Just to make all y'all freak out. The next two SDE's will be Purple Rain and next The Symbol Album.

You won't get anything revolutionary but it is what it is.. Enjoy it.

I do NOT have to provide links to prove this.

I got this info from an inside source and I'm just sharing the info.

BlueShakooo said:

If those SDE's are well done I'm absolutely fine with it.

The outtakes selection for the shelved Symbol SDE was really remarkable IMHO, much much better overall than what we got for D&P (or even SOTT for that matter), so depending how much of it they keep, it could be brilliant

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PR, I'm a little skeptical because there was already one 8 years ago and there are so many other eras to explore (+ I think everyone is really, really looking forward to a collection of Parade era outtakes), but the last one left a lot of room for improvement so if done well, it's always welcome of course (maybe we can get Erotic City without the glitch this time?).

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Now there's also rumors that they don't wanna do the SDE format anymore because they lost money with the last few ones, so this is confusing. We'll see tomorrow I guess...

BlueShakooo said:

If those SDE's are well done I'm absolutely fine with it.

I would be too, as I was fine with the previous SDEs aside from their occasional flaws. The problem is that the current estate hasn't shown any sign that they're capable of doing anything well, let alone an entire SDE from scratch. They frequently botch everything from spelling in official promotions, to audio quality in digital singles and working URLs on social media.

bozojones said:

BlueShakooo said:

If those SDE's are well done I'm absolutely fine with it.

I would be too, as I was fine with the previous SDEs aside from their occasional flaws. The problem is that the current estate hasn't shown any sign that they're capable of doing anything well, let alone an entire SDE from scratch. They frequently botch everything from spelling in official promotions, to audio quality in digital singles and working URLs on social media.

Admitedly that one was really funny

Like, IDK, the timing couldn't have been worse for a thing like that to happen

Reportedly Lonnie and Charlie have been telling Celebration attendees that producing SDEs is too costly and they don't make money.

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Imagine telling people that you're too incompetent to make money selling Prince music.

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Chastity said:

I understand "You won't get anything revolutionary" as: those SDE have been ready for years, they're from the previous instance of the Estate, so we basically know what the "Love Symbol" SDE will contain (plus or minus a few tracks maybe?). I expect the "Purple Rain" SDE (if it's released) to contain a lof of things that have been known for decades. Plus a few surprises (I hope).

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olb99 said:

I understand "You won't get anything revolutionary" as: those SDE have been ready for years, they're from the previous instance of the Estate, so we basically know what the "Love Symbol" SDE will contain (plus or minus a few tracks maybe?). I expect the "Purple Rain" SDE (if it's released) to contain a lof of things that have been known for decades. Plus a few surprises (I hope).

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I hope ure right my friend ?

wait a minute, are we sure that this is not the PR musical SDE

if no SDE means more simple deluxe editions or expanded remasters, that's fine with me.

without the book and extra stuff and no 12 vinyls, including limited edition singles boxes
to press, I guess the process could be streamlined a lot more and there would be room for
more tracks and alternate versions on cd or even online only releases.

leave some extra vinyl options for record store day or as ultra limited releases in the web
store on the official site.

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Trufunksoulja said:

wait a minute, are we sure that this is not the PR musical SDE

I can just imagine

"well we have all this vault music and it's so amazing it is just incredible, but we feel like what
the public wants right now is something else. we have been talking to lots of fans and there is
a great demand for the cast recording of the PR musical so we have decided to focus all of our
efforts on promoting the PR musical and curating an amazing release on several formats. the
one thing we kept hearing again and again from the true fans is that they want multiple colors
for the vinyl release so we will have to be patient since it will take about 3 year to press all of
these different colors as the record plants still experience serious back logs and delays".


so let's celebrate the PR musical. collect all the buttons, all the shoe laces, the confetti and the
deck of playing cards with pictures and trivia of the cast.

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bizzie said:

Reportedly Lonnie and Charlie have been telling Celebration attendees that producing SDEs is too costly and they don't make money.

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Imagine telling people that you're too incompetent to make money selling Prince music.

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There are two questions I don't have the answers to, i.e. 1/ Why weren't the SDE profitable? (Is it usually the case with other artists? Was something too costly in Prince's case? Does Prince sell less than others for whom it is profitable?) and 2/ What else would be profitable (Why would it be cheaper to produce? Why would it sell more?).

