It has been said for awhile, even way before the Celebration, in the wake of the D&P SDE. I think they should try less expensive packaging so more people can afford it, like go back to the 1999 SDE style packaging. I don't really care for those big coffeetable books anyway. I just need a booklet that says when the tracks were recorded. Speaking of 1999 SDE, wouldn't it be cool if they released a companion CD to it that had the title track with the latin part, original version of Raspberry Beret, Extra Loveable, Lust U Always and all that? They could put a warning sticker on the cover because of the rape lyrics that had the old estate leave the tracks off the initial release.
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I agree,if costs are a problem,they should just simplify these SDEs.The 1999 SDE was perfect.We don’t need a big,bloated coffee table book with a lot of unnecessary commentary.Make it simple (and more affordable) like the 1999 SDE!
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Before he performed, he recorded the same verse (or a rough version of it) over the track for the "PRETZELBODYLOGIC" remix that Joshua did. Not sure if it was ever finished, because it sounded as if he was just freestyling over it from what Josh played that night. | |
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Future plans: generate the highest vague anticipations toward commercial development of desireable Prince's output to drive the highest bids by serious-minded people to buyout the present estate managers. > Wouldn't that be cool? | |
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There are various lessons that can be learned from the fan community and the mistakes of the previous Estate. As great as Dave Chappelle is, does anyone really want/need an essay about music from him? Including 7" versions on vinyl (or CDs, for that matter) is a massive waste. So is pressing an entire concert sourced from a low quality cassette (Utrecht). Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain. | |
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. Let's just say they hinted at it, or at best, they made a vague promise. But it certainly wasn't an announcement. A product announcement would be "ATWIAD SDE is coming out on 24 October, it will be a 10LP/5CD + 1BR set, and here is the setlist:..." (Hope this won't get quoted, it is just an example. Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3.
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Not sure if you were there or not, but it was neither a hint nor vague. The next release will be Around the World in a Day. I agree more detail is needed but as the @TPS report covers these are sizable and complex projects, involving multiple owners, 2 record companies, 3rd party sign offs and production / marketing logistics and scheduling. | |
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They were asked years ago about a PR 40 project, of which they confirmed their intentions to do so. And now they are no longer even talking about it. So until we get some release dates, they’re just “Talkin’ Loud And Sayin’ Nothing.” | |
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I would love to see that, even if this might be as super and deluxe as SOTT or 1999 because most of the unreleased material would be on PR already or on an upcoming Parade SDE. Most of the stuff Prince recorded between PR and ATWIAD was associated artist stuff, right? The Family, Sheila E...
I would like to add: She's always in my hair (demo) 4 The Tears in your eyes (2 versions are existing: live and studio) Boy (Vanity version which is part of Girl (backwards)) The whole The Family album with Prince vocals! --> Nothind compares 2 u -- too stupid it is already released... The whole Nice show (America video shoot) audio + video Junk music - the whole instrumental album as a standalone additional release. or maybe it's part of the PArade era? I am not sure There was no ATWIAD tour - but you could probalbly add live and rehearsal version of ATWIAD songs as performed on the Parade tour!!
WILL BUY. Whatever comes. Of course as a horrend expensive vinyl version. to not make money with this SD Editions is ridiculous. at the moment looking at the music market this is the ONLY possibility (besides playing live or licensing for advertising, musicals (...) and video streaming platforms (......)) to make money
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the statement going around about 'SDE's not being profitable' is stupid because it was never said. | |
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Exactly. Remember the "signature PR40 project" they promised 2 years ago. . For now, there is nothing concrete. As usual. | |
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Remember, prince himself talked up releases that never happened too... Roadhouse Garden anyone...and so, while I'm not sure of the validity of what your referencing, post the Q&A when i got a chance to speak to Charles Spicer, he said he was not keen on another PR release and it is only the record companies that are pushing for that. As I've said on other responses, they didn't have to do the Q&A and they took questions from fams, saying what they did say, only creates a rod for their own backs, so have a little faith and we will see in due course. | |
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said by whom? | |
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mattosgood said:
Remember, prince himself talked up releases that never happened too... Roadhouse Garden anyone ...and so, while I'm not sure of the validity of what your referencing, post the Q&A when i got a chance to speak to Charles Spicer, he said he was not keen on another PR release and it is only the record companies that are pushing for that.As I've said on other responses, they didn't have to do the Q&A and they took questions from fams, saying what they did say, only creates a rod for their own backs, so have a little faith and we will see in due course. Yes, and some of us expressed our frustration towards Prince’s fickle nature over the years. But the difference is that Prince just so happened to be El Primo - the mad genius at the helm. Whether we liked it or not, we still had to respect the fact that any choices he made were his prerogative, as well as his artistic expression. These guys are not Prince. But they are being paid handsomely to run his business and legacy. Celebrating 40 years of Purple Rain with no release is a significant ball-drop, especially after expressing their intentions to do so. So while the idea of allowing a Q&A is a good one, one would have to be skeptical about any intentions they expressed therein. How about some release dates? A release schedule? | |
