ffdff123 said:

ghostof82 said:

But what I want - what I really really want - is the America bedsheets and matching towels set. Come on Estate, you're slacking!

Y'all ran that joke through the ground now...

Some people never seem to be satisfied by anything, and act like spoiled children that want more toys than they already have. What a life of frustration that must be. The art of simple appeciation and gratitude is slowly dying...

This release is cool....
BUTT
They could also release the other vinyl-only singles.

Where's my "Sexy Dancer (Extended Version)" ???

nayroo2002 said:

Where's my "Sexy Dancer (Extended Version)" ???

There: https://www.discogs.com/r...-Dance-Too

Kares said:

announcement from the official Prince facebook page:

“America (12” Version)” drops worldwide July 4th 12:00am local time. First released in October 1985, this high-energy track was Prince’s fourth and final single from Around The World In A Day. Described by Prince himself as “straightforwardly patriotic,” it remains a bold statement in his musical legacy.

Wanna Impress Me? Release the VIDEO Version! Don'T Give Me somrthing I already have 3 Copies of!

woogiebear said:

woogiebear said:

Kares said:

announcement from the official Prince facebook page:

“America (12” Version)” drops worldwide July 4th 12:00am local time. First released in October 1985, this high-energy track was Prince’s fourth and final single from Around The World In A Day. Described by Prince himself as “straightforwardly patriotic,” it remains a bold statement in his musical legacy.

Wanna Impress Me? Release the VIDEO Version! Don'T Give Me somrthing I already have 3 Copies of!

Exactly what I was thinking! I have my original 12" that I bought in 85, then I burned it to a CD inthe 90s, then edited it a bit a few years after (it DOES get repetitive). I want an official copy of the video version! That thing is fire!

databank said:

nayroo2002 said:

Where's my "Sexy Dancer (Extended Version)" ???

There: https://www.discogs.com/r...-Dance-Too

cool
But, that's a needle drop, too, innit?

theblueangel said:

Farfunknugin said:

The estate is just trolling us at this point . Never been more depressed about the state of princes legacy.

Same. I thought I had lost hope a while back, but now I realized that part of me assumed that they would at least release some stuff to make money, but now I realize they're too incompetent to even do that. It would be mind-bogglingly easy for them to release one of the dozens of sound board quality rehearsal/soundcheck jams with some info about when it was recorded- granted, that would also mean they are releasing something I've had for years but at least it's something the general public wouldn't be aware of, and it would show me that they at least have *some* awareness of the magnificence of his career and the value (not just cash value, but artistic value) of what they're sitting on. Instead they do a Dolby remaster (which is fine, although to most people in most of the ways people listen to music, results in a negligible difference) of a single released 40 years ago, and not even a 12" record with appropriate art and Girl on the b-side etc, but just the digital drop and three fucking T-shirts with "America" embarrassingly written on them. As if wearing a shirt emblazoned with AMERICA is something most people would be willing to do in 2025.

Dolby Atmos remix, not a remaster.

Just for clarification

nayroo2002 said:

databank said:

There: https://www.discogs.com/r...-Dance-Too

cool
But, that's a needle drop, too, innit?

Not 100% certain if anyone was absolutely sure, but the consensus when its existence was revealed (at least to most of us) a few months back seemed to be that it wasn't, or that if it was it was extremely well made.

databank said:

nayroo2002 said:

cool
But, that's a needle drop, too, innit?

Not 100% certain if anyone was absolutely sure, but the consensus when its existence was revealed (at least to most of us) a few months back seemed to be that it wasn't, or that if it was it was extremely well made.

Come to think of it, we focused on that one song, but though I only listened to it once, I seem to recall that the whole CD sounded very clean, so I'd be inclined to think they acquired proper masters for each song. I'd have to listen again (but I don't necessarily have the best ears to tell a thing like this, I'll admit).

keywiz said:

tomds said:

keywiz said:

Dolby Atmos remix, not a remaster.

Just for clarification

Indeed. I hope this Dolby Atmos thing is not going to be a standard for every future release. I need nice clean remastered stereo mixes, not Dolby Atmos. My stereo is not equipped for that and the mix sounds strange like this. For me the vinyl rip we have for decades still sounds better than the new Atmos remix. I'm missing sound effects listening to it on my normal basic stereo equipment.

