It has been over a year since the last SDE. The estate has given us zero new music, zero plans for new music, and zero meaningful communication with the fans whatsoever. Londell and Charles have stubbornly refused to listen to any criticism or feedback, no matter how politely given. All they care about is shilling Prince's name and image for quick and easy cash, his musical legacy be damned.

Meanwhile, fan discussion sites are either dead aside from a handful of grouchy old-timers (a la this place), or full of surface level discussion about the same old handful of topics. The long time fans are shrinking in numbers, and the estate has no plan to turn newer generations onto his music to preserve Prince's artistic legacy. It feels like we're all witnessing the dying gasps of the Prince fandom in real time. It was fun while it lasted.

On the other hand, the music is still there. You can listen to it whenever you want. Hundreds and hundreds of hours of excellent music, recorded between 1977 and 2016. It's quite crazy, when you think about it.

New music will come, eventually. Don't lose hope.

party people in the crib get hyped! Let's get this party funkin' right!

MIRvmn1 said:

It's obvious by now that Londell and Spicer don't care about us and Prince's legacy.

They're padding their pockets, and we all know it. Londell's been a leech for how long now? Almost 30 years.

The Netflix documentary would bring Prince back into the public consciousness and I would certainly like to see it as it is.

Surely there must be some way to edit it to assuage some of the concerns that the estate has , I would certainly watch it if it was nothing but performance footage.

It was imagined as a biography and I am uncertain that concept could ever be realised with so little or no input from Prince (unavoidable). As it stands it is what everyone else glimpsed combined and can only be viewed though that lens.

The fandom is a strange beast and would be very difficult to come up with material that would energise and intrigue lifers like me and still tickle the interest of the "really loved purple rain, never dived deeper crowd"

[Edited 11/18/24 19:12pm]

On a small point, we got new versions of the Musicology b-sides this year.

Spot on - I feel every word of what you said in my bones, and I have to say, you’re absolutely right. This is what the slow death of a fandom looks like, and it’s excruciating to witness. Prince deserves so much more than this. He wasn’t just a musician or a cultural icon—he was a force of nature, a genius . And yet here we are, watching his legacy be fumbled, mishandled, and ignored by the very people who are supposed to be its stewards. It’s heartbreaking and incredibly frustrating - Just can't do anything about it

I mean, there's the complete radio silence from the estate. It’s not just disappointing; it’s disrespectful. Over a year since the last SDE? That’s mental, especially given that we know that LoveSymbol SDE is just sat there. Prince left us a vault—a literal treasure trove—of music that he intended to outlast him. He wanted us to hear it. He wanted his artistry to continue to inspire and challenge the world. And what have we gotten instead? A couple of half-hearted releases, endless reissues of albums we already own in every format imaginable, and some tacky merch drops. Oh, joy. How about they take some of that energy spent on slapping Prince’s face on overpriced t-shirts and focus on releasing the actual music?

Londell and Charles clearly have no idea what they’re doing. It’s like they see the vault as a goldmine for quick cash grabs instead of a living, breathing legacy that requires careful, thoughtful curation. I’m not saying every single note Prince recorded is ready for public consumption, but can we get some transparency? Some sense that there’s a plan? That someone—anyone—is thinking beyond the next fiscal quarter? Instead, we’re left in the dark, begging for scraps, while the estate seems content to milk his name dry without giving anything back to the fans who’ve been here for decades.

And don’t even get me started on the lack of effort to bring in new fans. You’re absolutely right: they’re letting Prince’s legacy wither on the vine. Where are the targeted campaigns to introduce his music to younger generations? Where are the collaborations with modern artists to show how influential he still is? Where’s the Netflix series, the biopic, the high-profile tributes that could keep his name alive in popular culture? Instead, they’ve left it up to us, the fans, to keep his memory alive—while simultaneously alienating us with their negligence.

