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Reply #30 posted 04/01/25 10:59pm

happyshopper

ATWIAD now being used in their latest social posts, and mentioning its anniversary… Just sayin’.
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Reply #31 posted 04/02/25 12:07am

bozojones

happyshopper said:

ATWIAD now being used in their latest social posts, and mentioning its anniversary… Just sayin’.


They've been playing the Purple Rain Anniversary card for an entire year now and haven't released anything actually new, so don't hold your breath for any kind of ATWIAD-related material

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Reply #32 posted 04/02/25 1:52am

TrivialPursuit

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rap said:

Isn't that just speculation though?


Not...really. No. They were both leaked to exist at the same time.

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Reply #33 posted 04/02/25 7:13am

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rap said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Possibly Purple Rain. But more likely a Parade SDE toward the end of the year or early 2026. An SDE for ATWIAD would be nice, but there's so much cross-pollenation in 85/86, I think a lot of the extras are going to be on Parade.

I said a while back that D&P and Parade SDEs were done and on the shelf. D&P has since come out. So...

Isn't that just speculation though?

No. There are Howe quotes.

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Reply #34 posted 04/02/25 12:09pm

love2thenines2
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WhisperingDandelions said:



rap said:




TrivialPursuit said:


Possibly Purple Rain. But more likely a Parade SDE toward the end of the year or early 2026. An SDE for ATWIAD would be nice, but there's so much cross-pollenation in 85/86, I think a lot of the extras are going to be on Parade.

I said a while back that D&P and Parade SDEs were done and on the shelf. D&P has since come out. So...




Isn't that just speculation though?



No. There are Howe quotes.




Where? Never confirmed that a project of Parade SDE was finalised...denied by Mathieu Bitton ..fan and one of the person who worked for the Estate during Comerica Era!
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Reply #35 posted 04/02/25 3:13pm

happyshopper

As far as I heard the Parade SDE was worked on but not finalised.
Fingers crossed for its 40th Anniversary next year.
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Reply #36 posted 04/02/25 5:04pm

TrivialPursuit

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happyshopper said:

As far as I heard the Parade SDE was worked on but not finalised. Fingers crossed for its 40th Anniversary next year.


They'd be foolish to not plan that release early next year. March 2026, release a special single, and open pre-orders for the set. 4 or 5 disks including the album, 12" singles, etc etc. The DVD needs to be anything except that Cobo Hall show, which we've seen over and over.

The Le Zenith show is the best option, because of "It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night." The show is so good anyway. I remember the Funky Party 2nite bootleg (wasn't that the name of it?).

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Reply #37 posted 04/02/25 5:14pm

RODSERLING

Parade SDE wasn't "ready" at all during Howe's time.

He was working on the Black album/ Camille/ Crystal Ball /Lovesexy era and wanted to do a project about that, but it never came to fruition. Camille and Crystal Ball were scheduled for SOTT SDE, but it was deemed too expensive for inclusion on vinyl.

Parade is highly unlikely, because the estate made it clear from the start these SDE were too costly to produce. The more time passes by, the less potential sales are, let's face it.
They could have released Symbol SDE as a companion for D&P last year, but they were disappointed by the return on investment.

Moreover, there seem to have legal entanglements with these WB soundtracks, or else you can bet that Howe would have worked closely on Parade instead of, say, D&P.
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Reply #38 posted 04/02/25 5:32pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



happyshopper said:


As far as I heard the Parade SDE was worked on but not finalised. Fingers crossed for its 40th Anniversary next year.


They'd be foolish to not plan that release early next year. March 2026, release a special single, and open pre-orders for the set. 4 or 5 disks including the album, 12" singles, etc etc. The DVD needs to be anything except that Cobo Hall show, which we've seen over and over.

The Le Zenith show is the best option, because of "It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night." The show is so good anyway. I remember the Funky Party 2nite bootleg (wasn't that the name of it?).


