From Casey Rain X tweet:

Instrumental Jam
Free Acoustic
Shades of Umber (Studio version)
Ain’t No Way (Prince vocal)
Call Of The Wild
The Question of U (alternate version)
Beatown
A Couple Of Miles
Love Never Has 2 Say Goodbye
The Ladder (soundcheck)

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And, at the and, quote: «Charles mentioned “You will hear these songs again”»

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[Edited 6/6/25 20:52pm]

(...let me dream there is a outtakes compilation with 33 tracks somewhere in the future)

BlueShakooo said:

Oh my God. How disappointed I would be if I had witnessed that. Prince has done so many cool things, and they're presenting THESE TRACKS? Definitely not a good sign for what's to come in the coming years.

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I agree. The best part is the Charles quote. A outtakes compilation coming could make me happy, anyway.

themanfromneptune said:

BlueShakooo said:

Oh my God. How disappointed I would be if I had witnessed that. Prince has done so many cool things, and they're presenting THESE TRACKS? Definitely not a good sign for what's to come in the coming years.

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If I paid $1500 or whatever and I get a mere 45 minutes of unreleased music (not even a full hour) and one of those tracks is a songs they released the day before...

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And some of those otehr tracks are insults as well. JFC tracks that have leaked years before? How the fuck are these people unable to find a dozen obscure tracks from that archive?

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Also, this is now the third Celebration in a row where they played an Aretha Franklin cover?

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themanfromneptune said:

Shade of Humber (Studio version)

Shades of Umber

Doozer said:

themanfromneptune said:

Shade of Humber (Studio version)

Shades of Umber

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Fixed, Thank You

well I guess the positive thing to take away from this is that we poor folk sitting at home
can relax and know that we haven't missed anything exciting.

except perhaps Beatown, as it is the only one I haven't heard.

what a weird selection of tracks that is.

themanfromneptune said:

NICKthebrick said:

I would have been really disappointed with those tracks. Beat town is the only one that excites me. From the descriptions The Question of u version sounds interesting [Edited 6/7/25 8:06am]

Same....i was way more excited with trax played & described last year at the celebration!

if they release anything but album era specific packages with remasters and extra stuff,
the only thing that would be slightly exciting at this point is for them to put out a set of
all the songs they have premiered at the various celebrations until now.

a stand alone release of the songs from this year's celebration only would be seriously
shitty as it is the least exciting set of songs with hardly anything we don't know yet.

knowing them, the all a share 2gether now, 7 alternate and the musicology bsides will
be added to this lot to pad the package out a bit

watch them release this as an album to see if there is a market for outtake releases
and then turn around and say 'response is lacklustre'.

but B Glad 4 What U Got, I know, I know.

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Let's hope they won[t do these bad compiled bootleg like compilations with outtakes and just to era specific archival releases.
Don't let them get 'creative' with the material and let them be presented in a professuional and serious way that Prince's work deserved and not just thrown together tracks from all over the place like another horrible Crystal Ball 98 release that was worse that mpost bootlegs

JorisE73 said:

Let's hope they won[t do these bad compiled bootleg like compilations with outtakes and just to era specific archival releases.
Don't let them get 'creative' with the material and let them be presented in a professuional and serious way that Prince's work deserved and not just thrown together tracks from all over the place like another horrible Crystal Ball 98 release that was worse that mpost bootlegs

the way they are previewing tracks at the celebrations and going on the Vault part 1 tape,
I'd say that is exactly what they are planning to do.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong and will be proven to be full of shit I want nothing more from
the estate than for them to do right by prince and his legacy and at the same time give us
as much music as possible.

JorisE73 said:

I don't honestly mind if they release an outtakes compilation which has some circulating outtakes on it and I would still appreciate it please though, release something

Actually, I'm kind of encouraged by the selection;they seem to be paying attention to soundchecks and jams as well! Sometimes these rougher edges ring truer and are better performances than perfectly polished and mixed multitracks.

