So the outcome is that they are saying some positive things.For this I am grateful. I hope that these new plans come to fruition soon.

I find it baffling that there are three reports of this panel so far, and all three differ significantly. What kind of shitshow was that panel?

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Also, to me it sounds like some of the answers to fan questions were all answered in the most positive way possible without actually promising anything. "We're looking into it" is so lame and non-committal.

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The only more or less concrete promise is the November RSD release. I'm sorry, WHAT? What have these bozos been doing since the release of the D&P SDE? And the only announcement is a vague "we're doing something for RSD" which is FIVE FUCKING MONTHS away. That will be NINE MONTHS since the Netflix deal got broken and that's all you've got to show for it?

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Also, I haven't read anything about the outtakes that were played and that "everybody was going to hear again soon". Did no one ask about those?

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It's June 2025 and virtually everything they've talked about is "planned" for 2026? Must be nice to shovel money your way and do fuck all. Meanwhile the three Celebrations they've run have gotten increasingly worse, the one SDE they put out seems to have been a financial disaster.

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Only a guy from Sony was at this panel, and his bright idea was to release videos to fucking Tubi, a US ONLY service -- because fuck all the Prince fans in Europe and elsewhere, right? Where was the guy from Warners, you know, the company that still has the WORLDWIDE rights (excluding USA, except for the movie soundtracks) to the Prince catalog from the glory years? The company that actually put out a Blu-ray audio release of D&P, something Sony couldn't be bothered with?

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A TWO HOUR long panel and all we've gotten is lame promises.

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Also love them saying they're not gonna bother with anniversaries anymore. As if they did that in the past!

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Next year is the tenth anniversary of Prince's death. And we'll have to trust that the clowns who couldn't manage to monetize the 40th anniversary of Purple Rain, will not fuck that up.

Well, to quote you, Bert: "Why do you continue to pretend these incompetent boobs are capable of anything?"

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bozojones said:

bizzie said:

jeffreymiller said:

bozojones said:

So in other words, it was a bunch of vague ideas and empty promises as reported. Londell and Charles could shit on a paper plate and give it to Casey and he'd call it "revolutionary" and "a true honor"

Bahahahaha exactly! What a clown. #gutted

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I do not understand the hate. He is reporting his point of view, he is not a journalist and nobody here is paying for him. If you want to go to the celebration and spend time to tweet your point of view, I'll be happy to read your reports too.

NICKthebrick said:

I would have thought the quickest and most profitable way for them to release the vault material would be via a digital platform. It's encouraging this is at least being considered.

Considering the age group(s) the Princefans belong too, a digital, or streaming only release seems to miss the fact that most of us love a material release. It's debatable on how fancy this should be but having online access I find more than a bit depressing.

bizzie said:

rudeboy4711 said:

bizzie said:

Next year is the tenth anniversary of Prince's death. And we'll have to trust that the clowns who couldn't manage to monetize the 40th anniversary of Purple Rain, will not fuck that up.

No to mention that next year is also when Prince’s earliest studio recordings (Moonsound Studio demos) turn 50! And from there, in 2028 it’s the 50th anniversary of the album that introduced Prince to the world! No big plans for that, no especial release for those early recordings… zip nada zilch! And what’s worrisome is that the earliest recordings will just be collecting dust and becoming lost media… and these clown claim to care about Prince’s legacy

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No, it's way worse: they have to do something with those recordings, otherwise they fall out of copyright. That is why for instance Pink Floyd does these massive dumps of concert recordings etc. in limited editions every once in a while, just to keep those protected for another x amount of years.

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If the estate does nothing with the earliest Prince recordings, you can bet there will be releases of those, because at that point you're not releasing bootlegs but legit releases.

zobilanew said:

andrewm7new said:

So the outcome is that they are saying some positive things.For this I am grateful. I hope that these new plans come to fruition soon.

yep...it's like I say....unless there is an official announcement/press release,release date and pre-order links,do not get excited.They've been giving us empty promises for awhile now.

Farfunknugin said:

They’re clearly punishing the fanbase. No one cares about a ATWIAD release . We’re screwed

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Speak for yourself. That's my number one hope: an SDE like the SOTT set.

GiggityGoo said:

GiggityGoo said:

Farfunknugin said:

They’re clearly punishing the fanbase. No one cares about a ATWIAD release . We’re screwed

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Speak for yourself. That's my number one hope: an SDE like the SOTT set.

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There was a whole goddamn thread about this some weeks ago, and nobody could come up with a list of more than a handful tracks, other than imagining that there must be dozens of unknown tracks despite this being a well-documented era.

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There is no there there. It would be a weak-ass SDE, plus if they include the Prince versions of Family tracks, that would hurt the Parade SDE IMHO.

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Between the release of PR and the start of the Parade sessions there's barely nine months, and the latter half is filled with the PR Tour which meant Prince had barely any studio time.

Honestly, I find it baffling that at this panel they apparently talked about not taking into account anniversaries, while at the same time announcing an ATWIAD expanded release. It's just insanity.

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Who the fuck looks at Prince's 1980s albums and thinks, "you know what would sell a lot? An expanded ATWIAD".

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Parade SDE! Lovesexy SDE! Proper Purple Rain SDE! Dirty Mind SDE!

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We predicted the D&P SDE would be a dud, and look who was right once again. Yes it was a big seller back in the day, but it was immediately forgotten by Prince fans and Prince himself.

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These clowns know nothing about Prince.

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Was there really no one there to ask any critical questions?

how likely is it at this point, that those two clowns calling the shots will (be forced to) step down
and let someone else take the reigns of this enterprise?

honestly, why isn't wb, sony, primary wave or anyone else intervening here?

does everyone else agree then, that these are the two most suited guys to run this show?

and what would it take for them to be replaced?

did anyone ask them about the content of the vault and how far along they are sorting things out?

has everything been documented by now?

has everything been digitized that should be done so to preserve it for the future?

have all the albums been remastered by now, and by whom (grundman/studios one would hope?)

have outtakes been mixed or mastered yet in a chronologic way, or do they master and mix these
only if and when they decide to release something?

what is the process for the live shows? what about the video content?

is everything now in one place and one place only?

how sure are they that what they have now is everything there is/was? were there indeed several
vaults or perhaps even a time capsule with music in it?

have they managed to save everything or were there things beyond saving?

bizzie said:

Only a guy from Sony was at this panel, and his bright idea was to release videos to fucking Tubi, a US ONLY service -- because fuck all the Prince fans in Europe and elsewhere, right? Where was the guy from Warners, you know, the company that still has the WORLDWIDE rights (excluding USA, except for the movie soundtracks) to the Prince catalog from the glory years? The company that actually put out a Blu-ray audio release of D&P, something Sony couldn't be bothered with?

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it wouldn't surprise me at all if the man from sony didn't know that. they don't seem to know anything
these days, except the basic outline of their own job.

seriously, i would not find it even mildly strange that they'd set this whole thing up for Tubi only to then find out at launch that non US fans can't access any of it.

does the official store even ship to europe yet?

It cracks me up that Londell and Charles are being praised for "transparency" and "accessibility" because they gave a single panel to people who had to pay $1400 to attend, most of whom hang on the estate's every word and would never ask thoughtful or hard-hitting questions anyway. If they wanted real dialogue with the fans, they'd hold a public event that was free or affordable to all kinds of fans, not just the well-off sycophants.

That'll never happen though, because Londell and Charles hate anyone who doesn't kiss their asses unconditionally while paying big bucks to do so.

couldn't care less about remasters .. they are all trash .. vinyl never made sense to me .. scratches and pops .. artwork is fun .. put it all in a coffee table book .. give me the lossless unmastered digital files of outtakes and unheard whatever .. live .. practice .. demos .. that should cut down the costs ..

FJODOR said:

bizzie said:

Only a guy from Sony was at this panel, and his bright idea was to release videos to fucking Tubi, a US ONLY service -- because fuck all the Prince fans in Europe and elsewhere, right? Where was the guy from Warners, you know, the company that still has the WORLDWIDE rights (excluding USA, except for the movie soundtracks) to the Prince catalog from the glory years? The company that actually put out a Blu-ray audio release of D&P, something Sony couldn't be bothered with?

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it wouldn't surprise me at all if the man from sony didn't know that. they don't seem to know anything
these days, except the basic outline of their own job.

seriously, i would not find it even mildly strange that they'd set this whole thing up for Tubi only to then find out at launch that non US fans can't access any of it.

does the official store even ship to europe yet?

The official store ships to Europe, yes

Raevene said:

FJODOR said:

it wouldn't surprise me at all if the man from sony didn't know that. they don't seem to know anything
these days, except the basic outline of their own job.

seriously, i would not find it even mildly strange that they'd set this whole thing up for Tubi only to then find out at launch that non US fans can't access any of it.

does the official store even ship to europe yet?

The official store ships to Europe, yes

I actually bothered to check after I posted since I figured Bizzie would tell me
to get a clue and go look it up myself

I can't believe the amount of tshirts and shit they are selling over there

jazzz said:

There is now a fourth report from the panel via Jon Bream from the Star Tribune: https://www.startribune.c.../601369195

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And before someone says "paywall": it's 2025 and you're on the Internet. Do you really think you're the only one with that problem? Do you really think no one has found workarounds?

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Also in the pipeline are a Prince immersive exhibit

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Oh look, something that wasn't mentioned in any other report.

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There have been fewer posthumous musical releases — three albums and four boxed sets — partly because, McMillan said, the appropriate video footage to accompany them has been unavailable since Netflix had first access to them.

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Oh look, once again I was right.

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Calling herself the youngest fan at Prince Celebration, 22-year-old Nina Massenberg of St. Louis asked why not let Prince’s music be sampled by hip-hop artists in order to introduce him to Gen Z.

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JFC.

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McMillan responded with a story about Prince listening to a heavily sampled Notorious B.I.G. song and responding that he’d already heard the original of the sample and why not play instruments?

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Some good news.

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He pointed out that next year is the 10th anniversary of Prince’s passing. “We’ll do big things,” he promised.

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We've heard that before.