As for the fan community itself? You hit the nail on the head. The forums are either ghost towns or echo chambers, full of the same tired debates about Purple Rain vs. Sign o’ the Times or whether Prince would’ve approved of this or that. And sure, those discussions are fine in moderation, but where’s the excitement? Where’s the sense of discovery? It’s like everyone’s either too jaded or too exhausted to even care anymore. I don’t blame them—it’s hard to stay passionate when it feels like the people in charge of Prince’s legacy couldn’t care less.

But you know what? It doesn’t have to be this way. The potential for a vibrant, thriving Prince fandom is still there. The music—the core of everything—is timeless. Prince has an entire universe of songs, styles, and stories that could resonate with people of all ages if given the chance. But it’s going to take effort. It’s going to take vision. And it’s going to take people in power who actually understand and care about what Prince stood for.

We need to demand better. We need to make our voices heard—not just on forums like this, but directly to the estate, to the media, to anyone who might listen. And we need to do it now, because every day that goes by without meaningful action is another nail in the coffin of Prince’s legacy. This isn’t just about us as fans; it’s about preserving the work of one of the greatest artists of all time. It’s about ensuring that future generations can experience the magic, the audacity, and the brilliance of Prince.

So, yeah, maybe this fandom feels like it’s dying. But I refuse to let it go quietly. We owe it to Prince—and to ourselves—to fight for his legacy. Because if we don’t, who will?

I dont know what came over me... my moment of optimism and fight has gone - I give up !!!!! sigh

leecaldon said:

On a small point, we got new versions of the Musicology b-sides this year.

True that.im glad we got them

RODSERLING said:

I m sure there was good money to be made from this unreleased material, but these days are long gone. Thé Last Prince concerts released on CD would have been a million seller if released in 2016. W2America sold pretty well considering there was zilch promotion. But they could have done so much more with that project : music videos, a tour with all thé musiciens and chorists involved...That would have been so fucking great considering they are doing a musical right now. Originals could have gained so much hype if they didn't released the Nothing Compares 2U demo the year before... The SDE could have attracted more casual listeners, had they gone chronologically ( beginning with For You, with a Doc about the early years). Going forward, then backwards, then forward... fucking nonsense. Nobody cared.

Are you joking? It's the hardcore fan, not the casual fan, who wants them to go in chronological order. The Estate's strategy of targeting the biggest hits is the best way to interest casual fans. It's not necessarily to my personal tastes. Like you, I would love if they went in chronological order. But unlike you, I recognize that my personal tastes would be less appealing to the casual fans.

[Edited 11/21/24 6:34am]

lurker316 said:

RODSERLING said:

I m sure there was good money to be made from this unreleased material, but these days are long gone. Thé Last Prince concerts released on CD would have been a million seller if released in 2016. W2America sold pretty well considering there was zilch promotion. But they could have done so much more with that project : music videos, a tour with all thé musiciens and chorists involved...That would have been so fucking great considering they are doing a musical right now. Originals could have gained so much hype if they didn't released the Nothing Compares 2U demo the year before... The SDE could have attracted more casual listeners, had they gone chronologically ( beginning with For You, with a Doc about the early years). Going forward, then backwards, then forward... fucking nonsense. Nobody cared.

Are you joking? It's the hardcore fan, not the casual fan, who wants them to go in chronological order. The Estate's strategy of targeting the biggest hits is the way to interest casual fans. It's not necessarily to my personal tastes. Like you, I would love if they went in chronological order. But unlike you, I recognize that my person tastes wouldn't be less appealing to the casual fans.

