The CD versions $113

LP version is $228


On Amazon for Black Friday!

I have the LP edition of this and I have to say it basically killed my Prince listening for the best part of a year.... to me it's the first big misfire of the Super Deluxe Editions.... the b-sides etc feel incomplete, and with the vault tracks there's just swathes of them that are junk... like, really bad.

And the remaster of the album itself was a dud.

This release actually made me like Prince less (!!) - which I never thought would be possible.

The live show is good, but, eh.....

My vinyl set is now for sale. Never would I have imagined this could be the case, as someone who was always a 'give me everything he did!' Prince fan.

RODSERLING said:

What s the point in buying that album on vinyl ? It was conceived for a CD release. Concerts and unreleased tracks are a joke on vinyl. Just a sucker thing, especially when the master and sound are exactly thé same nowadays on those releases. [Edited 11/24/24 7:28am]

I agree I do buy vinyl for new stuff but never box sets for the reasons you just said also because of costs but how often do I go back and listen to a alternate take of Cream or whatever

Just to have it, to collect things, as objects.

Simple as that.

Like those who buy stuff, left unwrapped forever (which i will never understand).

Each one his own, right?

These questions being asked a million times here, just let it be.

They're irrelevant questions.

No need to shove your or mine opinion on that down others throats.

I collect vinyl, I play it, over and over, all 11K of them.

But, really, why are people still buying vinyls? (Just kidding. )

olb99 said:

But, really, why are people still buying vinyls? (Just kidding. )

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But really, why the fuck... ahhhh, leave it.

olb99 said:

But, really, why are people still buying vinyls? (Just kidding. )

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For the limited dynamics, high price, inconvenience, distortion, noise, and above all: nostalgia.

Kares said:

olb99 said:

But, really, why are people still buying vinyls? (Just kidding. )

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For the limited dynamics, high price, inconvenience, distortion, noise, and above all: nostalgia.

That and I think they can be beautiful objects. I would collect them if I had more rooms in my home. Maybe. Until then, it's FLAC files for me.

olb99 said:

Kares said:

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For the limited dynamics, high price, inconvenience, distortion, noise, and above all: nostalgia.

That and I think they can be beautiful objects. I would collect them if I had more rooms in my home. Maybe. Until then, it's FLAC files for me.

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They CAN be beautiful, I agree, but many rereleases I see aren't even that beautiful, as labels often can't find the original artwork masters so they resort to scanning old sleeves and that results in subpar quality prints.

Kares said:

olb99 said:

That and I think they can be beautiful objects. I would collect them if I had more rooms in my home. Maybe. Until then, it's FLAC files for me.

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They CAN be beautiful, I agree, but many rereleases I see aren't even that beautiful, as labels often can't find the original artwork masters so they resort to scanning old sleeves and that results in subpar quality prints.

^True that!

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Comparing an original artwork from Prince's second album (or any re-press from the 80's) to the reissues from last decade show a totally different shade of blue and a lack of definition. Even on the product pics online it's obvious and you can tell the difference from a XXI century reissue to an "original".

On a related note, Amazon Black Friday deal for Purple Rain 4K is $10.99.

psyche2 said:

I'm not sure how many of you are in the UK but amazon UK just dropped to £112.49 for the vinyl super deluxe set...

What a price.

tonyspr said:

I'm not sure how many of you are in the UK but amazon UK just dropped to £112.49 for the vinyl super deluxe set...

What a price.

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Just bought one for €133 (£110) at amazon.de with free shipping to Hungary.

Kares said:

tonyspr said:

I'm not sure how many of you are in the UK but amazon UK just dropped to £112.49 for the vinyl super deluxe set...

What a price.

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Just bought one for €133 (£110) at amazon.de with free shipping to Hungary.

Is that a case of cognitive dissonance?

RODSERLING said:

What s the point in buying that album on vinyl ? It was conceived for a CD release. Concerts and unreleased tracks are a joke on vinyl. Just a sucker thing, especially when the master and sound are exactly thé same nowadays on those releases. [Edited 11/24/24 7:28am]

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Totally agree. My only reason for going for the vinyl version anyway is the artwork. More precisely: the tape box photos that are on the vinyl sleeves. And I hate having to buy a ton of vinyl (that I'll never play) just to get those photos.
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As I suggested many times before: why not just add an LP-sized, extra booklet with all this extra artwork to the CD version for those of us who'd prefer CDs? And as long as the set comes in a hard box, there's no need to make the book hardback too. It would make manufacturing and shipping costs so much lower while maintaining profit margins.

