Kares said:

IanRG said:

I always thought a distinguishing feature of a true fam was one who thought everything Prince did was perfect - Not just his music but always defended all his choices. Whilst a fan was more discerning.

As such a "fan" here may be critical of different sounds or eras from their favourite and would strongly criticise each new album. However a "fam" would love each new album.

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That is rubbish. Everyone's free to use whatever words they want to. Paisleyparkgirl is cool.

Thanks

I didn't use the term in a bad way btw.

lurker316 said:

For the record, I hate the term “fam”. It’s super cringe. . .

I don't like the term "fam" either. I think in order to be a true fam, you had to at everything Prince did - even him becoming a... Jehova and making awful albums like Rainbow Children and NEWS and love everyone who were ever in his bands. Yeah, I love a lotta albums from Prince and went to a lotta shows, but I retain the right to be critical. So, me, a fam? No way. I'm a "fan" and proud of it.

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IanRG said:

I always thought a distinguishing feature of a true fam was one who thought everything Prince did was perfect - Not just his music but always defended all his choices. Whilst a fan was more discerning.

As such a "fan" here may be critical of different sounds or eras from their favourite and would strongly criticise each new album. However a "fam" would love each new album.

Yeah, exactly.

EnglishGent2 said:

Ndorphinmachina said:

EnglishGent2 said:

lurker316 said:

Prince called his fans “fams” because he liked to think of them as family, rather than “fans” which is short for fanatics. In other words, “fam” is a term for Prince fans.

The real irony is that only the nuttiest fanatics ever use the term fam.

OT but I hear "fam" a lot in the UK especially over the last 10-15 years.

Also the first time I ever heard anyone use the word "sick" as a synonym for cool was Prince during the Beautiful Strange interview (innerview lol). It's common parlance these days.

Which I think is simply sick fam... As the kids would say

paisleyparkgirl said:

Kares said:

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That is rubbish. Everyone's free to use whatever words they want to. Paisleyparkgirl is cool.

Thanks

I didn't use the term in a bad way btw.

The imagined slight is missing my point.

In answer to your question: "most of the fams were annoyed by his "real music by real musician" schtick. I'm confused because isn't it how it's supposed to be anyway ? I didn't even know some FAMS felt this way"

If what separates a "fam" from a "fan" is their range of discernment then, no, there are no "fams" who felt this way, whether or not this is interpreted in a good or bad way.

With this in mind, there are some fans who seek to find any reason to be annoyed by Prince whenever he made a change or added a style that was different from their favourite style or era. I agree with you that Prince pushing real music by real musicians IS how it is supposed to be. Indeed, whilst the actual term is first attributed to the Musicology period, his pursuit of doing "real" music and working with "real" musicians i.e. seeking to create quality music, is a key signature feature of Prince, his music, and those he tried to work with or use as his inspirations through his career.

I disagree with the person you quoted that Prince would ever consider "real music by real musicians" would ever exclude the use of electronic instruments such as computers and synths. For proof of this just look at the syths and drum machines used by Prince in Musicology itself.

leecaldon said:

flaton said:

leecaldon said:

She turned up for one of the 21 Nights gigs, said the atmosphere was a bit strange, was told that the stage setup meant there wasn't space for her, played the aftershow that night (that I remember) and then left. She wrote about it on her blog. It would be interesting to know more about this.

She send an invoice for the whole month because she cancelled a Japan tour for him. He was not amused and they never worked together again.

She was perfectly entitled to do that, based on what we know. But the whole thing doesn't really add up for me.

JorisE73 said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

I was reading a thread on another forum and most of the fams were annoyed by his "real music by real musician" schtick. I'm confused because isn't it how it's supposed to be anyway ? I didn't even know some FAMS felt this way.

Some of the comments I saw :

"Well said. I also got annoyed with this fixation on ‘real instruments’ during the Musicology era. So elitist and arrogant. This from the man who could make a banger like 777-9311.

I was so happy to see him come back towards electronic instrumentation later in life, which came to full flower with Art Official Age. Also on that album he FINALLY found a co-producer he truly collaborated with."

"also think his experimentation production wise went back wards ..using "real instruments" is overrated IMHO...when u have a studio musician as genius as Prince and what he could do with computers and synths (and with his obv incredible vituosity on guitar bass piano etc)...1999 still sounds like the future to me .each album was a new unique soundscape (Camille, Parade, Lovesexy etc)..?

I'd rather take real musicians that play real instruments than some button pushers to trigger samples.
Him using a co-producers is the reason why AOA sounds like shit

Well, I pretty much love the sound on AOA

Ndorphinmachina said:

homesquid said:

JorisE73 said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

I was reading a thread on another forum and most of the fams were annoyed by his "real music by real musician" schtick. I'm confused because isn't it how it's supposed to be anyway ? I didn't even know some FAMS felt this way.

Some of the comments I saw :

"Well said. I also got annoyed with this fixation on ‘real instruments’ during the Musicology era. So elitist and arrogant. This from the man who could make a banger like 777-9311.

I was so happy to see him come back towards electronic instrumentation later in life, which came to full flower with Art Official Age. Also on that album he FINALLY found a co-producer he truly collaborated with."

"also think his experimentation production wise went back wards ..using "real instruments" is overrated IMHO...when u have a studio musician as genius as Prince and what he could do with computers and synths (and with his obv incredible vituosity on guitar bass piano etc)...1999 still sounds like the future to me .each album was a new unique soundscape (Camille, Parade, Lovesexy etc)..?

I'd rather take real musicians that play real instruments than some button pushers to trigger samples.
Him using a co-producers is the reason why AOA sounds like shit

Also, without real musicians playing real music you wouldn't have anything to sample. FFS

I don't think FAMS had a problem with anything Prince did.