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I would say it is more than just the Q&A, reading the report is one thing, but witnessing their tone took it further and IMHO they were genuine and they get it, as in what the hardcore fans want. As to a schedule, patience is a virtue, it will clearly come in due course. | |
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From what i get (from what has happened since 2022 & from what they said at the panel), this whole process is far too complex for them. It would require people who know how to handle such a huge Estate, people with the right connections, etc... . Of course, releasing a box set is not easy and that's why there are professionnals entitled to do it. . For now, they just have shown their incompetence. If it's too hard for them, then just leave it to the ones who know how to do it. [Edited 6/10/25 9:25am] [Edited 6/10/25 18:06pm] | |
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Now that we have a clearer report, I must say that I don't find any of what was said unreasonable. Now how will it translate into actions, solid releases and a more collaborative effort with the fanbase, IDK, but I will act in good faith and say I welcome those statements. . Obviously not all of us can spend thousands of dollars and fly halfway across the world to attend such a panel once a year, so I hope other channels of communications will be opened. It's a little early to say much about it, but I know there are some behind the scenes discussions about how to do this from the fans' side. Something will hopefully come out of it. . In case someone at the Estate is reading this, I think the main issues the fanbase had so far were: - errors on the releases (unproper restoration, glitches and other sound problems, frankenstein mixes, posthumous tinkering with tracks or tracklists); - errors or lack of information in the credits (missing or mistaken information: we as a fanbase have a culture of knowledge thanks to the works of Uptown Mag, Per Nielsen and Duane Tudahl among others, we love the music, but we also love knowing who, when, where and how when it comes to recording sessions); - lack of regularity in the releases: indeed, rushing releases for the sake of releasing things is no proper way to go (PR Deluxe, P&AM83 and Originals proved this), but Prince used to drop a new song here or there all the times (see my chronological discography website to get an idea of the frantic pace of releases!), and I'm glad to see this seems to be understood with the discussion of a NPGMC-type service revival and singles dropping online on a regular basis. It doesn't have to be a full fledged project every month, but a song or EP here and there, with the proper information regarding what it is and when it's from, would make a lot of people happy. - a lot of official material remains unavailable, particularly when it comes to the side-projects, online releases/streams and broadcast/releases video concerts. This is material that may need some restoration in a some cases, but is more or less ready to go, and while adding new material to the canon contributes to Prince's legacy, making everything he did release in his lifetime available seems just as important IMHO. . TBH, even if I have to admit I sometimes contributed to it myself, I'm a little tired of all the negativity, so let's hope those olive branch talks of listening to and involving the community are not wishful thinking, and that positive things can come out of it. Some of us are up to it . [Edited 6/10/25 11:33am] A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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. Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3.
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Also, would the music at that time not have been recorded digitally? | |
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. No, he went back to analog tape. (Though in the '90s he used digital tape and PT too.) Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3.
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MIRvmn1 said: More info from an attende. "HITnRUN Phase One and Two are being reissued on vinyl, They are looking into a streaming service npgmusicclub that prince supposedly left “blueprints” for, Sony representative mentioned uploading concert footage to Tubi, as it's more profitable for them. Londell also mentioned possible deals with movie theaters to show concert footage. Londell mentioned they want a schedule like 1 big release, 1 mini one and various digital only singles spread throughout" Well lot's of promises. I believe it when I see it. [Edited 6/7/25 23:35pm] That's the same formula that the former administrators had and one they should stick to. I think the biggest revelation was that only 45% of the vault had been digitized. | |
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SoulAlive said: I agree,if costs are a problem,they should just simplify these SDEs.The 1999 SDE was perfect.We don’t need a big,bloated coffee table book with a lot of unnecessary commentary.Make it simple (and more affordable) like the 1999 SDE! .. [Edited 6/9/25 22:51pm] I'm with you on that. A series of boxes in the same format as the 1999 SDE would be great, and look fine on the shelf as an expanding library of definive Prince releases. Well,we can dream... | |
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johnpiex said: They were asked years ago about a PR 40 project, of which they confirmed their intentions to do so. And now they are no longer even talking about it. So until we get some release dates, they’re just “Talkin’ Loud And Sayin’ Nothing.” Bingo. Lot of folks with goldfish memory around here. | |
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Remember, prince himself talked up releases that never happened too... Roadhouse Garden anyone...and so, while I'm not sure of the validity of what your referencing, post the Q&A when i got a chance to speak to Charles Spicer, he said he was not keen on another PR release and it is only the record companies that are pushing for that. As I've said on other responses, they didn't have to do the Q&A and they took questions from fams, saying what they did say, only creates a rod for their own backs, so have a little faith and we will see in due course. First of all, Prince's fickle nature with projects is hardly something fans loved about the guy, and not something the current estate needs to emulate. Secondly, Prince might have talked about projects that never came to fruition, but at least he always had something new coming out. The estate isn't putting out jack shit, just empty promises for two years in a row and going. | |
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I'd be happy with a remastered Around the World in a Day album. That is a hell of an album and deserves full treatment. The sounds is thin and shitty on CD....no bottom end. | |
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