Agreed. A chronological release slate would have made no sense at all from a commercial point of view.

mclihah2 said:

Spot on - I feel every word of what you said in my bones, and I have to say, you’re absolutely right. This is what the slow death of a fandom looks like, and it’s excruciating to witness. Prince deserves so much more than this. He wasn’t just a musician or a cultural icon—he was a force of nature, a genius . And yet here we are, watching his legacy be fumbled, mishandled, and ignored by the very people who are supposed to be its stewards. It’s heartbreaking and incredibly frustrating - Just can't do anything about it

I mean, there's the complete radio silence from the estate. It’s not just disappointing; it’s disrespectful. Over a year since the last SDE? That’s mental, especially given that we know that LoveSymbol SDE is just sat there. Prince left us a vault—a literal treasure trove—of music that he intended to outlast him. He wanted us to hear it. He wanted his artistry to continue to inspire and challenge the world. And what have we gotten instead? A couple of half-hearted releases, endless reissues of albums we already own in every format imaginable, and some tacky merch drops. Oh, joy. How about they take some of that energy spent on slapping Prince’s face on overpriced t-shirts and focus on releasing the actual music?

Londell and Charles clearly have no idea what they’re doing. It’s like they see the vault as a goldmine for quick cash grabs instead of a living, breathing legacy that requires careful, thoughtful curation. I’m not saying every single note Prince recorded is ready for public consumption, but can we get some transparency? Some sense that there’s a plan? That someone—anyone—is thinking beyond the next fiscal quarter? Instead, we’re left in the dark, begging for scraps, while the estate seems content to milk his name dry without giving anything back to the fans who’ve been here for decades.

And don’t even get me started on the lack of effort to bring in new fans. You’re absolutely right: they’re letting Prince’s legacy wither on the vine. Where are the targeted campaigns to introduce his music to younger generations? Where are the collaborations with modern artists to show how influential he still is? Where’s the Netflix series, the biopic, the high-profile tributes that could keep his name alive in popular culture? Instead, they’ve left it up to us, the fans, to keep his memory alive—while simultaneously alienating us with their negligence.

As for the fan community itself? You hit the nail on the head. The forums are either ghost towns or echo chambers, full of the same tired debates about Purple Rain vs. Sign o’ the Times or whether Prince would’ve approved of this or that. And sure, those discussions are fine in moderation, but where’s the excitement? Where’s the sense of discovery? It’s like everyone’s either too jaded or too exhausted to even care anymore. I don’t blame them—it’s hard to stay passionate when it feels like the people in charge of Prince’s legacy couldn’t care less.

But you know what? It doesn’t have to be this way. The potential for a vibrant, thriving Prince fandom is still there. The music—the core of everything—is timeless. Prince has an entire universe of songs, styles, and stories that could resonate with people of all ages if given the chance. But it’s going to take effort. It’s going to take vision. And it’s going to take people in power who actually understand and care about what Prince stood for.

We need to demand better. We need to make our voices heard—not just on forums like this, but directly to the estate, to the media, to anyone who might listen. And we need to do it now, because every day that goes by without meaningful action is another nail in the coffin of Prince’s legacy. This isn’t just about us as fans; it’s about preserving the work of one of the greatest artists of all time. It’s about ensuring that future generations can experience the magic, the audacity, and the brilliance of Prince.

So, yeah, maybe this fandom feels like it’s dying. But I refuse to let it go quietly. We owe it to Prince—and to ourselves—to fight for his legacy. Because if we don’t, who will?

LOL so much hyperbole and dramady. Maybe they are actually doing things to right the wrongs and have no time to waste to inform fans about the business behind it, you know, like any professional entity that don't inform there potential customers about anything happening in a company that is not there concern.
It;s not even as bad as it was back in teh mid 90s when all the fans left, that was when hois fandom died a horrible death, so just chill and wait like the rest for them to clean up the mess the previous management left behind. Who knows maybe we'll actyually get something great at last.