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I myself don't really care for the SDE format, I found it more often frustrating than satisfactory in terms of content so far. I would personally favor well curated, cohesive compilations of outtakes that would provide a nice listening experience in sequence (for example, the Bonnie Raitt, Martika and Tevin Campbell tracks could have been great EPs, the D&P outtakes and alternates would have worked better separated from the new jack swing songs given to other artists, etc.) for whatever they deem deserves a "proper" release, and a subscribtion service for everything else (same with live shows, soundchecks and rehearsals: there's the occasional gem and there's all your not so well recorded, not so exceptional in terms of content tapes lying around — we already know that from the soundboard bootlegs in circulation, not everything deserves a deluxe boxset).

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Now comes the question of how much you charge for what. Bill Laswell charges about 20 bucks a month and for this we have at least one new album (usually live) a month, sometimes more (there was more at the beginning because there was more in his vault, I think). I think it's acceptable. George Clinton charges the same for ONE SONG a month, which I think is really excessive (but Danny Bedrosian says he believes the material's worth it). When it comes to Prince, given the ridiculous amount of tapes at hand, I think they could easily throw us a show and a rehearsal a month, plus a handful of outtakes (even if they're mostly alt. mixes) each month without exhausting the well anytime soon.

Thank you for clarifying where this information came from Chastity. It would be great if they could announce this in a straightforward manner if this is the case.I look forward to any release that is new music.

bizzie said:

Reportedly Lonnie and Charlie have been telling Celebration attendees that producing SDEs is too costly and they don't make money.

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Imagine telling people that you're too incompetent to make money selling Prince music.

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Mind boggling and sad

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Of course SDEs will never make the kind of profit socks and T-shirts can make, and probably that's what McMillan would expect.

However, there are plenty of ways to make them far more profitable than they were so far:
– don't press every stupid edit and remix onto vinyl. In fact, don't even press concerts onto vinyl, especially when they come out on bluray too. (I admit I don't care for vinyl at all – it is a stupid nostalgia thing, way overpriced and full of technical issues and contrary to common opinion, they can only sound worse than the digital file they're mastered from. The only reason I bought the vinyl version of the SDEs was to get all the artwork they contained on the vinyl sleeves, and I did NOT like to be 'forced' to buy those beasts just for the extra artwork.)

– change the form factor of the CD box set, make it smaller, make it a collectible, numbered series with identical graphic elements, and don't make the booklet hardback when you're putting it in a rigid, safe box anyway. (See the Joni Mitchell Archive series form factor as a great example, or the book style box sets of the critically acclaimed and successful Jethro Tull expanded editions.)
– release more vault tracks but don't just bloat the SDEs with them, assemble separate vault albums of tracks that have very little to do with the main subject of the SDE. The general public have no idea about the depths of Prince's vault, and if they see a deluxe edition of one of his albums, they are going to assume the extra tracks are nothing more than substandard leftovers, ruined takes and rehearsals. They don't expect to find totally unrelated, great masters there, so those should come out as albums on their own right.
(I could go on and on, but there's not much point...)
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But really, failing to make great business out of the Prince vault is totally ridiculous.

love2thenines2003 said:

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With respect love2thenines2003, Chastity is a hardcore “lifer” Prince fan who has contributed to the community for decades (30 years of unreleased funk being an example )

He is also a moderator here at the org. (Moderator comment - he isn't nor ever has been a prince.org moderator - l'ange bleu, moderator)

If he says he got this as insider information, I tend to believe him.

Whether or not these releases are the next to come to pass is an exercise in predicting the future that we have no control over.

He doesn't deserve to be abused as unreliable or untrustworthy.

I don't know him personally and have no vested interest in defending him, but if people keep railing on those who post here, fewer people will post here and those who have something to give will likely stay mute or leave.

I'd also add: don't put all those outtakes on streaming. Keep them exclusive to physical media and digital sales.

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Also, have an ongoing program. Don't release one SDE and then expect that to keep going for a year. Release one-off singles. Release one major (SDE) and one minor set per year (e.g. something like Originals).

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There's still a ton of already released music that is unavailable, like protege artists. Release expanded versions of those albums, with remixes and edits and perhaps even outtakes.

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We're 18 months or so since the release of the D&P SDE, what has been released since then? Yeah sure, there was the Netflix thing, but that got resolved four months ago and since then we've had one track. There should have been a whole album of unreleased music been prepared for that moment and released immediately digitally, and then later a physical release. That could have been a CD release for RSD in April.

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What is even the point of spending money on restoring concert videos and then only showing them once at Paisley Park? How is that financially viable?

If those currently in charge can't make money selling Prince's music, fire them and hire one of the many people already in their orbit that can. Simple and obvious...

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