Thread started 05/08/25 12:39pmfruitsalad 

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Interview about the Purple Rain Atmos Mix Paul Sinclair of Super Deluxe Edition has interviewed Chris James about his Purple Rain Atmos Mix. It's an interesting read that hints at some upcoming vault releases...
https://superdeluxeeditio...atmos-mix/ |
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Reply #1 posted 05/08/25 1:35pm
love2thenines2 003 
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fruitsalad said:
Paul Sinclair of Super Deluxe Edition has interviewed Chris James about his Purple Rain Atmos Mix. It's an interesting read that hints at some upcoming vault releases...
https://superdeluxeeditio...atmos-mix/
Working process very interesting with some quote which give hopes for the future ....at least !!!
SDE : What’s next for you, specifically, in terms of Atmos? Even if it’s not Prince, have you got other projects that you’re going to be working on soon?
Chris James
"Yes, there are vault-based Prince projects coming..." |
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Reply #2 posted 05/08/25 2:33pm
bozojones 
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If they finally put out some unreleased music but only in Dolby Atmos instead of its original stereo mix, I swear to god... |
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Reply #3 posted 05/08/25 3:00pm
happyshopper 
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Interesting that the Atmos mix for the film was finished, but I assume not finished in time to be included with the remastered film!!!? 
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Reply #4 posted 05/08/25 3:34pm
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Whether your like the Atmos mixes or not, the interview was refreshingly good, with technical details and information about the whole process. Excellent. |
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Reply #5 posted 05/08/25 3:52pm
love2thenines2 003 
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bozojones said:
If they finally put out some unreleased music but only in Dolby Atmos instead of its original stereo mix, I swear to god...
I don't think if Vault releases finally get out .....these ones will be in atmos format only...Atmos will be an option like a bonus not the main format !! |
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Reply #6 posted 05/08/25 3:53pm
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love2thenines2003 said:
bozojones said:
If they finally put out some unreleased music but only in Dolby Atmos instead of its original stereo mix, I swear to god...
I don't think if Vault releases finally get out .....these ones will be in atmos format only...Atmos will be an option like a bonus not the main format !!
That's what common sense would dictate, but this estate doesn't follow common sense.
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Reply #7 posted 05/08/25 5:58pm
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This dove cried after hearing the atmos mix of "Darling Nikki"... Autopen Signature |
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Reply #8 posted 05/08/25 6:08pm
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P.S. Chris said this about hearing the bass in "When Doves Cry"...:
I listened down maybe once or twice, but then I don’t want to get it in my head. A situation where you then hear it, even if it’s not there. But in that case, it was an Oberheim synth bass that was doing, like 16th notes, and it reminded me of Eurythmics which, ironically, was the hit at the beginning of that year, [Chris is likely referring to ‘Here Comes The Rain Again’] so that would make sense… why muted it.
Autopen Signature |
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Reply #9 posted 05/10/25 7:08am
Vannormal 
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nayroo2002 said:
P.S. Chris said this about hearing the bass in "When Doves Cry"...:
I listened down maybe once or twice, but then I don’t want to get it in my head. A situation where you then hear it, even if it’s not there. But in that case, it was an Oberheim synth bass that was doing, like 16th notes, and it reminded me of Eurythmics which, ironically, was the hit at the beginning of that year, [Chris is likely referring to ‘Here Comes The Rain Again’] so that would make sense… why muted it.
More or less like in "I Would Die 4 U" then ? "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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Reply #10 posted 05/10/25 9:33am
love2thenines2 003 
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Vannormal said:
nayroo2002 said:
P.S. Chris said this about hearing the bass in "When Doves Cry"...:
I listened down maybe once or twice, but then I don’t want to get it in my head. A situation where you then hear it, even if it’s not there. But in that case, it was an Oberheim synth bass that was doing, like 16th notes, and it reminded me of Eurythmics which, ironically, was the hit at the beginning of that year, [Chris is likely referring to ‘Here Comes The Rain Again’] so that would make sense… why muted it.
