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Thread started 12/13/24 8:13pm

barryb46

Unreleased - Baby Doll (1992)

So after 'Keep On Loving U' and 'No Changes' comes this surprisingly funky dance track with lyrics written by Kylie Minogue.

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Reply #1 posted 12/13/24 11:06pm

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barryb46 said:

So after Keep On Loving U and No Changes comes this surprisingly funky dance track written by Kylie Minogue.

I really enjoyed hearing this. Shame the Symbol/ D&P superdeluxe wasn't released as I gather this was on it
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Reply #2 posted 12/14/24 2:09am

andrewm7new

Looking forward to this one

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Reply #3 posted 12/14/24 2:25am

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It's so funky. Love it !

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Reply #4 posted 12/14/24 4:49am

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Drums and rhythm sounds a lot like Cream to me albeit sped up a bit.
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Reply #5 posted 12/14/24 7:54am

johnpiex

This is fantastic!
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Reply #6 posted 12/14/24 12:56pm

jraw

Great song, sounds like Chic! Would have fit perfectly on their 1992 album Chic-ism!
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Reply #7 posted 12/14/24 7:10pm

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ExTAFKASoladeo1 said:

Drums and rhythm sounds a lot like Cream to me albeit sped up a bit.


I thought the same thing. Reminds me of Cream
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #8 posted 12/15/24 4:17am

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I think the drum track is closest to Carmen's "Everybody Get On Up", which makes a lot of sense since I believe they were recorded in the same sessions(?)

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Reply #9 posted 12/15/24 7:02am

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Great song, sounds like Chic! Would have fit perfectly on their 1992 album Chic-ism!

Agree, those high notes simple piano chords combined with that Nile-ish guitar lick, very Chic worthy indeed. Also knowing this is just a two-chord song, but still very rich. biggrin

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And I can honestly hear Kylie sing this.

Wish her version would leak too.

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Nice small little funky Xmas present. Jinglesssss.

[Edited 12/14/24 23:06pm]

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #10 posted 12/15/24 12:03pm

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Vannormal said:

jraw said:

Great song, sounds like Chic! Would have fit perfectly on their 1992 album Chic-ism!

Agree, those high notes simple piano chords combined with that Nile-ish guitar lick, very Chic worthy indeed. Also knowing this is just a two-chord song, but still very rich. biggrin

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And I can honestly hear Kylie sing this.

Wish her version would leak too.

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Nice small little funky Xmas present. Jinglesssss.

[Edited 12/14/24 23:06pm]

Maybe Kylie could record it. She herself admitted she would like to do something with it!

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Reply #11 posted 12/15/24 6:55pm

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https://youtu.be/cful9-4l...3OerisKswR

Kylie discussing how the song came to be.
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Reply #12 posted 12/15/24 10:06pm

FrankieCoco1

NME in the UK as well as The Sun newspaper websites have both mentioned this.

https://www.nme.com/news/...ed-3822315

https://www.thesun.co.uk/...resurfaces
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #13 posted 12/15/24 11:16pm

ludwig

The german Rolling Stone mentioned it also:

https://www.rollingstone....t-2891181/

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Reply #14 posted 12/16/24 10:09am

JorisE73

woohoo, finally my 15 minutes of fame lol lol

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Reply #15 posted 12/16/24 11:29am

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Where's the interview, Joris? lol

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Reply #16 posted 12/16/24 11:46am

JorisE73

olb99 said:

Where's the interview, Joris? lol


LOL, I'm available for any offer lol

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Reply #17 posted 12/17/24 12:09am

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Not sure what Kylie had in mind for her next record in 1992, but it's yet another typical example of Prince the producer submitting "Prince" material to other artists without caring much about context. Sometimes, often with a little post-prod or a complete rerecording, it worked remarkably well, but at other times, the tune literally had nothing to do with where the artist was at that stage of their career.

Baby Doll would have had a hard time fitting on Kylie Minogue (the 1994 album) or even as a new song on her about to be released greatest hits package. Maybe rerecorded with a different producer to the point of becoming an entirely new thing (à la Mica Paris' If I Love U 2 Nite), but even then I don't see it happening. Or Prince would have had to produce an entire Kylie Minogue album, turning her into a de facto protégée, which probably wouldn't have been the best career move for her at that point.

