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Reply #120 posted 06/09/25 9:17pm

scififilmnerd

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mattosgood said:

scififilmnerd said:

with SDE's reportedly not selling (enough). smile

I don't know where you are getting the above from??

Not once did they say anything about them not being profitable, they did say they weren't bought be younger audiences and are extensive and complicated projetcs to deliver.

It has been said for awhile, even way before the Celebration, in the wake of the D&P SDE. I think they should try less expensive packaging so more people can afford it, like go back to the 1999 SDE style packaging. I don't really care for those big coffeetable books anyway. I just need a booklet that says when the tracks were recorded. biggrin

Speaking of 1999 SDE, wouldn't it be cool if they released a companion CD to it that had the title track with the latin part, original version of Raspberry Beret, Extra Loveable, Lust U Always and all that? They could put a warning sticker on the cover because of the rape lyrics that had the old estate leave the tracks off the initial release. biggrin

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rainbow woot! FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION! woot! rainbow
rainbow woot! FREE THE JANUARY 1994 THE GOLD ALBUM CONFIGURATION woot! rainbow
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Reply #121 posted 06/09/25 9:45pm

SoulAlive

I agree,if costs are a problem,they should just simplify these SDEs.The 1999 SDE was perfect.We don’t need a big,bloated coffee table book with a lot of unnecessary commentary.Make it simple (and more affordable) like the 1999 SDE!
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Reply #122 posted 06/10/25 2:15am

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happyshopper said:

"Londell McMillan then reminded fans: "Kendrick Lamar is in the vault!" He confirmed that this material hasn't been found or digitised yet. "

Didn't Kendrick say he visited Paisley Park with the intension of working with Prince on a song, but they never recorded anything? He just did the live stream performance, and that was a last minute surprise.

Before he performed, he recorded the same verse (or a rough version of it) over the track for the "PRETZELBODYLOGIC" remix that Joshua did. Not sure if it was ever finished, because it sounded as if he was just freestyling over it from what Josh played that night.

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Reply #123 posted 06/10/25 2:35am

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Future plans: generate the highest vague anticipations toward commercial development of desireable Prince's output to drive the highest bids by serious-minded people to buyout the present estate managers.
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Wouldn't that be cool? razz
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Reply #124 posted 06/10/25 3:27am

DevotedPuppy

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rap said:

Nonsense. I can make up my mind, thank you. Also, is it telling that no one from Primary Wave was there?



Yes, I find the fact that no one from Primary Wave was present very suspect. Maybe they would rather not be seen with those grifters.

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Reply #125 posted 06/10/25 3:43am

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SoulAlive said:

I agree,if costs are a problem,they should just simplify these SDEs.The 1999 SDE was perfect.We don’t need a big,bloated coffee table book with a lot of unnecessary commentary.Make it simple (and more affordable) like the 1999 SDE!

There are various lessons that can be learned from the fan community and the mistakes of the previous Estate. As great as Dave Chappelle is, does anyone really want/need an essay about music from him? Including 7" versions on vinyl (or CDs, for that matter) is a massive waste. So is pressing an entire concert sourced from a low quality cassette (Utrecht).

They could have hybrid sets; album on vinyl, archive material on CDs/digital download/streaming and [obviously] video material on DVD/Blu Ray.

Vinyl is stupidly expensive and there isn't much of a margin on sales, especially when demand from contemporary artists is high. They don't need to reduce the amount of audio/visual material, just the literal material it's pressed on.

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Reply #126 posted 06/10/25 5:55am

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mattosgood said:

They did annouce 'Around The World In A Day' would be this year.

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Let's just say they hinted at it, or at best, they made a vague promise. But it certainly wasn't an announcement. A product announcement would be "ATWIAD SDE is coming out on 24 October, it will be a 10LP/5CD + 1BR set, and here is the setlist:..." (Hope this won't get quoted, it is just an example. smile)

Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3.

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Reply #127 posted 06/10/25 6:49am

mattosgood

Kares said:

mattosgood said:

They did annouce 'Around The World In A Day' would be this year.

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Let's just say they hinted at it, or at best, they made a vague promise. But it certainly wasn't an announcement. A product announcement would be "ATWIAD SDE is coming out on 24 October, it will be a 10LP/5CD + 1BR set, and here is the setlist:..." (Hope this won't get quoted, it is just an example. smile)

Not sure if you were there or not, but it was neither a hint nor vague.

The next release will be Around the World in a Day.

I agree more detail is needed but as the @TPS report covers these are sizable and complex projects, involving multiple owners, 2 record companies, 3rd party sign offs and production / marketing logistics and scheduling.

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Reply #128 posted 06/10/25 7:44am

johnpiex

They were asked years ago about a PR 40 project, of which they confirmed their intentions to do so. And now they are no longer even talking about it. So until we get some release dates, they’re just “Talkin’ Loud And Sayin’ Nothing.”
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Reply #129 posted 06/10/25 7:44am

Rough

ExTAFKASoladeo1 said:

What if there was an ATWIAD - SDE? How does this look?? What’s missing? What if it was couple with a remaster of The Family album?? Around The World In A Day Prince & the Revolution Super Deluxe Album 1: Original Album Remaster Around The World In A Day Paisley Park Condition Of The Heart Raspberry Beret Tamborine America Pop Life The Ladder Temptation Album 2: B-Sides/Extended Versions/Alternative Takes/The Vault Hello Hello (Fresh Dance Mix) She’s Always In My Hair She’s Always In My Hair (New Mix) Paisley Park (Instrumental) Paisley Park (Remix) Paisley Park (Single Edit) Pop Life (Single Edit) Pop Life (Extended Version) Pop Life (Fresh Dance Remix) Around The World In A Day (Demo) America (Extended Version) America (Live Music Video Version) Raspberry Beret (1982 Version) Raspberry Beret (Single Edit) Raspberry Beret (12’ Version) Girl Girl (Extended Version) 4 The Tears In Your Eyes

I would love to see that, even if this might be as super and deluxe as SOTT or 1999 because most of the unreleased material would be on PR already or on an upcoming Parade SDE. Most of the stuff Prince recorded between PR and ATWIAD was associated artist stuff, right? The Family, Sheila E...

I would like to add:

She's always in my hair (demo)

4 The Tears in your eyes (2 versions are existing: live and studio)

Boy (Vanity version which is part of Girl (backwards))

The whole The Family album with Prince vocals! --> Nothind compares 2 u -- too stupid it is already released...

The whole Nice show (America video shoot) audio + video

Junk music - the whole instrumental album as a standalone additional release. or maybe it's part of the PArade era? I am not sure

There was no ATWIAD tour - but you could probalbly add live and rehearsal version of ATWIAD songs as performed on the Parade tour!!

WILL BUY. Whatever comes. Of course as a horrend expensive vinyl version.

to not make money with this SD Editions is ridiculous. at the moment looking at the music market this is the ONLY possibility (besides playing live or licensing for advertising, musicals (...) and video streaming platforms (......)) to make money smile look at the back catalogue work of Bob Dylan, David Bowie Neil Young, etc. pp.

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Reply #130 posted 06/10/25 8:08am

mattosgood

Rough said:

ExTAFKASoladeo1 said:

What if there was an ATWIAD - SDE? How does this look?? What’s missing? What if it was couple with a remaster of The Family album?? Around The World In A Day Prince & the Revolution Super Deluxe Album 1: Original Album Remaster Around The World In A Day Paisley Park Condition Of The Heart Raspberry Beret Tamborine America Pop Life The Ladder Temptation Album 2: B-Sides/Extended Versions/Alternative Takes/The Vault Hello Hello (Fresh Dance Mix) She’s Always In My Hair She’s Always In My Hair (New Mix) Paisley Park (Instrumental) Paisley Park (Remix) Paisley Park (Single Edit) Pop Life (Single Edit) Pop Life (Extended Version) Pop Life (Fresh Dance Remix) Around The World In A Day (Demo) America (Extended Version) America (Live Music Video Version) Raspberry Beret (1982 Version) Raspberry Beret (Single Edit) Raspberry Beret (12’ Version) Girl Girl (Extended Version) 4 The Tears In Your Eyes

I would love to see that, even if this might be as super and deluxe as SOTT or 1999 because most of the unreleased material would be on PR already or on an upcoming Parade SDE. Most of the stuff Prince recorded between PR and ATWIAD was associated artist stuff, right? The Family, Sheila E...