JorisE73 said:

mclihah2 said:

Spot on - I feel every word of what you said in my bones, and I have to say, you’re absolutely right. This is what the slow death of a fandom looks like, and it’s excruciating to witness. Prince deserves so much more than this. He wasn’t just a musician or a cultural icon—he was a force of nature, a genius . And yet here we are, watching his legacy be fumbled, mishandled, and ignored by the very people who are supposed to be its stewards. It’s heartbreaking and incredibly frustrating - Just can't do anything about it

I mean, there's the complete radio silence from the estate. It’s not just disappointing; it’s disrespectful. Over a year since the last SDE? That’s mental, especially given that we know that LoveSymbol SDE is just sat there. Prince left us a vault—a literal treasure trove—of music that he intended to outlast him. He wanted us to hear it. He wanted his artistry to continue to inspire and challenge the world. And what have we gotten instead? A couple of half-hearted releases, endless reissues of albums we already own in every format imaginable, and some tacky merch drops. Oh, joy. How about they take some of that energy spent on slapping Prince’s face on overpriced t-shirts and focus on releasing the actual music?

Londell and Charles clearly have no idea what they’re doing. It’s like they see the vault as a goldmine for quick cash grabs instead of a living, breathing legacy that requires careful, thoughtful curation. I’m not saying every single note Prince recorded is ready for public consumption, but can we get some transparency? Some sense that there’s a plan? That someone—anyone—is thinking beyond the next fiscal quarter? Instead, we’re left in the dark, begging for scraps, while the estate seems content to milk his name dry without giving anything back to the fans who’ve been here for decades.

And don’t even get me started on the lack of effort to bring in new fans. You’re absolutely right: they’re letting Prince’s legacy wither on the vine. Where are the targeted campaigns to introduce his music to younger generations? Where are the collaborations with modern artists to show how influential he still is? Where’s the Netflix series, the biopic, the high-profile tributes that could keep his name alive in popular culture? Instead, they’ve left it up to us, the fans, to keep his memory alive—while simultaneously alienating us with their negligence.

As for the fan community itself? You hit the nail on the head. The forums are either ghost towns or echo chambers, full of the same tired debates about Purple Rain vs. Sign o’ the Times or whether Prince would’ve approved of this or that. And sure, those discussions are fine in moderation, but where’s the excitement? Where’s the sense of discovery? It’s like everyone’s either too jaded or too exhausted to even care anymore. I don’t blame them—it’s hard to stay passionate when it feels like the people in charge of Prince’s legacy couldn’t care less.

But you know what? It doesn’t have to be this way. The potential for a vibrant, thriving Prince fandom is still there. The music—the core of everything—is timeless. Prince has an entire universe of songs, styles, and stories that could resonate with people of all ages if given the chance. But it’s going to take effort. It’s going to take vision. And it’s going to take people in power who actually understand and care about what Prince stood for.

We need to demand better. We need to make our voices heard—not just on forums like this, but directly to the estate, to the media, to anyone who might listen. And we need to do it now, because every day that goes by without meaningful action is another nail in the coffin of Prince’s legacy. This isn’t just about us as fans; it’s about preserving the work of one of the greatest artists of all time. It’s about ensuring that future generations can experience the magic, the audacity, and the brilliance of Prince.

So, yeah, maybe this fandom feels like it’s dying. But I refuse to let it go quietly. We owe it to Prince—and to ourselves—to fight for his legacy. Because if we don’t, who will?

LOL so much hyperbole and dramady. Maybe they are actually doing things to right the wrongs and have no time to waste to inform fans about the business behind it, you know, like any professional entity that don't inform there potential customers about anything happening in a company that is not there concern.
It;s not even as bad as it was back in teh mid 90s when all the fans left, that was when hois fandom died a horrible death, so just chill and wait like the rest for them to clean up the mess the previous management left behind. Who knows maybe we'll actyually get something great at last.

Are you new to all this?

JorisE73 said:

It;s not even as bad as it was back in teh mid 90s when all the fans left, that was when hois fandom died a horrible death, so just chill and wait like the rest for them to clean up the mess the previous management left behind. Who knows maybe we'll actyually get something great at last.

