bluegangsta said:

bozojones said:

CaseyRain just tweeted:

"Ok so the Vault and Future Plans panel was amazing. We had Londell, Charles, Johnny Nelson and Zach from Sony on the stage and a LOT was discussed: Main takeaways: The Estate wants to get to a much more regular cadence of releases of different sizes Possibility of ATWIAD reissue soon! Piano & A Mic release looks likely along with Parade 10th anniversary Lots of breakdown of their process between Estate and Sony and how they approach things Very transparent and lots of audience questions were answered! Netflix situation discussed at length and we should all be grateful it was canned - the approach was NOT IT and was totally disrespectful to P. Multiple documentaries to come - could be with multiple partners"

"Wants to", "possibility", "looks likely"...

So, after all these years at the helm, Chuck and MakesMillions still have nothing to offer fans, aside from the snide remarks on social media and second-rate merchandise.

These two couldn't raffle a chook in a pub, let alone bring it to market.

Yep. These supposed projects will fall by the wayside just like the supposed Love Symbol, Purple Rain, and Parade SDEs, and the Vault series that never made it past Volume 1. And the usual suspects will chide us for criticizing the estate, while eagerly lining up to kiss Lonnie & Chuckie's asses for another whole year.

MIRvmn1 said:

Around the World In A Day - expanded version sounds interesting

Not surprising that they would choose the album that has the least amount of outtakes

BlueShakooo said:

MIRvmn1 said:

Around the World In A Day - expanded version sounds interesting

I'm so pessimistic now that it sounds to me like: album, single B-sides and the extended versions of Raspberry Beret, Paisley Park and America.

SoulAlive said:

Now now y'all, don't be so pessimistic about the ATWIAD reissue... maybe they'll give us a Dolby Atmos remix on psychedelic swirled vinyl! BIG YEAR!

bozojones said:

Now now y'all, don't be so pessimistic about the ATWIAD reissue... maybe they'll give us a Dolby Atmos remix on psychedelic swirled vinyl! BIG YEAR!

bozojones said:

While an unpopular sentiment, lemme spank SKipper on his skinny ass for having so much blind faith in how The Vault would be taken care of.

Sometimes it drives me mad thinking about how little he cared for his fans.

We fed U at a time nobody would care 4 U, U dumbass!
Buying your shitty Paisley Park productions, Dale Bozzio, Good Question, Taja Sevelle, all these void vessels, and the people behind who felt rightfully betrayed.

Just take a hard look at what the thieves in the temple have done to your Work.

In the end, your fan(m)s are the true heroes in this story, the folks behind all the fabulous underground labels who shared the shit, be the unlistenable audience VG- concerts, be the rarities, all the things you should have taken care of, because this was music that could open the Soul.
And you bragged about it, didn't you ("I am music"): no shit.

We sure are glad to have seen The Dawn, but it's surely a bitter taste to witness a world that keeps on spinning without knowing the joy your music can bring.

I'll keep blasting your tunes at 11 windows open just to proselyte the neighbours, but you owe me, and you owe us all.

Such a let down.

BonnieC said:

While an unpopular sentiment, lemme spank SKipper on his skinny ass for having so much blind faith in how The Vault would be taken care of.

Sometimes it drives me mad thinking about how little he cared for his fans.

We fed U at a time nobody would care 4 U, U dumbass!
Buying your shitty Paisley Park productions, Dale Bozzio, Good Question, Taja Sevelle, all these void vessels, and the people behind who felt rightfully betrayed.

Just take a hard look at what the thieves in the temple have done to your Work.

In the end, your fan(m)s are the true heroes in this story, the folks behind all the fabulous underground labels who shared the shit, be the unlistenable audience VG- concerts, be the rarities, all the things you should have taken care of, because this was music that could open the Soul.
And you bragged about it, didn't you ("I am music"): no shit.

We sure are glad to have seen The Dawn, but it's surely a bitter taste to witness a world that keeps on spinning without knowing the joy your music can bring.

I'll keep blasting your tunes at 11 windows open just to proselyte the neighbours, but you owe me, and you owe us all.

I felt Taja's debut album was solid!

bozojones said:

MIRvmn1 said:

MIRvmn1 said:

More info from an attende. "HITnRUN Phase One and Two are being reissued on vinyl, They are looking into a streaming service npgmusicclub that prince supposedly left “blueprints” for, Sony representative mentioned uploading concert footage to Tubi, as it's more profitable for them. Londell also mentioned possible deals with movie theaters to show concert footage. Londell mentioned they want a schedule like 1 big release, 1 mini one and various digital only singles spread throughout" Well lot's of promises. I believe it when I see it. [Edited 6/7/25 23:35pm]

I agree,I'll believe it when I see it.Tired of empty promises.Unless there's an official announcement,release date and pre-order links,I won't believe anything they say

MIRvmn1 said:

I can't stand Londell and Charles as much as the next guy and given their track record, obviously won't take anything on trust until it's properly announced but, thinking positively:

If they used the ATWIAD release to put out The Family demos (inc Miss Understood, Feline), as well as some of the warehouse rehearsal versions, and stuff like Paisley Park instrumental etc it could fill 1-2 Vault discs. They could also use it as an opportunity to release the 84 birthday show which would make it worthwhile in itself.

playtime92 said:

Farfunknugin said:

playtime92 said:

I can't stand Londell and Charles as much as the next guy and given their track record, obviously won't take anything on trust until it's properly announced but, thinking positively:

If they used the ATWIAD release to put out The Family demos (inc Miss Understood, Feline), as well as some of the warehouse rehearsal versions, and stuff like Paisley Park instrumental etc it could fill 1-2 Vault discs. They could also use it as an opportunity to release the 84 birthday show which would make it worthwhile in itself.