JorisE73 said:

Let's hope they won[t do these bad compiled bootleg like compilations with outtakes and just to era specific archival releases.
Don't let them get 'creative' with the material and let them be presented in a professuional and serious way that Prince's work deserved and not just thrown together tracks from all over the place like another horrible Crystal Ball 98 release that was worse that mpost bootlegs

I don't think it'd be the way to go, as I'd favor more thematically cohesive attempts in the spirit of C&D and TV...OF4S, but CB98 had the most wonderful, well thought sequencing: there was much order behind the apparent chaos, and with all due respect, I'm quite surprised that after 27 years, some fans still don't realize this

Back then, it took me maybe about 2 or 3 weeks to realize the tracklist was nowhere as random as it seemed at first and get into the album's groove, so yeah, it required some repeated listens, but 27 years...?

databank said:

JorisE73 said:

Let's hope they won[t do these bad compiled bootleg like compilations with outtakes and just to era specific archival releases.
Don't let them get 'creative' with the material and let them be presented in a professuional and serious way that Prince's work deserved and not just thrown together tracks from all over the place like another horrible Crystal Ball 98 release that was worse that mpost bootlegs

I don't think it'd be the way to go, as I'd favor more thematically cohesive attempts in the spirit of C&D and TV...OF4S, but CB98 had the most wonderful, well thought sequencing: there was much order behind the apparent chaos, and with all due respect, I'm quite surprised that after 27 years, some fans still don't realize this

Back then, it took me maybe about 2 or 3 weeks to realize the tracklist was nowhere as random as it seemed at first and get into the album's groove, so yeah, it required some repeated listens, but 27 years...?

The horrible sound quality didn't help either.
I understand that the sequenceing is good but I much rathewr have it presented in a chronological way with recording details in the liner notes

JorisE73 said:

databank said:

I don't think it'd be the way to go, as I'd favor more thematically cohesive attempts in the spirit of C&D and TV...OF4S, but CB98 had the most wonderful, well thought sequencing: there was much order behind the apparent chaos, and with all due respect, I'm quite surprised that after 27 years, some fans still don't realize this

Back then, it took me maybe about 2 or 3 weeks to realize the tracklist was nowhere as random as it seemed at first and get into the album's groove, so yeah, it required some repeated listens, but 27 years...?

The horrible sound quality didn't help either.
I understand that the sequenceing is good but I much rathewr have it presented in a chronological way with recording details in the liner notes

I must admit I always loved the way it sounds, but I never was much of an audiophile.

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I never tried listening to it in recording order (for as much as we know it), but i suspect it wouldn't work at all as a listening experience. Most of the SDE's outtakes CDs that followed that recipe certainly didn't so far (which is logical: chronological order ain't no artistic thinking, you may just as well throw a dice).

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As for the liner notes I think they were pretty cool as such. Little poetic glimpses of the way Prince perceived those songs. At the time and in the context of him being alive, this was cooler than Alan Leeds or Per Nilsen writing academic liner notes IMHO.

databank said:

JorisE73 said:

The horrible sound quality didn't help either.
I understand that the sequenceing is good but I much rathewr have it presented in a chronological way with recording details in the liner notes

I must admit I always loved the way it sounds, but I never was much of an audiophile.

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I never tried listening to it in recording order (for as much as we know it), but i suspect it wouldn't work at all as a listening experience. Most of the SDE's outtakes CDs that followed that recipe certainly didn't so far (which is logical: chronological order ain't no artistic thinking, you may just as well throw a dice).

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As for the liner notes I think they were pretty cool as such. Little poetic glimpses of the way Prince perceived those songs. At the time and in the context of him being alive, this was cooler than Alan Leeds or Per Nilsen writing academic liner notes IMHO.

The sequencing on Crystal Ball is really very good. And as a relative newbie at the time, especially to unreleased stuff, I was not hyper aware of the different eras the tracks were from.

NICKthebrick said:

I love Crystal Ball I wouldn't be to upset with a similar approach to a vault release series. A release that includes unreleased songs alternate versions and remixes the odd rare previously released track, such as how Prince included Good Love. It gave it a home.

I agree giving a home to orphan songs is great. Being an album listener mostly, the non-album tracks always get a little lost for me.

JorisE73 said:

Let's hope they won[t do these bad compiled bootleg like compilations with outtakes and just to era specific archival releases.
Don't let them get 'creative' with the material and let them be presented in a professuional and serious way that Prince's work deserved and not just thrown together tracks from all over the place like another horrible Crystal Ball 98 release that was worse that mpost bootlegs

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I PRAY for another Crystal Ball. It was more fun and ejoyable than all the boring "archives" stuffed in SDEs.

LOL. A thread discussing unreleased music and it barely made it to a single page.

bizzie said:

LOL. A thread discussing unreleased music and it barely made it to a single page.

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The tracklist was weak

So, just catching up here as I hadn't heard many of these songs before.

A few instrumentals, 2 covers, and all available in very good quality with a simple google search!

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They said to attendees they'd hear these again soon...

I assume "Call of The Wild" and maybe "A Couple of Miles" as part of a Parade release next year?

any word on what "Beatown" is like?

...not even a detailed info on each song