Agree with you for the Paris show (my first concert : wow !!!!).
Regarding the Cobo show : we know only the edited version...
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Reply #39 posted 04/02/25 6:35pm

HardtoGet

love2thenines2003 said:

HardtoGet said:

but nothing is pouring out !!

why even make that statement ?

[Edited 3/28/25 18:43pm]

"The vault may be opened ..."

Where is this statement ?? lol

sorry i got the statement wrong ... but it still counts

The Vault Has Been Freed. #FREE

From Prince official channel on youtube

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Reply #40 posted 04/02/25 7:50pm

love2thenines2
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HardtoGet said:



love2thenines2003 said:




HardtoGet said:


but nothing is pouring out !!



why even make that statement ?


[Edited 3/28/25 18:43pm]





"The vault may be opened ..."



Where is this statement ?? lol




sorry i got the statement wrong ... but it still counts



The Vault Has Been Freed. #FREE



From Prince official channel on youtube





Freed nope...but frozen...yep !
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Reply #41 posted 04/02/25 8:14pm

purplethunder3
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love2thenines2003 said:

HardtoGet said:

sorry i got the statement wrong ... but it still counts

The Vault Has Been Freed. #FREE

From Prince official channel on youtube

Freed nope...but frozen...yep !

blunt

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #42 posted 04/02/25 9:11pm

rap

HardtoGet said:

love2thenines2003 said:

"The vault may be opened ..."

Where is this statement ?? lol

sorry i got the statement wrong ... but it still counts

The Vault Has Been Freed. #FREE

From Prince official channel on youtube

To my understanding, McMillan and Co are not in control of the vault material. Correct?

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Reply #43 posted 04/02/25 9:40pm

rap

TrivialPursuit said:

happyshopper said:

As far as I heard the Parade SDE was worked on but not finalised. Fingers crossed for its 40th Anniversary next year.


They'd be foolish to not plan that release early next year. March 2026, release a special single, and open pre-orders for the set. 4 or 5 disks including the album, 12" singles, etc etc. The DVD needs to be anything except that Cobo Hall show, which we've seen over and over.

The Le Zenith show is the best option, because of "It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night." The show is so good anyway. I remember the Funky Party 2nite bootleg (wasn't that the name of it?).

I am aware that there is a fan-made version. Did Prince film it professionally?

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Reply #44 posted 04/02/25 10:24pm

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RODSERLING said:

Parade SDE wasn't "ready" at all during Howe's time.

He was working on the Black album/ Camille/ Crystal Ball /Lovesexy era and wanted to do a project about that, but it never came to fruition. Camille and Crystal Ball were scheduled for SOTT SDE, but it was deemed too expensive for inclusion on vinyl.

Parade is highly unlikely, because the estate made it clear from the start these SDE were too costly to produce. The more time passes by, the less potential sales are, let's face it.
They could have released Symbol SDE as a companion for D&P last year, but they were disappointed by the return on investment.

Moreover, there seem to have legal entanglements with these WB soundtracks, or else you can bet that Howe would have worked closely on Parade instead of, say, D&P.

The estate should create a streaming and download site where all songs that don't get a major release are available. That way they wouldn’t need to release the prince SDE but they could just put the vault tracks on that platform instead.
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Reply #45 posted 04/03/25 5:56am

Trufunksoulja

rap said:

To my understanding, McMillan and Co are not in control of the vault material. Correct?

The Estate is in control of the Vault material.


Which is split into two entities each owning around 50%.

1. Prince Legacy LLC -> McMillions & Spicer (majority stakeholder)

2. Primary wave


Currently (Oct. 2024), both Primary Wave and Prince Legacy LLC oversee the Estate of Prince, with each owning around 50% of it.

Prince Legacy LLC owns a slightly larger share of Prince’s estate than Primary Wave, making it the majority stakeholder.


source:

https://keystone-law.com/prince-estate-battle-explained#:~:text=How%20Was%20Prince's%20Estate%20Divided,sister%20and%20five%20half%2Dsiblings.

