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Reply #30 posted 10/22/25 7:27am

ShellyMcG

antonb said:

Loving it too. Better than the diamond and pearls deluxe.Shameful that this stuff is sitting there. Get a website open and sell this stuff to the fans. We are literally dying out! To the collectors who have anything not yet released. Please just leak it. No point in waiting for the estate ,to see whatever they do or don’t do! It’s time! Again a big thank you whoever let this out


Exactly. If they didn't want to release it physically for whatever reason then they could have at least sold the album digitally or something. As it is, they've just lost out on a whole lot of potential sales and they really have nobody to blame but themselves.
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Reply #31 posted 10/22/25 7:35am

thenewfunkystu
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antonb said:

Loving it too. Better than the diamond and pearls deluxe.Shameful that this stuff is sitting there. Get a website open and sell this stuff to the fans. We are literally dying out! To the collectors who have anything not yet released. Please just leak it. No point in waiting for the estate ,to see whatever they do or don’t do! It’s time! Again a big thank you whoever let this out


Exactly. Well said. It's unbelievable that the Estate can't manage to get things like this released. I'm more or less completely hopeless about their so-called release "strategy."

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Reply #32 posted 10/22/25 7:39am

SoulAlive

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A BIG thank you to the man (or woman) who shared the songs. And a BIG fuck off to the Estate to be unable to sell this.

I totally agree biggrin We obviously can't depend on the estate to give us what we really want.

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Reply #33 posted 10/22/25 8:00am

JorisE73

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Definitive version of 1,000 hugs & kisses


Sadly it's not. the full, completed and definitive version is even longer and doesn't have the annoying click track on it like on this one. This seems to be a work in progress vwersion.

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Reply #34 posted 10/22/25 8:06am

olb99

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SoulAlive said:

I totally agree biggrin We obviously can't depend on the estate to give us what we really want.


On the other hand, now that those tracks are out, don't expect other leaks. They were compiled by the previous Estate. And they were circulating among some fans for more than a year.

[Edited 10/22/25 8:09am]

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Reply #35 posted 10/22/25 8:15am

antonb

Listening to this kinda reminds me of the days of finding a boot at a record fair! Taking it home and being amazed that some of this stuff exists.Part of the reason I’m enjoying so much. Problem is I wanna hear em in great quality now! So greedy!
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Reply #36 posted 10/22/25 8:20am

MIRvmn1

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ShellyMcG said:

antonb said:

Loving it too. Better than the diamond and pearls deluxe.Shameful that this stuff is sitting there. Get a website open and sell this stuff to the fans. We are literally dying out! To the collectors who have anything not yet released. Please just leak it. No point in waiting for the estate ,to see whatever they do or don’t do! It’s time! Again a big thank you whoever let this out


Exactly. If they didn't want to release it physically for whatever reason then they could have at least sold the album digitally or something. As it is, they've just lost out on a whole lot of potential sales and they really have nobody to blame but themselves.

I remember 8 songs leaking a few months before Diamonds and Pearls SDE was released. I hope this new leak means we might get an official release next year, maybe with 10 or more additional unreleased tracks. But I don’t trust the estate, so I’m keeping my expectations low.
I’m really glad this leaked just in case we might get nothing from the estate.
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Reply #37 posted 10/22/25 8:32am

FJODOR

wasn't |I Wonder| part of this set at some point?

agreed tho, with everyone else who said I would still, gladly, buy this from the estate,
even if it's just digital files on a website, I like physical media but I don't NEED it.

if they would just polish up these tracks a bit more, perhaps swap some of the more
work in progress versions for more definitive ones and add a couple of tracks like for
instance "I Wonder", "Player", "Qualified", i'm sure they'd not lose out due to this now
being leaked, if anything it's a nice promo for if they would release better sounding
files and versions.

but i'm quite sure we will suffer for this leak in the long run, sadly, since they will now
find a way to make this all about not releasing anything soon.

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Reply #38 posted 10/22/25 8:53am

Tokyo2

Q - does this version of Love 2 The 9's have a point of difference? I haven't heard the majority of these trax so I'm intrigued. Any gems?

Agree with the previous comments about I Wonder also...

Meanwhile The Estate is pouring $25m into the development of their musical at present, that's where the commericial focus is (sadly). They'll be hoping for lucrative / extended runs in cities like London & NY I suspect.

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Reply #39 posted 10/22/25 9:01am

FJODOR

Tokyo2 said:

Q - does this version of Love 2 The 9's have a point of difference? I haven't heard the majority of these trax so I'm intrigued. Any gems?

Agree with the previous comments about I Wonder also...

Meanwhile The Estate is pouring $25m into the development of their musical at present, that's where the commericial focus is (sadly). They'll be hoping for lucrative / extended runs in cities like London & NY I suspect.