I would like to add:

She's always in my hair (demo)

4 The Tears in your eyes (2 versions are existing: live and studio)

Boy (Vanity version which is part of Girl (backwards))

The whole The Family album with Prince vocals! --> Nothind compares 2 u -- too stupid it is already released...

The whole Nice show (America video shoot) audio + video

Junk music - the whole instrumental album as a standalone additional release. or maybe it's part of the PArade era? I am not sure

There was no ATWIAD tour - but you could probalbly add live and rehearsal version of ATWIAD songs as performed on the Parade tour!!

WILL BUY. Whatever comes. Of course as a horrend expensive vinyl version.

to not make money with this SD Editions is ridiculous. at the moment looking at the music market this is the ONLY possibility (besides playing live or licensing for advertising, musicals (...) and video streaming platforms (......)) to make money smile look at the back catalogue work of Bob Dylan, David Bowie Neil Young, etc. pp.

the statement going around about 'SDE's not being profitable' is stupid because it was never said.

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Reply #131 posted 06/10/25 8:09am

fredmagnus

johnpiex said:

They were asked years ago about a PR 40 project, of which they confirmed their intentions to do so. And now they are no longer even talking about it. So until we get some release dates, they’re just “Talkin’ Loud And Sayin’ Nothing.”

Exactly.

Remember the "signature PR40 project" they promised 2 years ago.

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For now, there is nothing concrete.

As usual.

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Reply #132 posted 06/10/25 8:13am

mattosgood

johnpiex said:

They were asked years ago about a PR 40 project, of which they confirmed their intentions to do so. And now they are no longer even talking about it. So until we get some release dates, they’re just “Talkin’ Loud And Sayin’ Nothing.”

Remember, prince himself talked up releases that never happened too... Roadhouse Garden anyone...and so, while I'm not sure of the validity of what your referencing, post the Q&A when i got a chance to speak to Charles Spicer, he said he was not keen on another PR release and it is only the record companies that are pushing for that.

As I've said on other responses, they didn't have to do the Q&A and they took questions from fams, saying what they did say, only creates a rod for their own backs, so have a little faith and we will see in due course.

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Reply #133 posted 06/10/25 8:26am

FJODOR

scififilmnerd said:

mattosgood said:

I don't know where you are getting the above from??

Not once did they say anything about them not being profitable, they did say they weren't bought be younger audiences and are extensive and complicated projetcs to deliver.

It has been said for awhile, even way before the Celebration, in the wake of the D&P SDE. I think they should try less expensive packaging so more people can afford it, like go back to the 1999 SDE style packaging. I don't really care for those big coffeetable books anyway. I just need a booklet that says when the tracks were recorded. biggrin

Speaking of 1999 SDE, wouldn't it be cool if they released a companion CD to it that had the title track with the latin part, original version of Raspberry Beret, Extra Loveable, Lust U Always and all that? They could put a warning sticker on the cover because of the rape lyrics that had the old estate leave the tracks off the initial release. biggrin

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Something like the 1999 SDE box would be wonderful. I don't need anything more.

As for the essays and all the interviews etc in the package, I don't think it serves a
real point anyway and it will date very quickly. Just stick to the facts for the release
itself and only include studio information on the songs.

Leave everything else for andrea's podcast series. Or turn the podcast series into
something more like those "making the album" they used to make for classic albums.



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Reply #134 posted 06/10/25 8:30am

FJODOR

and to call back to the more anal people on here who complained about the size of the
SDE packages not being the same for the different releases, I have to sort of agree.

if they reprint the previous ones anywhere in the future, it would be nice if they could
just repackage the first 3 in the exact same format box. more akind to the 1999 one.

for like 125 per package I would like to collect them all, that would be very cool to get
to collect and have as a keepsake, all of his major albums reissued with all the tracks
from the era and a nice concert.

imagine all those lined up on your shelves, it would be amazing.