Rimshottbob said:

[Edited 12/1/24 22:59pm]

Trufunksoulja said:

databank said:

Everyone here knows I've been very vocal about things I believe the Estate handled poorly, but one thing I will never, EVER blame them for doing is releasing music, including subpar material. There was a lot of subpar material on D&P (and TBH, on SOTT as well), but this is what archive projects are for: for every masterpiece Prince chose to sit on like All My Dreams, there will be 10 songs he wisely decided to keep for himself, and demos are what the name suggests: hasty drafts, works in progress. I want to hear all that stuff. I find it interesting. Before the Internet, I used to spend a lot on shitty sounding bootlegs so I could hear that sort of stuff (and so did most of us).

I totally agree with this.

There is a reason why it is an outtake: maybe according to P it was not fished, some doodling, did not fit an album or maybe he created it to just get it out of his effin system.

Whatever the reasons I want to hear everything: the good, the bad and the fugly.

I don't want the Estate's opinion of subpar material to block a release.

I can judge for myself.

Yes and even the very explicit music needs to be released.

And I like the SDE as is, however: please get rid of the edits, those have no business on a SDE and takes up precious space.

Trufunksoulja said:

Trufunksoulja said:

There is a reason why it is an outtake

And the reason is not always a lack of quality. "Crystal Ball", one of my favorite Prince songs of all time, has been an outtake for 12 years (1986-1998). It's probably an exception in that regard, but, still, there are gems in the vault.

olb99 said:

Trufunksoulja said:

And the reason is not always a lack of quality. "Crystal Ball", one of my favorite Prince songs of all time, has been an outtake for 12 years (1986-1998). It's probably an exception in that regard, but, still, there are gems in the vault.

yesss, exactly!

btw a bit off topic, but recently I have found a CB rehearsal, freakin amazing!

databank said:

Rimshottbob said:

I have the LP edition of this and I have to say it basically killed my Prince listening for the best part of a year.... to me it's the first big misfire of the Super Deluxe Editions.... the b-sides etc feel incomplete, and with the vault tracks there's just swathes of them that are junk... like, really bad.

And the remaster of the album itself was a dud.

This release actually made me like Prince less (!!) - which I never thought would be possible.

The live show is good, but, eh.....

My vinyl set is now for sale. Never would I have imagined this could be the case, as someone who was always a 'give me everything he did!' Prince fan.

Everyone here knows I've been very vocal about things I believe the Estate handled poorly, but one thing I will never, EVER blame them for doing is releasing music, including subpar material. There was a lot of subpar material on D&P (and TBH, on SOTT as well), but this is what archive projects are for: for every masterpiece Prince chose to sit on like All My Dreams, there will be 10 songs he wisely decided to keep for himself, and demos are what the name suggests: hasty drafts, works in progress. I want to hear all that stuff. I find it interesting. Before the Internet, I used to spend a lot on shitty sounding bootlegs so I could hear that sort of stuff (and so did most of us).

I see what you mean, but the issue with the D&P Super Deluxe is the subpar material and the lack of comprehensiveness together. If at least they'd have offered a more complete picture of Prince's drawing board from 1990-91 it would make a bit more sense even if I (or we) don't really like it that much. But the end result is a hodgepodge and not even very good at it.

Trufunksoulja said:

olb99 said:

And the reason is not always a lack of quality. "Crystal Ball", one of my favorite Prince songs of all time, has been an outtake for 12 years (1986-1998). It's probably an exception in that regard, but, still, there are gems in the vault.

yesss, exactly!

btw a bit off topic, but recently I have found a CB rehearsal, freakin amazing!

It's been a topic here a while ago, go look for it here.

Indeed a great find, leak, thing to hear.

A difficult piece for The Revolution to rehearse.

Vannormal said:

Trufunksoulja said:

yesss, exactly!

btw a bit off topic, but recently I have found a CB rehearsal, freakin amazing!

It's been a topic here a while ago, go look for it here.

Indeed a great find, leak, thing to hear.

A difficult piece for The Revolution to rehearse.

Thanks Van!

Yeah this one is indeed a technical challenge.

psyche2 said:

Kares said:

tonyspr said:

I'm not sure how many of you are in the UK but amazon UK just dropped to £112.49 for the vinyl super deluxe set...

What a price.

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Just bought one for €133 (£110) at amazon.de with free shipping to Hungary.

Did you receive it yet? I saw your remark and bought one. But it doesn't change status and is still being processed for shipping.

spaceboy said:

Kares said:

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Just bought one for €133 (£110) at amazon.de with free shipping to Hungary.

Did you receive it yet? I saw your remark and bought one. But it doesn't change status and is still being processed for shipping.

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Mine's shipped, it's on its way, I'll get it tomorrow.