[Edited 4/3/25 9:34am]

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Reply #46 posted 04/03/25 10:13am

happyshopper

TrivialPursuit said:

happyshopper said:

As far as I heard the Parade SDE was worked on but not finalised. Fingers crossed for its 40th Anniversary next year.


The DVD needs to be anything except that Cobo Hall show, which we've seen over and over.

I think it would be a wasted opportunity not to include a remastered Cobo Hall Bluray.

Was the TV version we have cut short? Maybe there's a longer version with the missing songs?

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Reply #47 posted 04/03/25 1:13pm

Ramzoo

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happyshopper said:



TrivialPursuit said:




happyshopper said:


As far as I heard the Parade SDE was worked on but not finalised. Fingers crossed for its 40th Anniversary next year.


The DVD needs to be anything except that Cobo Hall show, which we've seen over and over.




I think it would be a wasted opportunity not to include a remastered Cobo Hall Bluray.


Was the TV version we have cut short? Maybe there's a longer version with the missing songs?



That's what I highlighted above "Regarding the Cobo show : we know only the edited version...".
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Reply #48 posted 04/03/25 5:42pm

thenewfunkystu
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Ramzoo said:

happyshopper said:



TrivialPursuit said:




happyshopper said:


As far as I heard the Parade SDE was worked on but not finalised. Fingers crossed for its 40th Anniversary next year.


The DVD needs to be anything except that Cobo Hall show, which we've seen over and over.




I think it would be a wasted opportunity not to include a remastered Cobo Hall Bluray.


Was the TV version we have cut short? Maybe there's a longer version with the missing songs?


That's what I highlighted above "Regarding the Cobo show : we know only the edited version...".



Exactly. I‘m pretty sure there must be an unedited = complete version of that show. Maybe including support act Mazarati. I’ve wanted to see/own that for decades.
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Reply #49 posted 04/03/25 7:13pm

FJODOR

meanwhile springsteen is releasing Tracks II - The Lost Albums in june,
comprising of 82 unreleased studio tracks recorded from 83-18.

on top of the gazillion live albums he's already released through his site,
many of which are also on streaming.

yet the prince estate keeps thinking we don't need that much material
as it would somehow 'oversaturate the market'.

at this point I don't want 1 SDE.

I want, for starters, a box of all the songs he recorded with 3rd Eye Girl,
which is reported to be about 100 tracks.

Give us that to start chewing on, then start promoting the next SDE.

Then release a box of about 100 unreleased instrumentals.

Followed by the next SDE.

Meanwhile, set up a download section on the official site and just start
releasing live shows once a month. (full shows, after shows etc)

But no, we are sat here waiting for news on 1 possible release this year.

And if we're very lucky we will get the LoveSymbol sde, which will keep
most of us satisfied for about 3 months max given that it doesn't offer
anything super amazing to start with.






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Reply #50 posted 04/03/25 7:41pm

FJODOR

on pre-ordering Springsteen's "Tracks II" box I found out that it is actually

seven complete albums, totally unreleased.

i'm over the moon with this news.

throwing a side eye at "welcome 2 america", an unreleased album with some
of it's parts missing and others added in.


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Reply #51 posted 04/03/25 9:55pm

MIRvmn1

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FJODOR said:

meanwhile springsteen is releasing Tracks II - The Lost Albums in june,
comprising of 82 unreleased studio tracks recorded from 83-18.

on top of the gazillion live albums he's already released through his site,
many of which are also on streaming.

yet the prince estate keeps thinking we don't need that much material
as it would somehow 'oversaturate the market'.

at this point I don't want 1 SDE.

I want, for starters, a box of all the songs he recorded with 3rd Eye Girl,
which is reported to be about 100 tracks.

Give us that to start chewing on, then start promoting the next SDE.

Then release a box of about 100 unreleased instrumentals.