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Reply #135 posted 06/10/25 8:30am

mattosgood

scififilmnerd said:

mattosgood said:

I don't know where you are getting the above from??

Not once did they say anything about them not being profitable, they did say they weren't bought be younger audiences and are extensive and complicated projetcs to deliver.

It has been said for awhile, even way before the Celebration, in the wake of the D&P SDE. I think they should try less expensive packaging so more people can afford it, like go back to the 1999 SDE style packaging. I don't really care for those big coffeetable books anyway. I just need a booklet that says when the tracks were recorded. biggrin

Speaking of 1999 SDE, wouldn't it be cool if they released a companion CD to it that had the title track with the latin part, original version of Raspberry Beret, Extra Loveable, Lust U Always and all that? They could put a warning sticker on the cover because of the rape lyrics that had the old estate leave the tracks off the initial release. biggrin

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said by whom?

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Reply #136 posted 06/10/25 8:36am

johnpiex

mattosgood said:



johnpiex said:


They were asked years ago about a PR 40 project, of which they confirmed their intentions to do so. And now they are no longer even talking about it. So until we get some release dates, they’re just “Talkin’ Loud And Sayin’ Nothing.”

Remember,

prince himself talked up releases that never happened too... Roadhouse Garden anyone
...and so, while I'm not sure of the validity of what your referencing, post the Q&A when i got a chance to speak to Charles Spicer, he said he was not keen on another PR release and it is only the record companies that are pushing for that.


As I've said on other responses, they didn't have to do the Q&A and they took questions from fams, saying what they did say, only creates a rod for their own backs, so have a little faith and we will see in due course.



Yes, and some of us expressed our frustration towards Prince’s fickle nature over the years. But the difference is that Prince just so happened to be El Primo - the mad genius at the helm. Whether we liked it or not, we still had to respect the fact that any choices he made were his prerogative, as well as his artistic expression. These guys are not Prince. But they are being paid handsomely to run his business and legacy. Celebrating 40 years of Purple Rain with no release is a significant ball-drop, especially after expressing their intentions to do so. So while the idea of allowing a Q&A is a good one, one would have to be skeptical about any intentions they expressed therein. How about some release dates? A release schedule?
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Reply #137 posted 06/10/25 8:58am

mattosgood

johnpiex said:

mattosgood said:

...and so, while I'm not sure of the validity of what your referencing, post the Q&A when i got a chance to speak to Charles Spicer, he said he was not keen on another PR release and it is only the record companies that are pushing for that.

As I've said on other responses, they didn't have to do the Q&A and they took questions from fams, saying what they did say, only creates a rod for their own backs, so have a little faith and we will see in due course.

Yes, and some of us expressed our frustration towards Prince’s fickle nature over the years. But the difference is that Prince just so happened to be El Primo - the mad genius at the helm. Whether we liked it or not, we still had to respect the fact that any choices he made were his prerogative, as well as his artistic expression. These guys are not Prince. But they are being paid handsomely to run his business and legacy. Celebrating 40 years of Purple Rain with no release is a significant ball-drop, especially after expressing their intentions to do so. So while the idea of allowing a Q&A is a good one, one would have to be skeptical about any intentions they expressed therein. How about some release dates? A release schedule?

I would say it is more than just the Q&A, reading the report is one thing, but witnessing their tone took it further and IMHO they were genuine and they get it, as in what the hardcore fans want.

As to a schedule, patience is a virtue, it will clearly come in due course.

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Reply #138 posted 06/10/25 9:03am

fredmagnus

From what i get (from what has happened since 2022 & from what they said at the panel), this whole process is far too complex for them. It would require people who know how to handle such a huge Estate, people with the right connections, etc...

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Of course, releasing a box set is not easy and that's why there are professionnals entitled to do it.

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For now, they just have shown their incompetence. If it's too hard for them, then just leave it to the ones who know how to do it.

