Thread started 01/02/25 3:50amlustmealways
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"Prince Documentary: Coming 2026/2027" Official outlook from the estate themselves. From the outside looking in it would appear that everything that can be nebulous is nebulous and that perhaps they themselves have no clue what actually is happening - thus leaving them having already thrown in the towel on a prospective 2025 date before the year has even started while hedging their bets by leaving not one, but TWO entire calandar years on the table.
It probably also looks like that from the inside looking out, if I were to guess. [Edited 1/2/25 3:50am] |
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Reply #1 posted 01/02/25 4:18am
pdiddy2011
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I don't know whether the doc is coming during that span or not, but the LUTHER VANDROSS doc that dropped on CNN tonight sets a very high bar. What an absolutely touching documentary. The estate might want to reach out to Jamie Foxx and others who produced it. |
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Reply #2 posted 01/02/25 5:59pm
MIRvmn1
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It's possible that the Netflix documentary will be released and they have reached an agreement. I hope that's the case so we can move on. U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
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Reply #3 posted 01/02/25 10:44pm
bozojones
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MIRvmn1 said:
It's possible that the Netflix documentary will be released and they have reached an agreement. I hope that's the case so we can move on.
If they reached an agreement, it surely wouldn't take an entire 1-2 years to get this documentary out. |
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Reply #4 posted 01/03/25 1:13am
Reply #5 posted 01/03/25 7:27am
Trufunksoulja
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Is there an official statement from The Estate, link?
Seems to me that release date was: never |
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Reply #6 posted 01/03/25 11:18am
CandaceS
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"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 |
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Reply #7 posted 01/03/25 3:14pm
Mindbells9
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My guess is they're either going to do their own documentary to counter the claims made in the Netflix documentary, or they're hoping to get the Netflix doc canned altogether so they can start from scratch with a new director and tell his story in a way that they feel won't do any harm towards his legacy and the Prince brand. |
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Reply #8 posted 01/03/25 5:54pm
nayroo2002
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If Edelman changed the name to "The Book of ", he could shop it around to other streaming sevices to avoid the current contract "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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Reply #9 posted 01/04/25 2:35am
paisleyparkgir l
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MIRvmn1 said:
It's possible that the Netflix documentary will be released and they have reached an agreement. I hope that's the case so we can move on.
I hope so too. |
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Reply #10 posted 01/04/25 7:52am
olb99
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paisleyparkgirl said:
MIRvmn1 said:
It's possible that the Netflix documentary will be released and they have reached an agreement. I hope that's the case so we can move on.
I hope so too.
If they had reached an agreement or were on the verge of reaching one, the "release" date wouldn't be "2026/2027". "2026/2027" sounds like a tentative "date" (not to say BS).
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Reply #11 posted 01/04/25 9:40am
funkbabyandthe babysitters
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Produced, directed, written, edited by charles spicer and londell McMillan |
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Reply #12 posted 01/04/25 10:20am
happyshopper
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All we can hope is that they’re making a new Doc with someone like Questlove or Spike Lee, and doing a proper job of it. They’ll need to reinterview a lot of people, who may not want to talk about it all again! |
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Reply #13 posted 01/04/25 5:11pm
skywalker
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happyshopper said:
All we can hope is that they’re making a new Doc with someone like Questlove or Spike Lee, and doing a proper job of it. They’ll need to reinterview a lot of people, who may not want to talk about it all again!
Agreed. Either of those two would do fine. They should have asked Spike Lee to do it in the first place. "New Power slide...." |
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Reply #14 posted 01/05/25 12:38pm
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From Matthew Belloni's (Puck) "What I’m Hearing" newsletter July 19, 2024:
"Dearly beloved, a Prince movie update: A few people reached out after reading my Monday reveal of the secret fight over Ezra Edelman’s nine-hour Prince documentary to note that attorney L. Londell McMillan and reps for the artist’s estate have been shopping a new development deal. The Endeavor-backed Asylum Entertainment met with...".
The rest can be read if you copy the link below, and paste it into a 'Remove Paywall' website.
Link: https://puck.news/newslet...ie-update/
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Reply #15 posted 01/05/25 1:13pm
fredmagnus
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What I need above all is NEW MUSIC.