I haven't checked this track out that fully, but these streaming sites that offer Atmos mixes also have the stereo mixes available that aren't just a 'fold down' of the Atmos mix. It should offer you both if your system is equipped to handle Atmos.

Maybe this track was an exception? But I would think the stereo mix available is a remaster of the original mix.

Certainly when they sell them that is the case. The Dolby Atmos BluRay of Purple Rain, for example, contains both the new Atmos mix and a high-resolution remaster of the original stereo mix.

So, even though this estate has driven me to distraction.......

This dolby mix of America is kinda awesome.

DotsofU said:

fredmagnus said:

Funkyslap said:

Some people never seem to be satisfied by anything, and act like spoiled children that want more toys than they already have. What a life of frustration that must be. The art of simple appeciation and gratitude is slowly dying...

Right, it's really hard to understand why people are not happy getting something they've heard a thousand times when there's a treasure trove of unheard music collecting dust in the vault. I don't get it either lol.

I seriously cannot understand why some people want to crap on this release. We have literally NEVER had the 12" version of America from a remastered digital source, and so not only do we get a completely surprise release of the extended version (which sounds absolutely amazing, easily besting the nicest needledrops out there), we ALSO get an Atmos mix, which is a gift for those of us who can enjoy such a beast. However, what REALLY shows how whiny some people can be is how for some of those who haven't yet upgraded to play Atmos mixes actually complain that the Estate shouldn't bother with said mixes only because THEY aren't able to enjoy them. Screw anyone out there who might actually appreciate these revalatory mixes. That'd be like me saying I hate ATWIAD (I don't), so the Estate shouldn't release a SDE of it.

And as for the live video being "unreleased" as compared to the 12" version, it certainly was released on iTunes, where I bought an actual download of the official video.

BTW, if there IS an SDE of ATWIAD, I would hape that they include the entire 20-minute Nice concert where the America video was taken from. THe other songs have never leaked and it would be amazing to see America in the context of the full show.

love2thenines2003 said:

DotsofU said:

So, even though this estate has driven me to distraction.......

This dolby mix of America is kinda awesome.

What kind of audiophile player and headphones can u suggest me to listen a trax proposed in Atmos format? Thanx

I wish I had an informed answer for you - but I didn't listen with anything special - just apple earpods and also my laptop and it sounds so good.

Now, it could just be - that hearing different sounds in a song that I know like the back-of-my-hand is what makes it good ..... but that's fine by me at this point!

Hopefully someone else could give you more of an audiophile point of view.

love2thenines2003 said:

DotsofU said:

So, even though this estate has driven me to distraction.......

This dolby mix of America is kinda awesome.

What kind of audiophile player and headphones can u suggest me to listen a trax proposed in Atmos format? Thanx

I have a 7.1 receiver and speaker set-up. I play the Atmos mix on there (no headphones necessary) and it sounds incredible. Honestly, I don't think Atmos mixes could be experienced properly with headphones. You need the music coming at you from all sides to fully experience the power.

This is a great teaser. By using the holiday to drop something, to send a message to the fans that this is what you can expect from the upcoming “Around the World in a Day” release. Yes, it will include, at least, remastered 12” singles and b-sides, all in Atmos. I'm super excited!

dave1dmarx said:

love2thenines2003 said:

DotsofU said: What kind of audiophile player and headphones can u suggest me to listen a trax proposed in Atmos format? Thanx

I have a 7.1 receiver and speaker set-up. I play the Atmos mix on there (no headphones necessary) and it sounds incredible. Honestly, I don't think Atmos mixes could be experienced properly with headphones. You need the music coming at you from all sides to fully experience the power.

Thanks for the tip - I can only imagine how great it sounds when heard on the appropriate device

peedub said:

Atmos mixes garner about as much interest from me as a colorized re-release of citizen kane might. Or witnessing someone vomiting in a parking lot...I see it's happening, and then the rest of my day proceeds as if it hadn't.

...a "draw the line" kinda thing.
i get it, cuz it's the same as some folks wanting to hear When Doves Cry with the synth bass.
I don't want to hear it cuz then I can't un-hear it upon later listens.
It'll ruin the song as Prince intended it to be.

I'm happy for the new atmos mix and I love the 12" version! I love those jams where the groove just goes on and they get all the jam out, rehearsal wildness vibe!
The image on the America t shirt though I find a little weird. I know that they were trying to include Alaska and Hawaii , but it kind of messes with the symmetry.