I personally disagree with you - from my perspective, the mid 90s were an exciting time - there was the promise of all this new amazing music... and Prince was alive to feed the hype and perform live shows... and sell condoms in Camden Town

It didn't matter that the mainstream audience didn't like him - There was new music

To make it worse,

this is what is available for this holiday season;

to kill some purple time :

To get drunk from misery :

to get more drunk while on the way :

another Pruple Rain reissue on splatter vinyl :

Have to ADD PRIMARY WAVE to this as well. Yes Spicer and McMillian are the front men but PRIMARY WAVE is just as negligent if they are letting it happen and are in agreement.

mclihah2 said:

Spot on - I feel every word of what you said in my bones, and I have to say, you’re absolutely right. This is what the slow death of a fandom looks like, and it’s excruciating to witness. Prince deserves so much more than this. He wasn’t just a musician or a cultural icon—he was a force of nature, a genius . And yet here we are, watching his legacy be fumbled, mishandled, and ignored by the very people who are supposed to be its stewards. It’s heartbreaking and incredibly frustrating - Just can't do anything about it

I mean, there's the complete radio silence from the estate. It’s not just disappointing; it’s disrespectful. Over a year since the last SDE? That’s mental, especially given that we know that LoveSymbol SDE is just sat there. Prince left us a vault—a literal treasure trove—of music that he intended to outlast him. He wanted us to hear it. He wanted his artistry to continue to inspire and challenge the world. And what have we gotten instead? A couple of half-hearted releases, endless reissues of albums we already own in every format imaginable, and some tacky merch drops. Oh, joy. How about they take some of that energy spent on slapping Prince’s face on overpriced t-shirts and focus on releasing the actual music?

Londell and Charles clearly have no idea what they’re doing. It’s like they see the vault as a goldmine for quick cash grabs instead of a living, breathing legacy that requires careful, thoughtful curation. I’m not saying every single note Prince recorded is ready for public consumption, but can we get some transparency? Some sense that there’s a plan? That someone—anyone—is thinking beyond the next fiscal quarter? Instead, we’re left in the dark, begging for scraps, while the estate seems content to milk his name dry without giving anything back to the fans who’ve been here for decades.

And don’t even get me started on the lack of effort to bring in new fans. You’re absolutely right: they’re letting Prince’s legacy wither on the vine. Where are the targeted campaigns to introduce his music to younger generations? Where are the collaborations with modern artists to show how influential he still is? Where’s the Netflix series, the biopic, the high-profile tributes that could keep his name alive in popular culture? Instead, they’ve left it up to us, the fans, to keep his memory alive—while simultaneously alienating us with their negligence.

As for the fan community itself? You hit the nail on the head. The forums are either ghost towns or echo chambers, full of the same tired debates about Purple Rain vs. Sign o’ the Times or whether Prince would’ve approved of this or that. And sure, those discussions are fine in moderation, but where’s the excitement? Where’s the sense of discovery? It’s like everyone’s either too jaded or too exhausted to even care anymore. I don’t blame them—it’s hard to stay passionate when it feels like the people in charge of Prince’s legacy couldn’t care less.

But you know what? It doesn’t have to be this way. The potential for a vibrant, thriving Prince fandom is still there. The music—the core of everything—is timeless. Prince has an entire universe of songs, styles, and stories that could resonate with people of all ages if given the chance. But it’s going to take effort. It’s going to take vision. And it’s going to take people in power who actually understand and care about what Prince stood for.

We need to demand better. We need to make our voices heard—not just on forums like this, but directly to the estate, to the media, to anyone who might listen. And we need to do it now, because every day that goes by without meaningful action is another nail in the coffin of Prince’s legacy. This isn’t just about us as fans; it’s about preserving the work of one of the greatest artists of all time. It’s about ensuring that future generations can experience the magic, the audacity, and the brilliance of Prince.