That said, it's lovely to finally get to hear it. It's a great little tune biggrin

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Reply #18 posted 12/17/24 8:50am

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FrankieCoco1 said:

NME in the UK as well as The Sun newspaper websites have both mentioned this. https://www.nme.com/news/...ed-3822315 https://www.thesun.co.uk/...resurfaces

The Sun seems to think it sounds like Come Into My World. stoned

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Reply #19 posted 12/19/24 8:46am

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databank said:

Not sure what Kylie had in mind for her next record in 1992, but it's yet another typical example of Prince the producer submitting "Prince" material to other artists without caring much about context. Sometimes, often with a little post-prod or a complete rerecording, it worked remarkably well, but at other times, the tune literally had nothing to do with where the artist was at that stage of their career.

Baby Doll would have had a hard time fitting on Kylie Minogue (the 1994 album) or even as a new song on her about to be released greatest hits package. Maybe rerecorded with a different producer to the point of becoming an entirely new thing (à la Mica Paris' If I Love U 2 Nite), but even then I don't see it happening. Or Prince would have had to produce an entire Kylie Minogue album, turning her into a de facto protégée, which probably wouldn't have been the best career move for her at that point.

That said, it's lovely to finally get to hear it. It's a great little tune biggrin


She also said in interviews from those last few years that she'd like to record the song if the Prince Estate would let her. Back in 1992, Prince gave her a cassette with exactly what we've now heard. Maybe she was being polite, but she didn't say she disliked the song's production. From a 2020 article: "Minogue then explained that her label at the time disliked that Prince would want to record all the song’s instrumental himself, so the song never came into fruition." Her label, not Kylie herself.

But, yes, you're right: it's one of those cases where the song would probably have been out of place if not re-recorded, like "Can I Play With U?" right after "Full Nelson" on "Tutu".

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Reply #20 posted 12/20/24 7:32am

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olb99 said:

databank said:

Not sure what Kylie had in mind for her next record in 1992, but it's yet another typical example of Prince the producer submitting "Prince" material to other artists without caring much about context. Sometimes, often with a little post-prod or a complete rerecording, it worked remarkably well, but at other times, the tune literally had nothing to do with where the artist was at that stage of their career.

Baby Doll would have had a hard time fitting on Kylie Minogue (the 1994 album) or even as a new song on her about to be released greatest hits package. Maybe rerecorded with a different producer to the point of becoming an entirely new thing (à la Mica Paris' If I Love U 2 Nite), but even then I don't see it happening. Or Prince would have had to produce an entire Kylie Minogue album, turning her into a de facto protégée, which probably wouldn't have been the best career move for her at that point.

That said, it's lovely to finally get to hear it. It's a great little tune biggrin


She also said in interviews from those last few years that she'd like to record the song if the Prince Estate would let her. Back in 1992, Prince gave her a cassette with exactly what we've now heard. Maybe she was being polite, but she didn't say she disliked the song's production. From a 2020 article: "Minogue then explained that her label at the time disliked that Prince would want to record all the song’s instrumental himself, so the song never came into fruition." Her label, not Kylie herself.

But, yes, you're right: it's one of those cases where the song would probably have been out of place if not re-recorded, like "Can I Play With U?" right after "Full Nelson" on "Tutu".

Interesting. So her label would have considered it if rerecorded? I'm sure Prince wouldn't have been stubborn when it comes to it, his policy when giving away songs to non-protégés was usually "it's now yours to do whatever you want with". Either way, I just checked the Wikipedia article for the album and apparently it went though a long process with lots of collaborations ideas and songs recorded with a lot of different producers before it finally found its identity.

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Reply #21 posted 12/23/24 2:39am

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I mean she wrote the lyrics right? Why would she need the estates permission to do anything with it? Change the music a bit and she could do what she wants with it?

Although if the estate had any sense at all they'd be inviting her out to Paisley Park and giving her whatever she needs to make the song into a duet. She's not particularly my kind of music, but Prince obviously had a soft spot for her, and she sells.

So, I for one look forward to seeing this released in 13 years time on an obscure and un publicised collection of outtakes. In the meantime, perhaps a collection of spoons with the symbol embossed on the handle?
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