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Reply #139 posted 06/10/25 9:16am

JorisE73

SoulAlive said:

bizzie said:

lol let's see how this goes


No Spike lee or Ava Duvernay. I'll bet it's Questlove with his revisionist history and badly researched bullshit. barf

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Reply #140 posted 06/10/25 11:32am

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https://www.facebook.com/...F6CMbmgBwl

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Unlocking the Vault: Prince's Legacy and Future Plans Revealed

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✍🏽: The Purple Stream

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Minneapolis, MN – June 7, 2025 – On a sunny Saturday at the Lofton Hotel Minneapolis, a packed room of devoted Prince fans gathered for a candid and often impassioned panel discussion titled "The Vault & Future Plans."

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Hosted by WCCO/CB News Minnesota’s Reg Chapman, the event provided a rare direct conversation between the custodians of Prince’s immense legacy and the passionate community that continues to celebrate his genius.

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Chapman opened the discussion with a clear message: "We are Prince’s family. You're going to hear things you like, things you might not like. It's okay to disagree. We are all here to continue Prince's legacy."

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The panel featured Zach Hocheppel, VP of Marketing for Legacy Recording at Sony Music; Johnny Nelson, son of Prince’s brother John R. Nelson; Charles F. Spicer Jr., managing member of Prince Legacy LLC; and Londell McMillan, a close friend of Prince and a dedicated fan. The overriding sentiment was a desire for open dialogue and to genuinely hear from the committed fanbase.

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The Mysteries of The Vault: What’s Inside?

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The conversation quickly turned to the enigmatic “Vault.” Londell McMillan, who described the extensive nature of Prince's creations, highlighted that it contains "not just audio, video but thousands and thousands of all kinds of assets, in multiple formats." He revealed that under Comerica's tenure, the assets were moved from Paisley Park for safety and security reasons—a decision not made by the current Estate. An archiving process began, but after 6-7 years, "only about 45% has been digitised."

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Zach Hocheppel emphasized the monumental scale of the undertaking. "45 years of material... Sony is used to dealing with artists’ legacy/assets but none come close to the magnitude of Prince’s in terms of unreleased and undocumented material."

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He called it "a Herculean enterprise," clarifying that while Sony is a distribution partner, they "don’t lead creative decisions about what to release, when, how to decide which is the most important thing." He stressed the desire to never do anything "willy nilly."

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Johnny Nelson offered a poignant perspective from the family. "The family has access to the vault. It’s like an open diary. Prince videoed/documented everything. It inspires me, makes me grateful. We have to work on this like Prince worked. Family wants music out, but in due time."

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McMillan shared his personal experience regarding the initial removal of assets, stating he represented the family when Comerica made the move. "Sued them initially. Family was not consulted and was aggrieved, disrespected. Didn’t tell the family. It was swept out in two nights. Family didn’t know for three months it had gone. It was not the fact it was done, it was the way it was done." He conceded that the family initially lacked a full understanding of the technical issues but now agrees that the current facility is "the best place, well equipped with all necessary technical equipment to process all the different formats."

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When Will the Music Be Released?

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The pressing question on every fan's mind: when will this music see the light of day?

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Londell McMillan playfully nudged Zach Hocheppel to discuss what has already been released. Hocheppel, who said Sony has been involved since 2018 alongside Warner, listed a string of releases: Originals, Welcome 2 America, and Super Deluxe Editions of 1999, Sign O' the Times, and Diamonds & Pearls. "This would be an entire career's worth of material for most artists," Hocheppel noted, "it’s a drop in the bucket for Prince. So, really it has been a steady stream."

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Charles F. Spicer Jr. detailed the meticulous process of selecting music for release. "It's a group effort to select the music. It’s like a puzzle. Liner notes, artwork… For example, Diamonds & Pearls was 12 LPs, 5 test pressings for each label, so 10 test pressings which go back and forth. It takes time. It’s a complex undertaking. It would not do Prince justice to take a raw tape and put out an unprocessed track."

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McMillan assured fans that their input is valued and that their ideas are considered. While milestones and anniversaries have been guiding factors, he acknowledged recent discussions about "not being so fixed on anniversaries." He explained the complex ownership landscape with "Two major labels: Sony & Warner; two owners of rights: Primary Wave & The Estate," in addition to family input. "Fans got a lot to say. We’re sorry/not sorry if we miss an anniversary."