So, yeah, maybe this fandom feels like it’s dying. But I refuse to let it go quietly. We owe it to Prince—and to ourselves—to fight for his legacy. Because if we don’t, who will?

bozojones said:

It has been over a year since the last SDE. The estate has given us zero new music, zero plans for new music, and zero meaningful communication with the fans whatsoever. Londell and Charles have stubbornly refused to listen to any criticism or feedback, no matter how politely given. All they care about is shilling Prince's name and image for quick and easy cash, his musical legacy be damned.

Meanwhile, fan discussion sites are either dead aside from a handful of grouchy old-timers (a la this place), or full of surface level discussion about the same old handful of topics. The long time fans are shrinking in numbers, and the estate has no plan to turn newer generations onto his music to preserve Prince's artistic legacy. It feels like we're all witnessing the dying gasps of the Prince fandom in real time. It was fun while it lasted.

yep.

lurker316 said:

RODSERLING said:

I m sure there was good money to be made from this unreleased material, but these days are long gone. Thé Last Prince concerts released on CD would have been a million seller if released in 2016. W2America sold pretty well considering there was zilch promotion. But they could have done so much more with that project : music videos, a tour with all thé musiciens and chorists involved...That would have been so fucking great considering they are doing a musical right now. Originals could have gained so much hype if they didn't released the Nothing Compares 2U demo the year before... The SDE could have attracted more casual listeners, had they gone chronologically ( beginning with For You, with a Doc about the early years). Going forward, then backwards, then forward... fucking nonsense. Nobody cared.

Are you joking? It's the hardcore fan, not the casual fan, who wants them to go in chronological order. The Estate's strategy of targeting the biggest hits is the way to interest casual fans. It's not necessarily to my personal tastes. Like you, I would love if they went in chronological order. But unlike you, I recognize that my person tastes wouldn't be less appealing to the casual fans.

A complete fallacy.

Stop falling lock step in line with the Estate's propaganda.

You all espoused this sentiment nonstop when D&P SDE came out. "iT hAs HiS mOsT hItS oF tHe 90s, iT hAs tO cOmE oUt". k, and it's literally the worst seller of the entire SDE endeavor, bar none.

What you and the Dollar Menu McMinions fail to account for is Prince has no more casual fans. It's not 1984, it's not 1991. The people who enter the Prince vortex, fully enter the Prince vortex.

From that perspective, chronological would actually hype up the fanbase more and more with each successive release. Then guess what? After only 4 SDE's your beloved "Top Seller" pop albums would naturally come out anyway, to satiate this phantom casual audience that you and others like to imagine is waiting in the sidelines, chomping at the bit to fully immerse themselves in the Prince world if they only had an insipid Netflix doc or yet another re-release of PR...

leecaldon said:

lurker316 said:

Are you joking? It's the hardcore fan, not the casual fan, who wants them to go in chronological order. The Estate's strategy of targeting the biggest hits is the way to interest casual fans. It's not necessarily to my personal tastes. Like you, I would love if they went in chronological order. But unlike you, I recognize that my person tastes wouldn't be less appealing to the casual fans.

Agreed. A chronological release slate would have made no sense at all from a commercial point of view.

SDE's period make "no sense" from a commercial point of view.

The dude has no commmercial clout anymore. He's Captain Obscuro to anyone under 35, which is literally the audience that determines comercial viability.

The Estate is focusing on PR jigsaw puzzles because they agree with your and lurker's hot takes.

Not even sure why you armchair record exec's give 2 fucks about "commmercial point of view" in the first place, but that's another subject entirely. Everyone on the internet these days likes to play Fantasy Corporate Scumbag nonstop. Such a bizarre trend in society.

[Edited 11/19/24 21:10pm]

bozojones said:

JorisE73 said:

LOL so much hyperbole and dramady. Maybe they are actually doing things to right the wrongs and have no time to waste to inform fans about the business behind it, you know, like any professional entity that don't inform there potential customers about anything happening in a company that is not there concern.
It;s not even as bad as it was back in teh mid 90s when all the fans left, that was when hois fandom died a horrible death, so just chill and wait like the rest for them to clean up the mess the previous management left behind. Who knows maybe we'll actyually get something great at last.

