https://www.youtube.com/w...nel=djvlad


i still can't get over some of these comments here tho.

FJODOR said:

https://www.youtube.com/w...nel=djvlad


i still can't get over some of these comments here tho.

I think that interview was unfortunate

@Tchisaii I won't go into more details because it's not my place, but some behind the scenes discussions suggest that after all, Prince may indeed have been involved in Sunshine Of My Life (not the other tracks, though). I remain very careful because what I read isn't specific enough to be definitive evidence IMHO, but it suggests you may have been right after all. If so, kudos for bringing this discussion back into the forefront. Hopefully, we'll get more info at a later date

Tchisaii said:

Maybe if people were less categorical in how they express their disagreement, it would make their interlocutor less inclined to mock them ?

You're being categorical in how you express your position, which makes people inclined to mock you. Don't you see that it's a two-way street? A feedback loop? If you want people to be more open minded about your opinion, you need to be more open minded about theirs.

JorisE73 said:

SoulAlive said:

I don't think Prince has anything to do with these tracks,but I really hope that Chaka finally releases the Dare You To Love Me album someday soon.It's a strong collection of songs and shame on Warners for rejecting this project back in 1995! These are truly some of her best songs.

Back in the early 2000s a wellknown former orger said Sunshine Of My Life was a track he worked on in the 90s for Chaka Khan and Prince. of course nobody believed him until we heard the track finally

Who are you talking about please tell me Joris ? I asked Morris Hayes about it but he didn't replied.

lurker316 said:

Tchisaii said:

Maybe if people were less categorical in how they express their disagreement, it would make their interlocutor less inclined to mock them ?

You're being categorical in how you express your position, which makes people inclined to mock you. Don't you see that it's a two-way street? A feedback loop? If you want people to be more open minded about your opinion, you need to be more open minded about theirs.

kitbradley said:

I take this with a grain of salt. Chaka promised a jazz album and a rock album back in the 90s that Im still waiting for. Not to mention an album that was promised about 20 years ago that was supposed to feature collabs with Jill Scott and Charlie Wilson. Oh and there was the Joni Mitchell Tribute album. Now she is talking about the unreleased Prince songs and a box set that is supposed to feature unreleased songs from her Warner years. Chaka may mean well but unless she is working with a label who will help her get the stuff out there, its all just wishful thinking on her part.

Also,just a few years ago,we were waiting for a new album called 'A Woman Like Me' which never materialized I know it's VERY difficult for old school artists to release stuff but like you say,unless she is working with a (supportive and enthusiastic) major label,it's very likely that this will be yet another project that doesn't see the light of day.

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Tchisaii said:

JorisE73 said:

Back in the early 2000s a wellknown former orger said Sunshine Of My Life was a track he worked on in the 90s for Chaka Khan and Prince. of course nobody believed him until we heard the track finally

Who are you talking about please tell me Joris ? I asked Morris Hayes about it but he didn't replied.

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[Edited 4/15/25 14:05pm]

Ndorphinmachina said:

Even if Chaka owns the rights to "Come 2 my house" she wouldn't necessarily own the rights to any outtakes or other songs they recorded together, either before during or after the new power pack period. Right? Why would the estate bother negotiating with her to release something with a fairly limited appeal, that's likely to sell less than an actual Prince album? I love her voice but, what's their incentive? Put out a Chaka Khan album and get half the profits? Or put out a Prince album and keep all the Profit? I know Spicer likes to talk like he's a big time music mogul with big plans for his big ideas, but they're currently trying to charge people a grand to go and make origami doves at Paisley Park for a weekend. And have to supply Netflix with millions of dollars worth of content... Not a chance they're going to try and sell a Chaka Khan album.

This rationale convinced me it's happening now, actually.

If The Estate lives in the kind of world where they believe 'Purple Rain' was Prince's sole opus Chaka Khan is probably a happening fad in that same world.

Out of all his proteges, too, Spicer probably went down the list and was like "who? who? who? waitaminute CHAKA?! McMillions call the pressing plant!"

Chaka Khan was not a Prince protege. I was a fan of her when I was a kid in the 70s before I ever heard of Prince...

purplethunder3121 said:

Chaka Khan was not a Prince protege. I was a fan of her when I was a kid in the 70s before I ever heard of Prince...

Prince was more a protege of Chaka Khan than the other qway around

IDK if the term "protégé" applies to elder artists, but 1/ Larry and Chaka were effectively on Prince's label and produced by him and 2/ Prince headlined the 1998 tour while they were opening for him (and his fame and sales figures beat theirs by far, even at the time and even including Sly & The Family Stones and Rufus into the equation), so I guess in a way they were temporary protégés, same as Mavis Staples in 89-93.

WhisperingDandelions said:

JorisE73 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Chaka Khan was not a Prince protege. I was a fan of her when I was a kid in the 70s before I ever heard of Prince...

Prince was more a protege of Chaka Khan than the other qway around

databank said:

IDK if the term "protégé" applies to elder artists, but 1/ Larry and Chaka were effectively on Prince's label and produced by him and 2/ Prince headlined the 1998 tour while they were opening for him (and his fame and sales figures beat theirs by far, even at the time and even including Sly & The Family Stones and Rufus into the equation), so I guess in a way they were temporary protégés, same as Mavis Staples in 89-93.

thx bruh.

you all know what I meant.

Anyway it was stated outright to be a hypothetical from a Charles Spicer perspective so the "character" of Spicer considers Chaka a Prince protege.

I'm well aware Chaka came first. But like databank states, even for that one singular Paisley Par LP you could even consider George Clinton a "protege".

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WhisperingDandelions said:

databank said:

IDK if the term "protégé" applies to elder artists, but 1/ Larry and Chaka were effectively on Prince's label and produced by him and 2/ Prince headlined the 1998 tour while they were opening for him (and his fame and sales figures beat theirs by far, even at the time and even including Sly & The Family Stones and Rufus into the equation), so I guess in a way they were temporary protégés, same as Mavis Staples in 89-93.

thx bruh.

you all know what I meant.

Anyway it was stated outright to be a hypothetical from a Charles Spicer perspective so the "character" of Spicer considers Chaka a Prince protege.

I'm well aware Chaka came first. But like databank states, even for that one singular Paisley Par LP you could even consider George Clinton a "protege".

[Edited 4/16/25 22:14pm]

I guess, too, though when it comes to George, Prince's musical involvement was non-existent (on TCT) to minimal (on HMSMF), but yeah I guess signing someone on your label makes them a protégé of sorts.

I thought Prince said in an interview that he just let them use his studio but he wasn't really getting all that involved in the projects as far as creating the songs goes. Not sure that qualifies as proteges anyway u slice it ...

Chaka Khan only a protege... This album and the ones before with Rufus still sound so good on vinyl...

[Edited 4/19/25 6:52am]

Wow, I can't believe it has been so long since this album came out--1975!--made me a Chaka Khan fan and probably Prince, too... Listening to the old vinyl now....