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Connecting with the Fans

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When asked how fans can contact the Estate, McMillan stated, "They make themselves heard! I’d rather they do that, than not do that." He expressed gratitude for such a passionate fanbase, contrasting it with the perceived lack of such demands for artists like James Brown and Roberta Flack.

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Looking ahead, McMillan announced, "Next year is 2026 so everyone is going to see something from Parade." He also mentioned focusing on Prince's early years with Bobby Z, including a forthcoming book.

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Discussions are also underway regarding the milestone of Emancipation (1996).

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"People want to see Cultural Prince, Advocacy Prince, Fly Prince: lots of Prince’s! We know criticisms come from a good place."

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Charles Spicer Jr. affirmed, "we take your comments and ideas very seriously," a sentiment echoed by Zach Hocheppel, who noted that "no estate listens to fans more than Prince’s. Most adopt a dictatorial approach."

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Protecting and Expanding Prince’s Legacy

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The panel then addressed the crucial challenge of protecting Prince’s legacy while expanding his reach to new generations. Zach Hocheppel highlighted the shift in how young fans access music, primarily through TikTok, and not necessarily through box sets. "Need to get his music where it can be found by new generation. Includes allowing other artists to do lots of work for us—e.g. new artists sharing their discovery of Prince. We have to help that along. New generation has to understand how Prince paved the way for many new artists e.g. Kendrick Lamar wouldn’t be there without Prince."

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Londell McMillan then reminded fans: "Kendrick Lamar is in the vault!" He confirmed that this material hasn't been found or digitised yet. He acknowledged that while the Estate has done a "decent job," Prince "requires greatness. You can’t be great without seeing the whole scope of assets you are working with, the bottom of the well." He cautioned against rushing releases to appease "loud voices," stating, "Pushing too fast will result in releases which are not optimised for Prince’s best legacy. We have to speed up the digitisation process." He acknowledged the challenges, noting, "But there was 6 years before we became involved. Next year, is the tenth year anniversary but you can’t do 10 anniversary albums! Costs production processing all requires lots of time. We are not genies!’ He urged fans to not make unreasonable demands.

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Involving Prince’s Collaborators and Documenting His Story

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The role of Prince’s former collaborators was a key topic. Charles Spicer Jr. stated they are "very instrumental in how we move forward. Their intel will help us create new packages. They were in the recording studio with him. We want authenticity. We need to get them involved as we start putting out new packages."

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Londell McMillan offered a more nuanced view, acknowledging that "Some had issues with Prince. Prince had issues with them. Relationships have to be rebuilt with associated artists, producers musicians. Prince was at a point with some folk where he didn’t care… but we have to! We are rebuilding and reconnecting people."

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He cited successful reconnections, including Morris Day's appearances at Celebration and a brunch with Bobby Z, Wendy & Lisa that led to their performance last year. "We gotta put out Parade. Wendy & Lisa need to be part of this. It takes time."

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McMillan also invited fans to contribute their skills, suggesting that marketers, developers, and branding experts could bring "tremendous value" globally.

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The conversation then turned to the highly anticipated documentaries about Prince. McMillan candidly addressed the decision to stop the Netflix documentary, explaining, "You really want to know why we stopped Netflix? We don’t suffer fools. You will not disrespect Prince. People had axes to grind. They made up false stories, which can be proven to be false."

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He revealed that "We will have an Academy Award-winning director who will be producing not just one but multiple documentaries"

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While he didn’t name the director, he confirmed it was not Spike Lee or Ryan Coogler.

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Johnny Nelson affirmed, "Family agreed Netflix should be shut down."

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McMillan stressed the importance of truthfulness, asserting that while they aren't trying to "sugar coat," they "won’t allow false narratives." He urged fans with social media or podcasts to "hold people accountable for disrespecting Prince," particularly those who "start to take credit for Prince’s work."

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Upcoming Releases and The NPG Music Club’s Return?