Are you new to all this?

Obviously not, but you seem to be.
Prince didn't inform us about anything his entire career and wasn't transparent in the slightest and why should he?
Now they are still doing that (standard business practice) and suddenly it's a problem. Besides the people who do inform us (not here obviously) told us already some of the behind the scenes things going on since 2016, but it seems people here just like to make up things and bash the management for what is only going on in there own heads. Insane.
In the 90s probably 90% of his fanbase moved on but luckily for Prince the internet became a thing and the 10.000 fans left could interact easier with each other and they are still around.
His fandom is exactly where it was back in 98, call it dead or whatever, it doesn't matter in the end.

mclihah2 said:

JorisE73 said:

It;s not even as bad as it was back in teh mid 90s when all the fans left, that was when hois fandom died a horrible death, so just chill and wait like the rest for them to clean up the mess the previous management left behind. Who knows maybe we'll actyually get something great at last.

I personally disagree with you - from my perspective, the mid 90s were an exciting time - there was the promise of all this new amazing music... and Prince was alive to feed the hype and perform live shows... and sell condoms in Camden Town

It didn't matter that the mainstream audience didn't like him - There was new music

I'm not saying the mid 90s wasn't a exiting time, I also love that era, but most of his fans were put off by the name change the lackluster releases that he tried to sabotage etc. and it all showed because he couldn't even sell out arenas anymore.

JorisE73 said:

mclihah2 said:

I personally disagree with you - from my perspective, the mid 90s were an exciting time - there was the promise of all this new amazing music... and Prince was alive to feed the hype and perform live shows... and sell condoms in Camden Town

It didn't matter that the mainstream audience didn't like him - There was new music

I'm not saying the mid 90s wasn't a exiting time, I also love that era, but most of his fans were put off by the name change the lackluster releases that he tried to sabotage etc. and it all showed because he couldn't even sell out arenas anymore.

Although, from 1997 on, that with every new album, he mostly played his eighties hits live, somehow to please that common crowd maybe?

He barely performed new songs from new released stuff, for which he toured.

things like SDEs are for paid up hardcore fans.

but things like the netflix doc (RIP) will be to lure in other people. same way films like the recent elvis biopic are made, with the studios knowing that they are not just for hardcore elvis fans, but for people interested in the story, the myth, the legend, etc etc.

prince can still have that appeal to non-fans.

JorisE73 said:

mclihah2 said:

I personally disagree with you - from my perspective, the mid 90s were an exciting time - there was the promise of all this new amazing music... and Prince was alive to feed the hype and perform live shows... and sell condoms in Camden Town

It didn't matter that the mainstream audience didn't like him - There was new music

I'm not saying the mid 90s wasn't a exiting time, I also love that era, but most of his fans were put off by the name change the lackluster releases that he tried to sabotage etc. and it all showed because he couldn't even sell out arenas anymore.

lol....musicology was literally arenas.........in the 2,000s.

JorisE73 said:

bozojones said:

Are you new to all this?

Obviously not, but you seem to be.
Prince didn't inform us about anything his entire career and wasn't transparent in the slightest and why should he?
Now they are still doing that (standard business practice) and suddenly it's a problem. Besides the people who do inform us (not here obviously) told us already some of the behind the scenes things going on since 2016, but it seems people here just like to make up things and bash the management for what is only going on in there own heads. Insane.
In the 90s probably 90% of his fanbase moved on but luckily for Prince the internet became a thing and the 10.000 fans left could interact easier with each other and they are still around.
His fandom is exactly where it was back in 98, call it dead or whatever, it doesn't matter in the end.

Londell and Charles aren't Prince. They shouldn't be trying to emulate the more frustrating parts of Prince's career and personality, either. They run the estate and should work with a professional transparency of what is going on and what fans can expect. If you don't agree with that, well, I hope you enjoy this current shitshow.