly hear a mistake. [Edited 10/24/25 13:43pm] "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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bizzie said: It's all so depressing: we're nearing the tenth anniversary of Prince's death, and yet the early years of his career (1975-1982) largely remain an undocumented black hole except for some bootlegs from 30 years ago and a handful of tracks on recent SDEs. . We have plenty of books and articles about 1983-1989 but there are still plenty of songs from this era we haven't heard or only in mediocre quality, and basically half of the Purple Rain album is still a mystery (surely there must be early demo/studio recordings for all those songs that were first recorded on 3 August 1983). . Hopefully next year's Parade SDE will fill in some gaps, but considering the current estate is seemingly incapable of releasing something in proper quality with proper documentation... . And then there's the fertile 1993-1995 era: will we ever get our hands on all those previously unreleased studio recordings and live recordings? All they've done for the 30th anniversary of TGE is show parts of some concert videos to people who've paid stupid money to visit Paisley Park. Fully agree. But yeah. What can we do about it? PR musical focus… merch… changing teams… no communication. I guess there is justvlittlz to nothing to communicate about. And probably one or two people are working on that gigantic archive. We don’t even know if or who they are. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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^And I think that's his point - to remain relevant and powerful and in the know, without giving anything away. [Edited 10/24/25 14:32pm] | |
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Now this is something I would really like to have.
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bizzie said: It's all so depressing: we're nearing the tenth anniversary of Prince's death, and yet the early years of his career (1975-1982) largely remain an undocumented black hole except for some bootlegs from 30 years ago and a handful of tracks on recent SDEs. . We have plenty of books and articles about 1983-1989 but there are still plenty of songs from this era we haven't heard or only in mediocre quality, and basically half of the Purple Rain album is still a mystery (surely there must be early demo/studio recordings for all those songs that were first recorded on 3 August 1983). . Hopefully next year's Parade SDE will fill in some gaps, but considering the current estate is seemingly incapable of releasing something in proper quality with proper documentation... . And then there's the fertile 1993-1995 era: will we ever get our hands on all those previously unreleased studio recordings and live recordings? All they've done for the 30th anniversary of TGE is show parts of some concert videos to people who've paid stupid money to visit Paisley Park. Yeah it is sad. The other day i heard Nightingale for the first time, what is that, from like 1977? It’s beautiful. So much stuff still to be heard. PIPS! Eurgh... | |
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Good god, some of this is hideous. Lol. Fun in a way but also just awful. This version of the flow is BAD
And the church rave, it's cool but sounds like a bad remix of trust. [Edited 10/24/25 17:44pm] | |
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Rave is too full. Between all the extra layers of soundcake I really would like to hear the fundament. Ich bin bei der Neue Kraft Bewegung | |
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With your tagname... how does superhero land
Ich bin bei der Neue Kraft Bewegung | |
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I agree. So far I'm not that impressed and think there was probably a reason this material didn't get the green light. But clearly i'm the minority, since I liked the D&P SDE material, which has been trashed by others. Still cool to hear, but nothing so far has made me sit up like "Open Book" or "Thunder Ballet." | |
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Who's TCC? A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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this is very, very likely the only new prince material anyone will be getting for at least another year, probably more, so folks should enjoy and savor. | |
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said: Good god, some of this is hideous. Lol. Fun in a way but also just awful. This version of the flow is BAD
And the church rave, it's cool but sounds like a bad remix of trust. [Edited 10/24/25 17:44pm] It depends what you're expecting to get out of it. Personally I'm still really liking "Face to face". The Sample from "Forever in my life", the chorus that would be reworked into "Space", is fascinating. Moreso when you look at the IWBYL sample in MNIP. Seems like a goal of was in some capacity to "look back"... Or perhaps they were songs Mayte had a particular fondness for?
The song itself isn't particularly special, but it is super interesting. Prince giving a by the numbers vocal performance (understandable if he was just "getting something down") over a pre-recorded beat is never going to be as interesting as a fully worked song/live studio recording or rehearsal where he's being chatty/cheeky. I think there's plenty on here that's worth repeated listens. Though I'm curious how much of this material was ever actually considered for inclusion on the album. Genuine outtakes Vs unreleased songs that were simply recorded around the same time. Plenty here to keep me entertained though. [Edited 10/24/25 19:48pm] | |
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Good question | |
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In fairness I still need to hear it all. It's nice to hear I hear your voice in better quality. | |
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We get new leaks out of the clear blue and folks still aren't satisfied! I would buy it if it ever comes out, but right now I'm more than happy to have these new songs, good or not so good. I'm not expecting out of thousands of songs created, that Prince is going to have 1000 hits. Some are good and some are mid, but it is still Prince and his art. One thing about Prince's music that I have noticed- it has the ability to absolutely grow on ya. There are songs that I completely disliked at 1st listen, but years later I've completely 360ed on that. Also, there's a few songs that I've wanted to get my hands on for decades that are among this leak, and for that alone, I'm happy. We'll eventually get more tunes but for right now it's cool because at this time last week some of us didn't even know that some of this stuff even existed! | |
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bizzie said: It's all so depressing: we're nearing the tenth anniversary of Prince's death, and yet the early years of his career (1975-1982) largely remain an undocumented black hole except for some bootlegs from 30 years ago and a handful of tracks on recent SDEs. . We have plenty of books and articles about 1983-1989 but there are still plenty of songs from this era we haven't heard or only in mediocre quality, and basically half of the Purple Rain album is still a mystery (surely there must be early demo/studio recordings for all those songs that were first recorded on 3 August 1983). . Hopefully next year's Parade SDE will fill in some gaps, but considering the current estate is seemingly incapable of releasing something in proper quality with proper documentation... . And then there's the fertile 1993-1995 era: will we ever get our hands on all those previously unreleased studio recordings and live recordings? All they've done for the 30th anniversary of TGE is show parts of some concert videos to people who've paid stupid money to visit Paisley Park. Yep, hands down the most obscure era in terms of a substancial lack of circulating unreleased material is the Dirty Mind era. I don’t think I’ve even heard of any uncirculating DM outtakes being out there in the hands of a select few. We only know of a few song titles but that’s it! Given that some refer to DM as the first “true” Prince album and that we’re nearing its 50th anniversary, it’s baffling to me how there’s been almost close to nothing from that era other than Lisa, Rough, the Sister demos, and 3 live shows (2 of them in video). [Edited 10/24/25 21:14pm] | |
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JoeyCococo said: Does anyone else think here is something very slightly off with the sound on some of the tracks? The 1000 Hugs backgrounds do not sound as sharp as they should....some of it sounds just slightly lo fi.
1000 Hugs is def from tape…no way it is from the masters. | |
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