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Charles Spicer Jr. confirmed that after the recent release of "Free," the next release will be Around the World in a Day. Londell McMillan added, "We are going to come up with a schedule, a cadence. So it’s more regular." He emphasized a desire to focus not just on large box sets but also "smaller packages and also through our digital service providers regular drops because we have to reach the younger generation."

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When asked about Sony and Warner’s role in expediting releases, Zach Hocheppel stated, "I can speak for Sony. We are commissioned partners. We are here to influence, guide, implement the vision."

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In an exciting reveal, Londell McMillan shared plans to "recreate a version of NPGMusic Club online. Prince was ahead of the curve. He laid the blueprint we just have to follow. He was a genius. We just need to push it forward and modernise it." He envisions a "global network of distribution partners" and a "worldwide Prince global marketing stream," and assured fans who offer their services that contributions would not be for free, with plans to "work out what the economy is."

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Finally, regarding new music, the panel confirmed a musical adaptation of Purple Rain is in the works, emphasising it will be "more than just the songs to tell the story," and "there won’t be any new songs in the musical." However, McMillan teased, "But we intend to sprinkle you guys with singles. We want to do it like Prince did—last thing on a Sunday night you get a new track."

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Londell McMillan concluded the lively discussion by saying, "This has felt good. Like an ‘upfront’ meeting. We need to do more, with other partners involved."

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The panel left fans with a sense of cautious optimism, acknowledging the immense task at hand while reaffirming their dedication to preserving and expanding Prince's unparalleled legacy.

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Now that we have a clearer report, I must say that I don't find any of what was said unreasonable. Now how will it translate into actions, solid releases and a more collaborative effort with the fanbase, IDK, but I will act in good faith and say I welcome those statements.

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Obviously not all of us can spend thousands of dollars and fly halfway across the world to attend such a panel once a year, so I hope other channels of communications will be opened. It's a little early to say much about it, but I know there are some behind the scenes discussions about how to do this from the fans' side. Something will hopefully come out of it.

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In case someone at the Estate is reading this, I think the main issues the fanbase had so far were:

- errors on the releases (unproper restoration, glitches and other sound problems, frankenstein mixes, posthumous tinkering with tracks or tracklists);

- errors or lack of information in the credits (missing or mistaken information: we as a fanbase have a culture of knowledge thanks to the works of Uptown Mag, Per Nielsen and Duane Tudahl among others, we love the music, but we also love knowing who, when, where and how when it comes to recording sessions);

- lack of regularity in the releases: indeed, rushing releases for the sake of releasing things is no proper way to go (PR Deluxe, P&AM83 and Originals proved this), but Prince used to drop a new song here or there all the times (see my chronological discography website to get an idea of the frantic pace of releases!), and I'm glad to see this seems to be understood with the discussion of a NPGMC-type service revival and singles dropping online on a regular basis. It doesn't have to be a full fledged project every month, but a song or EP here and there, with the proper information regarding what it is and when it's from, would make a lot of people happy.

- a lot of official material remains unavailable, particularly when it comes to the side-projects, online releases/streams and broadcast/releases video concerts. This is material that may need some restoration in a some cases, but is more or less ready to go, and while adding new material to the canon contributes to Prince's legacy, making everything he did release in his lifetime available seems just as important IMHO.

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TBH, even if I have to admit I sometimes contributed to it myself, I'm a little tired of all the negativity, so let's hope those olive branch talks of listening to and involving the community are not wishful thinking, and that positive things can come out of it. Some of us are up to it nod

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Reply #141 posted 06/10/25 11:53am

Kares

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mattosgood said:

Kares said:

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Let's just say they hinted at it, or at best, they made a vague promise. But it certainly wasn't an announcement. A product announcement would be "ATWIAD SDE is coming out on 24 October, it will be a 10LP/5CD + 1BR set, and here is the setlist:..." (Hope this won't get quoted, it is just an example. smile)

Not sure if you were there or not, but it was neither a hint nor vague.

The next release will be Around the World in a Day.

I agree more detail is needed but as the @TPS report covers these are sizable and complex projects, involving multiple owners, 2 record companies, 3rd party sign offs and production / marketing logistics and scheduling.