T


I still find it amazing that they won't release the Purple Rain SDE, despite having the musical
as a great way to promote it a bit more. Instead a random reissue of ATWIAD with no extras.

Having said that, I doubt this musical will be much of promotion for anything, judging from the
first set of preliminary reviews.

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Reply #40 posted 10/22/25 9:29am

FJODOR

FJODOR said:

wasn't |I Wonder| part of this set at some point?

agreed tho, with everyone else who said I would still, gladly, buy this from the estate,
even if it's just digital files on a website, I like physical media but I don't NEED it.

if they would just polish up these tracks a bit more, perhaps swap some of the more
work in progress versions for more definitive ones and add a couple of tracks like for
instance "I Wonder", "Player", "Qualified", i'm sure they'd not lose out due to this now
being leaked, if anything it's a nice promo for if they would release better sounding
files and versions.

but i'm quite sure we will suffer for this leak in the long run, sadly, since they will now
find a way to make this all about not releasing anything soon.


in fact, instead of throwing a huge fit, which is what will likely happen, the people in charge
of officially releasing music could now test the waters in an ultimate way by putting all of it
online in this supposed "new npgmc" and see what happens.

i'm quite sure that of the 800 or so people who downloaded this set by now, about 90% are
willing and able and jumping at the bit to buy them in better quality with some extra's or a
few more developed versions.

that plus all the people, the majority of prince fans I would say, who don't crawl the gutters
of the internet for leaks.

it would be a good way to test how much impact a leak like this has on potential future sales
and at the same time a nice way to test a new npgmc and roll out some sort of new store.

in the end it would be nice if this leak just causes some movement somewhere and we can
go forward with a model that works for everyone.

i'm just not understanding why there is no new music from the estate.

do they really seriously think that the majority of fans is content and happy with the single
"free (acoustic)" that they put on streaming?

it's time to throw some stuff at the wall to see what works instead of continuing to focus on
small reprints on coloured lp. obviously that works somewhat for them but why not test the
waters for bigger and more substantial ways of getting the music out there?

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Reply #41 posted 10/22/25 9:33am

Vannormal

Everyone should hear them.

But it's the weakest collection of outtakes i heard so far.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #42 posted 10/22/25 9:47am

FJODOR

"There" is so beautiful.

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Reply #43 posted 10/22/25 9:52am

ShellyMcG

MIRvmn1 said:

ShellyMcG said:



Exactly. If they didn't want to release it physically for whatever reason then they could have at least sold the album digitally or something. As it is, they've just lost out on a whole lot of potential sales and they really have nobody to blame but themselves.

I remember 8 songs leaking a few months before Diamonds and Pearls SDE was released. I hope this new leak means we might get an official release next year, maybe with 10 or more additional unreleased tracks. But I don’t trust the estate, so I’m keeping my expectations low.
I’m really glad this leaked just in case we might get nothing from the estate.


I have no faith in the estate. Releasing music is obviously not a priority for them. They're more interested in musicals and bed sheets and candles and stuff. If it wasn't for leaks like this (and the very, VERY generous people who put me on to them) then I wouldn't have access to any of the vault material.
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Reply #44 posted 10/22/25 9:54am

ShellyMcG

Vannormal said:

Everyone should hear them.


But it's the weakest collection of outtakes i heard so far.



Anything is better than nothing.
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Reply #45 posted 10/22/25 9:57am

Vannormal

olb99 said:

SoulAlive said:

I totally agree biggrin We obviously can't depend on the estate to give us what we really want.


On the other hand, now that those tracks are out, don't expect other leaks. They were compiled by the previous Estate. And they were circulating among some fans for more than a year.

[Edited 10/22/25 8:09am]

...who knows, maybe we get the Parade SDE compiled then at some point in the future.

Never say never.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #46 posted 10/22/25 10:00am

antonb

I disagree, I think this set is better than the Diamonds set. Only my opinion ofcourse. Maybe if it was in better quality people would like it more.I have been listening to it all morning so far at work. Very enjoyable to me.
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Reply #47 posted 10/22/25 10:19am

MIRvmn1

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ShellyMcG said:

MIRvmn1 said:


I remember 8 songs leaking a few months before Diamonds and Pearls SDE was released. I hope this new leak means we might get an official release next year, maybe with 10 or more additional unreleased tracks. But I don’t trust the estate, so I’m keeping my expectations low.
I’m really glad this leaked just in case we might get nothing from the estate.


I have no faith in the estate. Releasing music is obviously not a priority for them. They're more interested in musicals and bed sheets and candles and stuff. If it wasn't for leaks like this (and the very, VERY generous people who put me on to them) then I wouldn't have access to any of the vault material.