As for the documentary, they can take their time to make it right. I won't be missing the Netflix one in the light of what we've heard so far about it. Ezra went in the wrong direction as long as music is NOT the main topic of the doc.
Make a new documentary and take your time but for God sake, release new music meanwhile. We will get the videos when possible. A Vault series and so many other projects don't need to include any video content. [Edited 1/5/25 13:14pm]
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Reply #16 posted 01/06/25 8:26am
Trufunksoulja
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happyshopper said:
All we can hope is that they’re making a new Doc with someone like Questlove or Spike Lee, and doing a proper job of it. They’ll need to reinterview a lot of people, who may not want to talk about it all again!
LOL no respected filmmaker would touch this doc with McMillions in full control |
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Reply #17 posted 01/06/25 10:51am
ghostof82
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All they had to do was release a series of Prince concerts from various stages of Prince's career, and let the music do the talking. We don't need no 'talking heads' opinion pieces from self-appointed 'experts'- just the music. |
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Reply #18 posted 01/06/25 10:57am
JorisE73
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Mindbells9 said:
My guess is they're either going to do their own documentary to counter the claims made in the Netflix documentary, or they're hoping to get the Netflix doc canned altogether so they can start from scratch with a new director and tell his story in a way that they feel won't do any harm towards his legacy and the Prince brand.
If it gets canned then hopefully the director will leak it (probbaly not) because I really want to know what footage and audio is in there. Don't really care about talking heads talking about Prince's personal affairs now that he's not around to counter them.
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Reply #19 posted 01/06/25 3:37pm
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fredmagnus said:
What I need above all is NEW MUSIC. As for the documentary, they can take their time to make it right. I won't be missing the Netflix one in the light of what we've heard so far about it. Ezra went in the wrong direction as long as music is NOT the main topic of the doc. Make a new documentary and take your time but for God sake, release new music meanwhile. We will get the videos when possible. A Vault series and so many other projects don't need to include any video content. [Edited 1/5/25 13:14pm]
It seems that doc needs to come out for new music to be released (unless grantd permission by Netflix). |
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Reply #20 posted 01/07/25 9:38am
fredmagnus
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leecaldon said:
fredmagnus said:
What I need above all is NEW MUSIC. As for the documentary, they can take their time to make it right. I won't be missing the Netflix one in the light of what we've heard so far about it. Ezra went in the wrong direction as long as music is NOT the main topic of the doc. Make a new documentary and take your time but for God sake, release new music meanwhile. We will get the videos when possible. A Vault series and so many other projects don't need to include any video content. [Edited 1/5/25 13:14pm]
It seems that doc needs to come out for new music to be released (unless grantd permission by Netflix).
Unless they manage to cancel the Netflix deal and make a new deal with another streaming platform... |
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Reply #21 posted 01/07/25 10:23am
Trufunksoulja
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fredmagnus said:
leecaldon said:
It seems that doc needs to come out for new music to be released (unless grantd permission by Netflix).
Unless they manage to cancel the Netflix deal and make a new deal with another streaming platform...
Only music/video that is related to the doc is blocked for commercial release.
Should be possible to release anything else.
I don't think the previous Estate was that dumb to block all vault releases.
The current McMillions Estate is balls deep in Purple Rain 2.0, so I don't think they want to release anything else.
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Reply #22 posted 01/07/25 11:50am
JorisE73
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Trufunksoulja said:
fredmagnus said:
Unless they manage to cancel the Netflix deal and make a new deal with another streaming platform...
Only music/video that is related to the doc is blocked for commercial release.
Should be possible to release anything else.
I don't think the previous Estate was that dumb to block all vault releases.
The current McMillions Estate is balls deep in Purple Rain 2.0, so I don't think they want to release anything else.
Hopefully this ois true but we don't know what kind of deal the previous management had with Netflix. There are alot of rumors going around even outlandish once like that because Netflix had full unobrstructed access to the vault they have the right to block any release for (at least) 6 months after the release of there documentray. This sounds too stupid even for the previous management, but gven there track record it also wouldn't surprise me.