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I wasn't there, but I know a bit about marketing. Of course it's a complex project and requires sign offs by many teams and companies, that's exactly why you don't announce a release until you do have ALL the details. This was NOT an announcement that could go out in a press release. It's just talk at this stage.

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Reply #142 posted 06/10/25 12:15pm

leecaldon

happyshopper said:

"Londell McMillan then reminded fans: "Kendrick Lamar is in the vault!" He confirmed that this material hasn't been found or digitised yet. "

Didn't Kendrick say he visited Paisley Park with the intension of working with Prince on a song, but they never recorded anything? He just did the live stream performance, and that was a last minute surprise.

Also, would the music at that time not have been recorded digitally?

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Reply #143 posted 06/10/25 12:30pm

Kares

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leecaldon said:

happyshopper said:

"Londell McMillan then reminded fans: "Kendrick Lamar is in the vault!" He confirmed that this material hasn't been found or digitised yet. "

Didn't Kendrick say he visited Paisley Park with the intension of working with Prince on a song, but they never recorded anything? He just did the live stream performance, and that was a last minute surprise.

Also, would the music at that time not have been recorded digitally?

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No, he went back to analog tape. (Though in the '90s he used digital tape and PT too.)

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Reply #144 posted 06/10/25 1:03pm

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Reply #145 posted 06/10/25 1:08pm

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MIRvmn1 said:

More info from an attende. "HITnRUN Phase One and Two are being reissued on vinyl, They are looking into a streaming service npgmusicclub that prince supposedly left “blueprints” for, Sony representative mentioned uploading concert footage to Tubi, as it's more profitable for them. Londell also mentioned possible deals with movie theaters to show concert footage. Londell mentioned they want a schedule like 1 big release, 1 mini one and various digital only singles spread throughout" Well lot's of promises. I believe it when I see it.
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That's the same formula that the former administrators had and one they should stick to.

I think the biggest revelation was that only 45% of the vault had been digitized.
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Reply #146 posted 06/10/25 2:59pm

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SoulAlive said:

I agree,if costs are a problem,they should just simplify these SDEs.The 1999 SDE was perfect.We don’t need a big,bloated coffee table book with a lot of unnecessary commentary.Make it simple (and more affordable) like the 1999 SDE!
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I'm with you on that. A series of boxes in the same format as the 1999 SDE would be great, and look fine on the shelf as an expanding library of definive Prince releases. Well,we can dream...
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Reply #147 posted 06/10/25 4:49pm

bozojones

johnpiex said:

They were asked years ago about a PR 40 project, of which they confirmed their intentions to do so. And now they are no longer even talking about it. So until we get some release dates, they’re just “Talkin’ Loud And Sayin’ Nothing.”


Bingo. Lot of folks with goldfish memory around here.
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Reply #148 posted 06/10/25 4:53pm

bozojones

mattosgood said:



johnpiex said:


They were asked years ago about a PR 40 project, of which they confirmed their intentions to do so. And now they are no longer even talking about it. So until we get some release dates, they’re just “Talkin’ Loud And Sayin’ Nothing.”

Remember, prince himself talked up releases that never happened too... Roadhouse Garden anyone...and so, while I'm not sure of the validity of what your referencing, post the Q&A when i got a chance to speak to Charles Spicer, he said he was not keen on another PR release and it is only the record companies that are pushing for that.


As I've said on other responses, they didn't have to do the Q&A and they took questions from fams, saying what they did say, only creates a rod for their own backs, so have a little faith and we will see in due course.



First of all, Prince's fickle nature with projects is hardly something fans loved about the guy, and not something the current estate needs to emulate. Secondly, Prince might have talked about projects that never came to fruition, but at least he always had something new coming out. The estate isn't putting out jack shit, just empty promises for two years in a row and going.
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Reply #149 posted 06/10/25 6:28pm

JoeyCococo

I'd be happy with a remastered Around the World in a Day album. That is a hell of an album and deserves full treatment. The sounds is thin and shitty on CD....no bottom end.

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