^all of which was known to anyone paying attention in 1992!

psyche2 said:

SoulAlive said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

RODSERLING said:

They Don't give a shit about projects that are not leading to millions of $. There are not people paid for that job anymore ( running the vault and the existing catalogue). They are instead working on profitable projects ( that I Hope, won't sée thé light of day)

like this??

jungleshot1 said:

Have to ADD PRIMARY WAVE to this as well. Yes Spicer and McMillian are the front men but PRIMARY WAVE is just as negligent if they are letting it happen and are in agreement.

They aren't (always) in agreement, but Londell vetos everything. He is the #1 problem, full stop.

SoulAlive said:

Exactly !

But... they can't.

We know why,

... sort of, not all 100% clear though.

But it's what it is; nothing will happen in BIG YEAR!.

SoulAlive said:

Record Store Day is in a week and not surprisingly,there is nothing for Prince fans.Why can’t they just throw us a bone every now and then? How about a Camille vinyl release or even a Black Album anniversary release?! I would settle for that.

ItsOnlyMountains said:

Let's be fair : I think both sides are the main problem

andrewm7new said:

The Netflix documentary would bring Prince back into the public consciousness and I would certainly like to see it as it is.

Surely there must be some way to edit it to assuage some of the concerns that the estate has , I would certainly watch it if it was nothing but performance footage.

It was imagined as a biography and I am uncertain that concept could ever be realised with so little or no input from Prince (unavoidable). As it stands it is what everyone else glimpsed combined and can only be viewed though that lens.

The fandom is a strange beast and would be very difficult to come up with material that would energise and intrigue lifers like me and still tickle the interest of the "really loved purple rain, never dived deeper crowd"

[Edited 11/18/24 19:12pm]

The Netflix doc was the only hope to get Prince's name out there but alas !

It will be released somehow and then the whole controversy (via the media) will play out again,
that is, exactly the same reasons why they are putting it on hold for so long.

I'm pretty sure about this.

-

I was thinking the other day, maybe Spicer, Londell and Primary Wave are doing it for exactly this reason, to build even more controversy, to create more buzz, more hype, and maybe to result in more money?
Let's hope that's not the case.

How perverse the idea alone...
Like all the blather to protect his sanctity, his so-called legacy.
I hope I am dead wrong.

this fandom is dead eh?

meanwhile, as this forum is on life support, a thread about a new outtake leak
garners 800+ views in a couple of hours.

the fans are still (t)here, but people just want the music, not all the bullshit or the fluff.

"This fandom" will never die. I'm working on it. I'm brainwas... I mean, I'm educating my 6-year-old son. One day, he'll be a fan, too.

fredmagnus said:

Let's be fair : I think both sides are the main problem

contrary of what i thought 1st ....Mc Millan/Spicer are trying to push the train in the right direction but Primary wave is blocking all the (good) proposals from them it seems !

love2thenines2003 said:

fredmagnus said:

Let's be fair : I think both sides are the main problem

contrary of what i thought 1st ....Mc Millan/Spicer are trying to push the train in the right direction but Primary wave is blocking all the (good) proposals from them it seems !

No.

Yeah, ok. Who is the one that had, what, fourteen pages of changes/demands about the Netflix doc? It wasn't anyone from Primary Wave. People who (still) think Llondell (and Spicer) actually GAF are delusional.

love2thenines2003 said:

fredmagnus said:

Let's be fair : I think both sides are the main problem

contrary of what i thought 1st ....Mc Millan/Spicer are trying to push the train in the right direction but Primary wave is blocking all the (good) proposals from them it seems !

Stop drinking the koolaid.

olb99 said:

Vannormal said:

If this fandom is dead, it is because of this fandom (site).
There is too much disagreement, blaming, chasing mistakes, splitting into camps and childish attitudes, (about sharing music for example alone or where to find something).

This is a sure reason why so many peope left here.

More reasons:

- this site is old, badly maintained, regularly down, threads are regularly disappearing and never re-appearing, etc.

- no proper release since October 2023

- no upcoming release to get excited about

- fans are getting (even) older (and, yes, they also die)

- many other places to discuss Prince (Discord servers, other forums, Reddit, Facebook, etc.)

[Edited 11/21/24 9:02am]

I know, very frustrating.

Vannormal said:

Vannormal said:

It will be released somehow and then the whole controversy (via the media) will play out again,
that is, exactly the same reasons why they are putting it on hold for so long.

I'm pretty sure about this.

-

I was thinking the other day, maybe Spicer, Londell and Primary Wave are doing it for exactly this reason, to build even more controversy, to create more buzz, more hype, and maybe to result in more money?
Let's hope that's not the case.

How perverse the idea alone...
Like all the blather to protect his sanctity, his so-called legacy.
I hope I am dead wrong.

I don't know about Londell, etc... creating hype and all that, but I definitely think it will come out ar some point. Netflix doesn't spend $10Million for no reason, and it seems like the estate is being held up by this not being settled.

RODSERLING said:

Vannormal said:

It will be released somehow and then the whole controversy (via the media) will play out again,
that is, exactly the same reasons why they are putting it on hold for so long.

I'm pretty sure about this.

-

I was thinking the other day, maybe Spicer, Londell and Primary Wave are doing it for exactly this reason, to build even more controversy, to create more buzz, more hype, and maybe to result in more money?
Let's hope that's not the case.

How perverse the idea alone...
Like all the blather to protect his sanctity, his so-called legacy.
I hope I am dead wrong.

Your theory is so beyond ridiculous, when it s so obvious why they are putting it on hold forever. Unless Netflix is going to court, or cut it down to six hours, of course. But thé 9 hours version will never be released officially, everyone understood that.

The 9 hours don't need to be released officially.

There always will be leaks.

Patience is a virtue, and we have nothing else but trust on that.

I can wait. This year's promises are all fucked up anyways.

Someone here reminded us of this too; we have hundreds of hours of music to listen to.

I'm sure every one of us still has Prince material they even didn't listen to or watch.

Even stuff that won't make the 9 hours doc.

That's how much Prince left us, no other artist nearly did the same.

Put on top of that the even bigger mountain of the unreleased stuff circulating.