I think they should've stuck with the design for the French 7" , but what do I know

https://www.discogs.com/r...on-America

https://store.prince.com/...229_103231

nayroo2002 said:

peedub said:

Atmos mixes garner about as much interest from me as a colorized re-release of citizen kane might. Or witnessing someone vomiting in a parking lot...I see it's happening, and then the rest of my day proceeds as if it hadn't.

...a "draw the line" kinda thing.
i get it, cuz it's the same as some folks wanting to hear When Doves Cry with the synth bass.
I don't want to hear it cuz then I can't un-hear it upon later listens.
It'll ruin the song as Prince intended it to be.

Did the version of Dorothy Parker with horns ruined it for you?

Not for me. It's an addition.

Vannormal said:

nayroo2002 said:

...a "draw the line" kinda thing.
i get it, cuz it's the same as some folks wanting to hear When Doves Cry with the synth bass.
I don't want to hear it cuz then I can't un-hear it upon later listens.
It'll ruin the song as Prince intended it to be.

Did the version of Dorothy Parker with horns ruined it for you?

Not for me. It's an addition.

Yeah, that one sucked balls.

love2thenines2003 said:

DotsofU said:

So, even though this estate has driven me to distraction.......

This dolby mix of America is kinda awesome.

What kind of audiophile player and headphones can u suggest me to listen a trax proposed in Atmos format? Thanx

I listen to Atmos on the 5.1 surround system I have in my living room for watching movies. It's not "Atmos" (which is several more speakers including some in the ceilings) but it still works quite well.

But most of these modern Atmos mixes are geared towards those with "spatial" earbuds. If you have an iPhone, get the latest AirPods that play Atmos and you should at least get the "spatial" effect they are intended to create.

IMO, not as good as large speakers spread around a room, but probably better than nothing.

peedub said:

Atmos mixes garner about as much interest from me as a colorized re-release of citizen kane might. Or witnessing someone vomiting in a parking lot...I see it's happening, and then the rest of my day proceeds as if it hadn't.

Then you clearly know nothing about recording or mixing music. An Atmos mix from the original multi-track tapes is NOTHING like "a colorized re-release".

What they DO provide, for the hardcore fan, is the ability to hear the music in a more intimate fashion. Want to imagine what it was like being in studio when Prince was mixing the album? Or on stage with the band? Then a 5.1 or Atmos mix is the way to go.

[Edited 7/13/25 4:28am]

nayroo2002 said:

peedub said:

Atmos mixes garner about as much interest from me as a colorized re-release of citizen kane might. Or witnessing someone vomiting in a parking lot...I see it's happening, and then the rest of my day proceeds as if it hadn't.

...a "draw the line" kinda thing.
i get it, cuz it's the same as some folks wanting to hear When Doves Cry with the synth bass.
I don't want to hear it cuz then I can't un-hear it upon later listens.
It'll ruin the song as Prince intended it to be.

Wrong. It's NOTHING like hearing When Doves Cry with the synth bass.

The Atmos mixes, generally speaking, add NOTHING that wasn't already there.

Do you think it becomes "ruined" to have heard a Prince song only on a mono speaker to later hear it in stereo?

Of course it doesn't.

But continue to speak ignorance about things you clearly know nothing about.

Vannormal said:

nayroo2002 said:

...a "draw the line" kinda thing.
i get it, cuz it's the same as some folks wanting to hear When Doves Cry with the synth bass.
I don't want to hear it cuz then I can't un-hear it upon later listens.
It'll ruin the song as Prince intended it to be.

Did the version of Dorothy Parker with horns ruined it for you?

Not for me. It's an addition.

the Atmos mix doesn't add anything. There are no horns that weren't on the original mix. It simply pulls the mix apart and spreads it across more speakers.

dualboot said:

The thing with Atmos mixes is that it is only inserted as a new profit model to insert a way to get license fee payments from player/hardware and in future use (pay per listen) as tech progresses. There was a Dolby atmos story a while back about that they wanted to reinvent the way they got money out of the whole Dolby Atmos thing.

Could be. But that doesn't change the fact that hearing music in surround formats -- be it quad, 5.1 or Atmos -- is as much an improvement in most cases as was stereo vs. mono.