More or less like in "I Would Die 4 U" then ? Or traffic jam written in the same time or so of WDC! |
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Reply #11 posted 05/12/25 9:41am
Vannormal 
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love2thenines2003 said:
Vannormal said:
More or less like in "I Would Die 4 U" then ?
Or traffic jam written in the same time or so of WDC!
... and "Stand Back" ... "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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Reply #12 posted 05/12/25 6:30pm
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Yeah, yeah, yeah... The point is, there was no funk bass on "When Doves Cry" like many were thinking. It's just a synth. And just like Chris mentioned, he didn't want to really hear all the tracks in fear of never "un-hearing" it. I agree 100%. Autopen Signature |
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Reply #13 posted 05/13/25 7:19pm
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nayroo2002 said:
Yeah, yeah, yeah... And just like Chris mentioned, he didn't want to really hear all the tracks in fear of never "un-hearing" it. I agree 100%.
I'd still like to hear it. Even if I only listened twice like Chris did. |
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Reply #14 posted 05/14/25 8:22am
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nayroo2002 said:
Yeah, yeah, yeah... The point is, there was no funk bass on "When Doves Cry" like many were thinking. It's just a synth. And just like Chris mentioned, he didn't want to really hear all the tracks in fear of never "un-hearing" it. I agree 100%.
I understand his approach. His goal, whether we think he succeeded or not, was to create a mix that was close to the original stereo mix. In this regard, it makes sense to focus only on the tracks (from the multitrack) that were actually used for that original mix. Creating a new mix and trying to make it as similar as possible to an existing one must be incredibly difficult. Again: I'm not judging the result, just commenting on the process.
Now for us, listeners, I think we should be perfectly able to listen to different versions of a song and decide if we find them interesting or not, if we like them or not, etc.
The horns version of "The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker" hasn't ruined my experience of listening to the original version. So I'm curious to hear that "synth bass" version of "When Doves Cry". Am I going to be underwhelmed? Maybe. But it doesn't matter. I'm still curious.
Now you could say that hearing the non-fade-out version of "Crucial" on bootlegs has kind of ruined my experience of hearing the edited version on "Crystal Ball", but that's another question. 
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Reply #15 posted 05/14/25 10:09am
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happyshopper said:
Interesting that the Atmos mix for the film was finished, but I assume not finished in time to be included with the remastered film!!!? 
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Have you tried reading the article instead of guessing? |
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Reply #17 posted 05/14/25 1:05pm
happyshopper 
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bizzie said:
happyshopper said:
Interesting that the Atmos mix for the film was finished, but I assume not finished in time to be included with the remastered film!!!? 
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Have you tried reading the article instead of guessing?
Well, he says they ran out of time.
But as he wasn’t involved in the deal he wouldn’t know if the mix was going to be delivered too late, or whether a deal couldn’t be reached in time.
Either way, the Estate fucked it.
[Edited 5/14/25 13:05pm][Edited 5/14/25 13:06pm] |
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Reply #18 posted 05/14/25 9:18pm
fruitsalad 

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olb99 said:
The horns version of "The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker" hasn't ruined my experience of listening to the original version. So I'm curious to hear that "synth bass" version of "When Doves Cry".
Exactly. Jiust like the "sitar" version of Strange Relationship doesn't diminish our appreciation of the original release.
But I guess the bass version of When Doves Cry never leaked, at least to my knowledge. And the vast majority of leaks were by Prince himself back in the day. I expect he didn't think it worthy – it's such perfect production as-is. But as he didn't erase it from the multitrack, I'd still like to hear a mix, particularly if Prince completed one himself. But ultimately, it's probably bootleg quality music in most respects. Maybe someone at the @Estate could use that idea and sneak it out... |
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Reply #19 posted 05/25/25 9:09pm
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As well as the technical details and (possible) future vault releases being worked on, what struck me was how long Chris worked on this project: about 1/2 a year. No wonder things are taking along time to get out. There may or may not be something coming! |
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