Followed by the next SDE.

Meanwhile, set up a download section on the official site and just start
releasing live shows once a month. (full shows, after shows etc)

But no, we are sat here waiting for news on 1 possible release this year.

And if we're very lucky we will get the LoveSymbol sde, which will keep
most of us satisfied for about 3 months max given that it doesn't offer
anything super amazing to start with.







Yeah the estate could release so much more cuz there’s tons of material in the now 'freed' vault. But instead we’re lucky if we get even one release a year when it really should be two or three.
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Reply #52 posted 04/03/25 10:31pm

SoulAlive

yeah I heard about that Bruce Springsteen set.The Prince estate could easily do something like that with Prince’s recordings,but they seem so clueless and uninterested mad
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Reply #53 posted 04/03/25 10:40pm

Gooddoctor23

SoulAlive said:

yeah I heard about that Bruce Springsteen set.The Prince estate could easily do something like that with Prince’s recordings,but they seem so clueless and uninterested mad

On that note, WTF is Primary Wave doing?

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Reply #54 posted 04/04/25 9:55am

Mindbells9

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TrivialPursuit said:



happyshopper said:


As far as I heard the Parade SDE was worked on but not finalised. Fingers crossed for its 40th Anniversary next year.


They'd be foolish to not plan that release early next year. March 2026, release a special single, and open pre-orders for the set. 4 or 5 disks including the album, 12" singles, etc etc. The DVD needs to be anything except that Cobo Hall show, which we've seen over and over.

The Le Zenith show is the best option, because of "It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night." The show is so good anyway. I remember the Funky Party 2nite bootleg (wasn't that the name of it?).



I'm hoping and praying it's the Cobo Hall DVD, but the full unedited show.
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Reply #55 posted 04/04/25 11:10pm

rap

Gooddoctor23 said:

SoulAlive said:

yeah I heard about that Bruce Springsteen set.The Prince estate could easily do something like that with Prince’s recordings,but they seem so clueless and uninterested mad

On that note, WTF is Primary Wave doing?

They're taking a back seat while McMillan and Co cause generational harm to the Prince Estate and his legacy.

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Reply #56 posted 04/05/25 7:02am

SoulAlive

Having assembled the exhaustive Diamonds And Pearls boxset, will Prince's estate celebrate next year's 40th anniversary of Purple Rain? The album was expanded in 2015, but hasn't had the full deluxe treatment.

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"Of course," agrees Charles F Spicer Jr. "We'd be remiss if we didn't do something around Purple Rain next year, for both the film and the album. It's the work that elevated Prince to greatness, so we won't leave 2024 without doing justice to Purple Rain. That's a signature project."

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Spicer is also determined that Prince's later albums will start to see similar deluxe treatment, explaining: "There's most certainly going to be super deluxe sets of Prince's later music. He was always creating, and there's so much music that we've got a lot of happy work on our hands to figure out how to release it all."

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For the first time, some of the other artists who released albums on Prince's Paisley Park label will also see their albums reissued, some of which have been long out of print, such as Jill Jones.

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Spicer reveals: "There's a great possibility that music will get released. There's so much to plan, and we need fans' patience to help make it happen. But this is the 25th anniversary of Chaka Khan's album which she made with Prince, Come 2 My House. That's being re-released this year, for example."

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Reply #57 posted 04/05/25 7:03am

SoulAlive

promises,promises bored

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Reply #58 posted 04/05/25 7:36am

love2thenines2
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SoulAlive said:

promises,promises bored



Well.....it depends of so much of what's going on behind the scene...There is a hard push back from PW for the project presented by MC Millan team!
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Reply #59 posted 04/05/25 7:49am

SoulAlive

love2thenines2003 said:

SoulAlive said:

promises,promises bored

Well.....it depends of so much of what's going on behind the scene...There is a hard push back from PW for the project presented by MC Millan team!

and what project is that?

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