barryb46 said:

Looking forward to this one

It's so funky. Love it !

ExTAFKASoladeo1 said:

I think the drum track is closest to Carmen's "Everybody Get On Up", which makes a lot of sense since I believe they were recorded in the same sessions(?)

jraw said:

Great song, sounds like Chic! Would have fit perfectly on their 1992 album Chic-ism!

Agree, those high notes simple piano chords combined with that Nile-ish guitar lick, very Chic worthy indeed. Also knowing this is just a two-chord song, but still very rich.

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And I can honestly hear Kylie sing this.

Wish her version would leak too.

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Nice small little funky Xmas present. Jinglesssss.

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Vannormal said:

jraw said:

Great song, sounds like Chic! Would have fit perfectly on their 1992 album Chic-ism!

Agree, those high notes simple piano chords combined with that Nile-ish guitar lick, very Chic worthy indeed. Also knowing this is just a two-chord song, but still very rich.

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And I can honestly hear Kylie sing this.

Wish her version would leak too.

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Nice small little funky Xmas present. Jinglesssss.

[Edited 12/14/24 23:06pm]

Maybe Kylie could record it. She herself admitted she would like to do something with it!

The german Rolling Stone mentioned it also:

https://www.rollingstone....t-2891181/

woohoo, finally my 15 minutes of fame lol

Where's the interview, Joris?

olb99 said:

Where's the interview, Joris?

LOL, I'm available for any offer

Not sure what Kylie had in mind for her next record in 1992, but it's yet another typical example of Prince the producer submitting "Prince" material to other artists without caring much about context. Sometimes, often with a little post-prod or a complete rerecording, it worked remarkably well, but at other times, the tune literally had nothing to do with where the artist was at that stage of their career.

Baby Doll would have had a hard time fitting on Kylie Minogue (the 1994 album) or even as a new song on her about to be released greatest hits package. Maybe rerecorded with a different producer to the point of becoming an entirely new thing (à la Mica Paris' If I Love U 2 Nite), but even then I don't see it happening. Or Prince would have had to produce an entire Kylie Minogue album, turning her into a de facto protégée, which probably wouldn't have been the best career move for her at that point.

That said, it's lovely to finally get to hear it. It's a great little tune

FrankieCoco1 said:

NME in the UK as well as The Sun newspaper websites have both mentioned this. https://www.nme.com/news/...ed-3822315 https://www.thesun.co.uk/...resurfaces

The Sun seems to think it sounds like Come Into My World.

databank said:

Not sure what Kylie had in mind for her next record in 1992, but it's yet another typical example of Prince the producer submitting "Prince" material to other artists without caring much about context. Sometimes, often with a little post-prod or a complete rerecording, it worked remarkably well, but at other times, the tune literally had nothing to do with where the artist was at that stage of their career.

Baby Doll would have had a hard time fitting on Kylie Minogue (the 1994 album) or even as a new song on her about to be released greatest hits package. Maybe rerecorded with a different producer to the point of becoming an entirely new thing (à la Mica Paris' If I Love U 2 Nite), but even then I don't see it happening. Or Prince would have had to produce an entire Kylie Minogue album, turning her into a de facto protégée, which probably wouldn't have been the best career move for her at that point.

That said, it's lovely to finally get to hear it. It's a great little tune

She also said in interviews from those last few years that she'd like to record the song if the Prince Estate would let her. Back in 1992, Prince gave her a cassette with exactly what we've now heard. Maybe she was being polite, but she didn't say she disliked the song's production. From a 2020 article: "Minogue then explained that her label at the time disliked that Prince would want to record all the song’s instrumental himself, so the song never came into fruition." Her label, not Kylie herself.

But, yes, you're right: it's one of those cases where the song would probably have been out of place if not re-recorded, like "Can I Play With U?" right after "Full Nelson" on "Tutu".

olb99 said:

databank said:

Not sure what Kylie had in mind for her next record in 1992, but it's yet another typical example of Prince the producer submitting "Prince" material to other artists without caring much about context. Sometimes, often with a little post-prod or a complete rerecording, it worked remarkably well, but at other times, the tune literally had nothing to do with where the artist was at that stage of their career.

Baby Doll would have had a hard time fitting on Kylie Minogue (the 1994 album) or even as a new song on her about to be released greatest hits package. Maybe rerecorded with a different producer to the point of becoming an entirely new thing (à la Mica Paris' If I Love U 2 Nite), but even then I don't see it happening. Or Prince would have had to produce an entire Kylie Minogue album, turning her into a de facto protégée, which probably wouldn't have been the best career move for her at that point.

That said, it's lovely to finally get to hear it. It's a great little tune

She also said in interviews from those last few years that she'd like to record the song if the Prince Estate would let her. Back in 1992, Prince gave her a cassette with exactly what we've now heard. Maybe she was being polite, but she didn't say she disliked the song's production. From a 2020 article: "Minogue then explained that her label at the time disliked that Prince would want to record all the song’s instrumental himself, so the song never came into fruition." Her label, not Kylie herself.

But, yes, you're right: it's one of those cases where the song would probably have been out of place if not re-recorded, like "Can I Play With U?" right after "Full Nelson" on "Tutu".

Interesting. So her label would have considered it if rerecorded? I'm sure Prince wouldn't have been stubborn when it comes to it, his policy when giving away songs to non-protégés was usually "it's now yours to do whatever you want with". Either way, I just checked the Wikipedia article for the album and apparently it went though a long process with lots of collaborations ideas and songs recorded with a lot of different producers before it finally found its identity.

Ndorphinmachina said:

I mean she wrote the lyrics right? Why would she need the estates permission to do anything with it? Change the music a bit and she could do what she wants with it? Although if the estate had any sense at all they'd be inviting her out to Paisley Park and giving her whatever she needs to make the song into a duet. She's not particularly my kind of music, but Prince obviously had a soft spot for her, and she sells. So, I for one look forward to seeing this released in 13 years time on an obscure and un publicised collection of outtakes. In the meantime, perhaps a collection of spoons with the symbol embossed on the handle?

I did some research once and found out that in theory, there's a thing such as first release permission, i.e. one cannot release a song composed or co-composed by someone without the author/co-author's consent (the Estate now being "the co-author"), though I also found sources that say the song only needs to be published (i.e. registered with a publusher such as ASCAP or BMI), not necessarily already released, to be subject to an automatic licence for covers.

There's also the fact that Kylie is Australian and Prince American: copyright laws may differ from country to country in this regard.

Either way, I don't think the Estate would oppose Kylie releasing it any more than Kylie would oppose the Estate releasing Prince's version. It's just a matter of courtesy, if not legalities, that the first one to release it would get the other party's permission. Then whomever wants to release it second can do whatever they want since that one would technically be a cover.

databank said: