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Know what the avantage of AI is? Someone on our known video channel was able to deciphre Prince's backwards vocals on Shortberry Strawcake, that were buried deep into the song. See? After 40 years, these things are possible. He made his own mix out of it, but it's just great to hear. Fan-mixes & AI can be so much worth it for things the Estate probably never will do. (NinetyNineProblems, but AI ain't mine. ) - "...And it came as a massive surprise that hidden within the track is the first mention of a project that wouldn't be released until half decade later!..." [Edited 11/28/24 8:00am] "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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Holey-Moley! "Whatever skin we're in
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2qrFwc-bgg I found the video but TBH I still can't decypher a thing he's saying , so IDK what the "first mention of a project that wouldn't be released until half a decade later" is. [Edited 11/28/24 8:37am] A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Yeah, it's still jibberish! (but that little guitar break is the same as the one in "Chocolate") [Edited 11/28/24 8:44am] "Whatever skin we're in
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I can't figureit out, but someone will. - Love also the Vanity 6's version he did of "Boy" and the Nikka Costa string version of "Silver Tongue". All smart work with so l-much love. etc...
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It's on PrinceVault, guys. "Graffiti Bridge". | |
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Ah cool, thanks I may be imagining things, but I think I remember reading that GB was the real nickname of a bridge near MPLS (destroyed before the movie was made, thus recreated for it IIRC), so if I'm not trippin', it's not necessarily a "first mention of a project", more a mention of a real location that eventually became a project. Interesting nonetheless. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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His Prince vocal remix version of "4 Love" is straight pure FUNK in yo face | |
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@ Shortberry Strawcake
Reverse the track. Isolate the vocals. Can easily been done. I've done it in the past But it comes out there same as those of you have heard. You can make out a few lines here and there. But it's really hard to desopher the rest [Typo fix] [Edited 11/29/24 17:11pm] I will take my place, In the great below | |
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@ Shortberry Strawcake Reverse the track. Isolate the vocals. Can easily been done. I've done it in the past But it comes out there same as those of you have heard. You can make out a few lines here and there. But it's really hard to desopher the rest [Typo fix] [Edited 11/29/24 17:11pm] Good for you but, nope. Not many people have the know-how to do things like that. I for one. Must be an IT or internet nerd thing. [Edited 11/29/24 21:26pm] "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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I know I'm posting twice on this same thread, but this leak has cheered me up a lot! There is something understated about the track in its simplicity that I love ❤️ | |
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No Changes from 1987 seems to be a new leak. U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
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What a wonderful 'rough' piano tune. Isn't it older? So great to hear new things after all these decades of dust. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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I have it on repeat lol
Love all of his vocals, sooo smooth. | |
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Same for me too. I know its the novelty of a new song for us but I really like it. And the fact DJ Rashida may or may not have put the Anita Baker sample loop in doesn't alter that for me. . At the same time it makes you more frustrated by the estate. The material they're sitting on they could have the hardcore fan base buzzing with frequent releases like this... | |
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Same for me too. I know its the novelty of a new song for us but I really like it. And the fact DJ Rashida may or may not have put the Anita Baker sample loop in doesn't alter that for me. . At the same time it makes you more frustrated by the estate. The material they're sitting on they could have the hardcore fan base buzzing with frequent releases like this... Yes, the estate could've released one or two unreleased songs each month. That would be 12-16 songs a year (like an album). U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
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AI is already getting out of hand! I noticed on YouTube someone has taken Princes demo vocals and put them over finished versions by other artists to create a whole album worth of tracks, which they've named "Get Blue". It's surprisingly good, but this is going to get confused with real leaked tracks very quickly!! [Edited 12/3/24 3:35am] | |
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You're right but anyway all we have left for years to come is AI & leaked tracks. Not what we expected but still better than nothing at all. [Edited 12/3/24 4:42am] | |
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It's a 'she'. Hint: she has one hundred problem5 (minus 1). What I love the most is the inventive way of using isolated Prince vocals over songs P's written for others. It gives a 100% Prince feel, and authentic vibe of what it could've been done by P himself. I really love these mixes and mashups. Some artist have their songs remixed by famous DJs. For me this gives the same result. She's inventive and uses songs we mostly skip, don't like, or simply forgot about. Like 'My Little Pil', 'There's Others Here With Us', plus some Madhouse like trax... fogotten instrumentals. All very good. She's asking to follow her, so she can post every week a new song. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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It brings the question of whether it's ethical to remix tracks after an artist's death (or without the consent owning the masters if the label choses to do so). Admitedly, I have listened to (and enjoyed) such official remixes on rare occasions, so I'd be dishonest if I said I condemn the practice entirely. And admitedly, once an artist is gone, it doesn't make a difference whether it's an official remix mandated by the label or fans doing it. . That said, I have not and will most likely never care for, or listen to fanmade mixes because I have no interest in them, if only because so far, those few cases where I enjoyed such posthumous remixes were because they were made by professional musicians who actually did add something personal and/or interesting to the songs, turning them into something else entirely (for example, Bill Laswell's posthumous remixes of Bob Marley: one may like them of not, but he definitely did turn Marley's music into Laswell music). . To mention one Prince fanmix I have heard recently, I certainly wouldn't call Strawberry Shortcake a fabulous new creation, it's just soup IMHO. So is any song substituting Prince's vocals to someone else's and, for that matter, those frankensteined songs on Originals. It doesn't bring any added, personal, creatively challenging value to the songs. It's just soup. . But I guess at the end of the day, my perspective remains that I do not listen to music to be entertained, which is why I have zero interest in anyone "improving" an artist's music in order to make it more digestible. What I'm interested in is observing an artist's creative process, in all its glories and failures. I often enjoy listening to records I don't really like or watching movies I don't really like, particularly if they're from a musician or director I usually do like. I don't get frustrated. I have fun observing what it is I think does not work and why, and what I think does work despite the flaws. . Now probably, some day, there will be a brand new, original record (or novel, or film) made entirely by an AI that I will find mindblowing. I'm very curious about the day it happens and how I will react to it. And maybe someday some fan —with or without an AI— will remix Prince and add something truly unique to the songs, that gives them a whole new flavor that I will find interesting. But people and/or AI removing Tony M. from Willing And Able, reversing backward vocals or adding Prince's vocals to I Hear Your Voice aren't doing me a favor. No offense to the people making those, I'm sure they mean well, but as far as I'm concerned, they're just ruining Prince's work and the result is, well... soup A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Clearly. Any casual listener running into those will believe they're the real thing. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Pretty soon (the next 100 years, or so?), noone newly born will ever learn how to play a musical instrument within their lifetime.
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This could be said about pretty much any human activity. And it'll probably be much sooner than 100 years. Hopefully (let's be optimistic for the sake of it ) it will be like Star Trek and people will just acquire skills and do things because they want to. We tend to forget it, but liberating humans from labor is an old humanist dream. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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No worries. And cheers to the English Gent for clearing things up. | |
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Delete [Edited 12/3/24 13:39pm] U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
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I think "nothing at all" is preferable to AI created Prince tracks. FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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. Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3.
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With all due respect, there is no really better or morally sound way to listen to, enjoy or not enjoy Prince's music for study purposes. But then that is often only for the very few. It's out there. And in 2024 the world has a very different approach when it comes to music and enjoying it. All opinions aside, it's all about how the music is perceived, listened to and enjoyed or not. Right? Be it versions made by established names, or versions made by fans/ DIY-ers. IMHO of course. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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