Yes, they freed the vault and yet there's not a single outtake on ATWAID Deluxe so they don't care about us and our money.
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Reply #48 posted 10/22/25 10:52am

johnpiex

Firstly, sincere thanks to whomever put this out there. It takes a little bit of the sting off of the absolute debacle that is the ATWIAD Deluxe. Sad that it’s only the fans and bootleggers who can provide exciting Prince releases these days.

I think it was the right decision to not release these tracks in this format. The Symbol album deserves its own release. And the quality of some of these tracks is not up to par. The sound on Holly Don’t Care is abysmal. The rehearsals of 3 Chains and Love 2 The 9s fall a bit flat. Is that a click track on 1000 Hugs? The fact that made it by quality control and nearly got released is quite troubling.

Uh Huh sounds the best I’ve heard it. I love that you can hear him smiling during certain moments of the song. The fact that he was singing over some of his old loops on a couple of tracks is quite interesting. I think Face 2 Face is really cool. And Dream sounds promising as well, though it needs a few more spins. I might be in the minority here but I really like that early version of Race. I like the blend of Tony and Prince together on vocals. And it sounds like part of it was used on However Much U Want. 51 Hours sounds much better than I remember it. I think the somewhat subdued guide vocals on the Mavis and Tevin tracks, especially Uncle Sam and Blood Is Thicker Than Time make them a bit disappointing. They were definitely elevated by the singers who released them. I would have been more interested in hearing his version of You Will Be Moved and the original version of Shhh.


Remember Me and There sound like I’ll Do Anything tracks, and are quite nice despite the sappy lyrics. I would have liked Make Believe and a version of Wow on here as well. It’s nice to have Prince’s version of Superhero, though I think the version that was supposed to be on Exodus is far superior. Baby Doll we’ve had for awhile but it’s still a definite highlight for me. All in all, there is plenty of great stuff to listen to here and again, big kudos to whomever put this out there. Imagine running the Prince estate and promoting a “free” vault this year, only to lock it right back up.
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Reply #49 posted 10/22/25 11:01am

lottusflower

PaoloPinkel said:[quote]

I also don't know where to search?

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You can hear all of them on yt
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Reply #50 posted 10/22/25 11:24am

Ndorphinmachin
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Big thanks to whoever leaked this.

While it's not my favourite song. Face 2 face is interesting. With it's sample from Forever in my life, and it's chorus becoming the opening line to Space. It really is a bridge between past and (at the time) future.
Add to that, Rave Church Style and MNIP featuring the IWBYL sample; He really was looking back to his past while working on the prince album.
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Reply #51 posted 10/22/25 12:07pm

bizzie

MIRvmn1 said:


I remember 8 songs leaking a few months before Diamonds and Pearls SDE was released. I hope this new leak means we might get an official release next year

.

Why do you lot keep thinking that random events are signs for something? Over and over again, despite there never being a pay-off later on because the random event wasn't a sign and merely a random event.

.

READ THE THREAD. There tracks have been circulating for at least a year, likely even longer. They just now happened to get in the hands of someone who simply leaked them. To see this as an omen of the estate releasing them is ridiculous.

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Reply #52 posted 10/22/25 12:10pm

bizzie

FJODOR said:

i'm quite sure that of the 800 or so people who downloaded this set by now, about 90% are
willing and able and jumping at the bit to buy them in better quality with some extra's or a
few more developed versions.

.

The current estate has proved again and again that they are incapable of providing quality releases.

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Reply #53 posted 10/22/25 12:22pm

olb99

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Vannormal said:

olb99 said:


On the other hand, now that those tracks are out, don't expect other leaks. They were compiled by the previous Estate. And they were circulating among some fans for more than a year.

[Edited 10/22/25 8:09am]

...who knows, maybe we get the Parade SDE compiled then at some point in the future.

Never say never.


My Magic 8 Ball says: "My sources say no".

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Reply #54 posted 10/22/25 12:29pm

olb99

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bizzie said:

To see this as an omen of the estate releasing them is ridiculous.


Or maybe they will release them, as the first compilation of previously unreleased tracks since 2023, specifically because they just leaked and we all have them, just to spite us. lol

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Reply #55 posted 10/22/25 12:52pm

lustmealways

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Real: I do think these NEED to be released just like everything else NEEDS to be released. Like, it doesn't have to be soon, but just cause they got out doesn't "disqualify" them from official release. And no I don't think they need to be released in this hodgepodge SDE config form either, but the tracks themselves yeah it'd be a shame if stuff like Face 2 Face and Baby Doll never got official releases.

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Reply #56 posted 10/22/25 1:12pm

thenewfunkystu
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Unbelievable. I'm getting more and more the impression that the outtakes they omitted from the set are better than the ones they included. Whoever leaked those songs is my hero of the year.
Thank you SO much.

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Reply #57 posted 10/22/25 1:30pm

databank

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SquirrelMeat said:

As some of us expected, following The Halls of Desire, all tracks are now in the cloud. 128kbps.

Uh-Huh - 8:28
I Hear Your Voice - 4:28
Willing And Able Extended 12" - 6:20
The Flow - 5:12
3 Chains o’ Gold - 5:53
Rave Church Style - 6:06
Love 2 the 9’s - 5:06
With This Tear - 3:51
Goodbye - 1:58
Arrogance - 4:59
Baby Doll - 5:11
Race - 6:47
51 Hours - 4:14
Blood Is Thicker than Time 3:12
House in Order - 4:58
1,000 Hugs and Kisses - 8:00
Uncle Sam - 4:47
The Halls of Desire - 4:32
Paris 1784/3020 - 3:44
The P - 3:30
Extraordinary (Live) - 2:29
Face 2 Face - 5:01
The Ryde Dyvine - 4:16
In the Middle of the Night - 1:45
There - 1:14
Super Hero - 4:58
Remember Me - 3:21
Holy I Don’t Care - 6:33
Dream (Demo) - 4:59

[Edited 10/21/25 19:51pm]

I was among the happy fews who already had been entrusted with this collection, but I wasn't allowed to share it. I'm glad it's finally out there: it's a really strong selection, much better than the D&P outtakes IMHO — and the people I knew who also had it seemed to share this opinion.

That said, what a lost opportunity for the Estate: they could have released it and cashed on it, even just digitally if they weren't going to put out a fancy SDE, and now it's out there without their involvement rolleyes

Y'all enjoy, it really made my week when I first heard it yes

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Reply #58 posted 10/22/25 1:41pm

ShellyMcG

databank said:



SquirrelMeat said:


As some of us expected, following The Halls of Desire, all tracks are now in the cloud. 128kbps.

Uh-Huh - 8:28
I Hear Your Voice - 4:28
Willing And Able Extended 12" - 6:20
The Flow - 5:12
3 Chains o’ Gold - 5:53
Rave Church Style - 6:06
Love 2 the 9’s - 5:06
With This Tear - 3:51
Goodbye - 1:58
Arrogance - 4:59
Baby Doll - 5:11
Race - 6:47
51 Hours - 4:14
Blood Is Thicker than Time 3:12
House in Order - 4:58
1,000 Hugs and Kisses - 8:00
Uncle Sam - 4:47
The Halls of Desire - 4:32
Paris 1784/3020 - 3:44
The P - 3:30
Extraordinary (Live) - 2:29
Face 2 Face - 5:01
The Ryde Dyvine - 4:16
In the Middle of the Night - 1:45
There - 1:14
Super Hero - 4:58
Remember Me - 3:21
Holy I Don’t Care - 6:33
Dream (Demo) - 4:59



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I was among the happy fews who already had been entrusted with this collection, but I wasn't allowed to share it. I'm glad it's finally out there: it's a really strong selection, much better than the D&P outtakes IMHO — and the people I knew who also had it seemed to share this opinion.



That said, what a lost opportunity for the Estate: they could have released it and cashed on it, even just digitally if they weren't going to put out a fancy SDE, and now it's out there without their involvement rolleyes



Y'all enjoy, it really made my week when I first heard it yes



Out of interest, why were you not "allowed" to share it? Also, why would anyone want to prevent you from sharing it with the wider community? And why couldn't they have shared it themselves?

I'll make you all a deal. If I ever get my grubby little mitts on anything that was previously unleaked, I'll share it with you all.
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Reply #59 posted 10/22/25 1:48pm

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ShellyMcG said:

databank said:

I was among the happy fews who already had been entrusted with this collection, but I wasn't allowed to share it. I'm glad it's finally out there: it's a really strong selection, much better than the D&P outtakes IMHO — and the people I knew who also had it seemed to share this opinion.

That said, what a lost opportunity for the Estate: they could have released it and cashed on it, even just digitally if they weren't going to put out a fancy SDE, and now it's out there without their involvement rolleyes

Y'all enjoy, it really made my week when I first heard it yes

Out of interest, why were you not "allowed" to share it? Also, why would anyone want to prevent you from sharing it with the wider community? And why couldn't they have shared it themselves? I'll make you all a deal. If I ever get my grubby little mitts on anything that was previously unleaked, I'll share it with you all.


It's always the same: if you're asked not to share something, you don't share it, hoping that in the future you will be able to receive more uncirculating material.

Do you want to be that person who cannot keep secrets? wink

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