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Reply #23 posted 01/07/25 6:00pm
MIRvmn1
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If it’s true that Netflix has to approve releases, then the SDE shouldn’t be a problem for the estate since it was part of D&L and ready for release anyway. I think the problem is that the estate is prioritizing PR again this year. But no one really cares about PR anymore since the 40th anniversary is over and they screwed up badly. Basically, everyone wants to move on except Londell and Spicer. U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the SDE now! |
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Reply #24 posted 01/07/25 9:45pm
nayroo2002
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MIRvmn1 said:
If it’s true that Netflix has to approve releases, then the SDE shouldn’t be a problem for the estate since it was part of D&L and ready for release anyway. I think the problem is that the estate is prioritizing PR again this year. But no one really cares about PR anymore since the 40th anniversary is over and they screwed up badly. Basically, everyone wants to move on except Londell and Spicer.
U should apply 4 a job! U r so knowledgeable! 'm sure they would take U on as lead "Prince Dude". "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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Reply #25 posted 01/08/25 3:18am
WhisperingDand elions
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nayroo2002 said:
MIRvmn1 said:
If it’s true that Netflix has to approve releases, then the SDE shouldn’t be a problem for the estate since it was part of D&L and ready for release anyway. I think the problem is that the estate is prioritizing PR again this year. But no one really cares about PR anymore since the 40th anniversary is over and they screwed up badly. Basically, everyone wants to move on except Londell and Spicer.
U should apply 4 a job! U r so knowledgeable! 'm sure they would take U on as lead "Prince Dude".
Over emphasis on 'Purple Rain' and his two-to-three "hit" records (vs. the other 37) got us in this Groundhog Day cycle mess in the first place. All the sarcasm in the world will never negate that. |
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Reply #26 posted 01/08/25 7:28am
Kares
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WhisperingDandelions said:
nayroo2002 said:
U should apply 4 a job! U r so knowledgeable! 'm sure they would take U on as lead "Prince Dude".
Over emphasis on 'Purple Rain' and his two-to-three "hit" records (vs. the other 37) got us in this Groundhog Day cycle mess in the first place. All the sarcasm in the world will never negate that.
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You mean "the other 70-80"... At least we here should know better than to ignoring half of his official catalog just because he chose to release the other half under other names. |
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Reply #27 posted 01/08/25 7:56am
funkbabyandthe babysitters
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JorisE73 said:
Mindbells9 said:
My guess is they're either going to do their own documentary to counter the claims made in the Netflix documentary, or they're hoping to get the Netflix doc canned altogether so they can start from scratch with a new director and tell his story in a way that they feel won't do any harm towards his legacy and the Prince brand.
If it gets canned then hopefully the director will leak it (probbaly not) because I really want to know what footage and audio is in there. Don't really care about talking heads talking about Prince's personal affairs now that he's not around to counter them.
Cant imagine prince being in any doc to counter any claims made, he would never be that honest or direct or participatory. Hed only respond through lawyers. Or release a hidden message, DONT WATCH THE NETFLIX DOCUMENTARY, IM SORRY lol Or hed do what the estate is doing, releasing their own, prob anodyne response |
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Reply #28 posted 01/08/25 9:43am
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While I want to see the Netfix doc as the director inteneded, on bit from the director himself has gave me mixed feelings about it.He has mentioned that he didn't quite know where to take the narrative, which is hard to believe anyone having trouble with that, and that he settled on theJills jones, Wendy Lisa arch as the hook becasue of how compelling it was for the narrative. Now, I mean I want to see all that, but not as a gimmick or arch or becasue it helped him settle on something compelling for him to drive a narrative. But none of us have seen it and it is quite long so who knows, but i hope he didn't use her as a lazy part of the narration becasue he was stuck. [Edited 1/8/25 9:47am] |
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Reply #29 posted 01/08/25 3:33pm
paisleyparkgir l
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v10letblues said:
While I want to see the Netfix doc as the director inteneded, on bit from the director himself has gave me mixed feelings about it.He has mentioned that he didn't quite know where to take the narrative, which is hard to believe anyone having trouble with that, and that he settled on theJills jones, Wendy Lisa arch as the hook becasue of how compelling it was for the narrative. Now, I mean I want to see all that, but not as a gimmick or arch or becasue it helped him settle on something compelling for him to drive a narrative. But none of us have seen it and it is quite long so who knows, but i hope he didn't use her as a lazy part of the narration becasue he was stuck.
[Edited 1/8/25 9:47am]
Wendy and Lisa ? I don't think they said anything they hadn't seen before. The Jill Jones story is what ruined the doc. |
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