A lot of what if’s there , lol

Sure, like I said I'm always ready to be disappointed by these clowns. But if they're releasing an expanded ATWIAD they must be expanding it with something.

bluegangsta said:

bozojones said:

CaseyRain just tweeted:

"Ok so the Vault and Future Plans panel was amazing. We had Londell, Charles, Johnny Nelson and Zach from Sony on the stage and a LOT was discussed: Main takeaways: The Estate wants to get to a much more regular cadence of releases of different sizes Possibility of ATWIAD reissue soon! Piano & A Mic release looks likely along with Parade 10th anniversary Lots of breakdown of their process between Estate and Sony and how they approach things Very transparent and lots of audience questions were answered! Netflix situation discussed at length and we should all be grateful it was canned - the approach was NOT IT and was totally disrespectful to P. Multiple documentaries to come - could be with multiple partners"

"Wants to", "possibility", "looks likely"...

So, after all these years at the helm, Chuck and MakesMillions still have nothing to offer fans, aside from the snide remarks on social media and second-rate merchandise.

These two couldn't raffle a chook in a pub, let alone bring it to market.

Nonsense. I can make up my mind, thank you. Also, is it telling that no one from Primary Wave was there?

A lot of "if" and a desert of "when" and "what".

For example: if the first release is the RDS in november, when is planned the ATWIAD "expanded" version? In 2026? So, when the Parade anniversary version? 2026 again?

And what means "expanded"? Not an SDE, so only a reissue with the b-side.

And.. they really destroyed the O)-> SE they pressed? Nodoby in the audiace asked about?

databank said:

Those reports are so confusing and contradictory that I don't know what to make of any of it. We're told great things were explained. We're told nothing was explained. Blurry announcements for possible things that make little sense as reported. Maybe there's a reason Marvel get their panels filmed and broadcast at Comic Con, at least everyone knows what was and wasn't said.

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I guess Marvel is a properly run company, unlike the Prince Estate...

bozojones said:

TheEclecticElectric said:

They're sitting on a gold mine. I genuinely don't understand their motivation. It can't just be to piss us off can it?

It doesn't matter what kind of mine they're sitting on; incompetence is incompetence, and their respective egos and clear disdain for fans offer no avenue towards self-reflection or motivation.

Imagine being such a failure in life that you're handed keys to the vault of one of the most famous musicians of all time, and do nothing with it.

Personally, I'll be quite glad to own vinyl copies of HnR Phase 1 & 2. I highly rate HnR2. And I'm glad to hear that ATWIAD and Parade will get some attention too.

The thing that is baffling though is, some of these plans sounds relatively imminent so how come they couldn't commit to articulating a rough timeline at the Celebration? So messy.

One thing I've been saying for years is that the value of the Vault material is diminishing FAST so they need to learn how to move at speed to monetise it more effectively while there are still some ageing hardcore fans living who still care about that stuff. Hopefully it is fairly obvious to all that the market for half-finished demos and such is really limited, as is the market for bloated physical release SDE sets.

I'd go so far as to say... if the entire body of Vault tracks isn't fully available within the next decade or so, they might as well not bother at all. So yes they need to run different parts of the legacy at different cadences - larger releases with greater mass appeal including tentpole documentaries, remastered classic albums etc, that can move at whatever slower pace the market can support, but the vault tracks should follow a subs model (as hard as that is) at a much higher pace. And they can license out famous tracks for ads and TV as another income stream, as they have been doing, Right now there are maybe tens of thousands of fans willing to drop some income on vault stuff, demos, rehearsals etc but will we still be so keen as we start pushing into our retirement years in 15 years time? There are younger fans but fewer in number. The clock is ticking, and loose singles strategy just feeble, drip-feeding individual songs is pathetic.

That's really what I want to see (a) a comprehensive multi-year plan to get all vault material into the hands of the people who still care while we still exist and (b) a clear strategy to preserve, promote and sustain his legacy for the future that doesn't involve significant transformations of the original art.

[Edited 6/8/25 8:01am]

When the estate is complaining about the costprice of producing the SDE's, are they talking about the packaging or the remastering and curating that needs to be done?

I love the massive SOTT box, but in the end my main interest is in the music and then the CD box format of the 1999 SDE works for me. Get a cool fact sheet type booklet in there to give context to the songs and versions and I'll be very happy with that.

They can still produce fancy books about that era but I'm sure leaving those out would reduce the price considerably. Sell those books seperately and they probably can reduce the numbers to be printed as well.

Having Duane Tudahl's books on Prince's recording sessions gives me all I want to know.

And I don't agree with someone's idea here to make certain versions numbered and limited. This type of stuff is even more expensive to make and only interesting for the elitist collectors that want to feel special, but it doesn't serve the bigger Prince fan base.

But as I mentionned above, we're looking at the packaging as a source of the high cost but it could be all the work on the music that is making it so expensive.