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Thread started 11/16/24 12:55am

ghostof82

Dearly Beloved : A Prince Songbook

My copy arrived yesterday, its a lovely package with substantial liner notes- each song is listed in the booklet with a quote from the artist about why they chose the song/when they recorded it/ what Prince meant to them.

Its a lovely little tribute to Prince, the kind of thing the Estate should have done but seems beyond them. Its not overblown/ridiculously expensive,but nonetheless its a handsomely-produced package with genuine care given to it. Some rarities (for me, at least) and lots of 'new' (to me) cover versions that are quite interesting. They (the Estate) could do worse than just let Cherry Red handle future Prince releases. Its suppose to be about the music, after all.

Hope this sells well and Cherry Red can do a second collection next year. There's worse ways of keeping Prince's name 'alive' and in the public conciousness.

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Reply #1 posted 11/18/24 8:37am

Vannormal

Track Listings

Disc: 1

1 Love... thy will be done (Single Version) - Martika
2 Sugar walls - Easton, Sheena
3 Manic Monday (12" Extended Mix) - Bangles, The
4 The dance electric (Single Version) - Cymone, André
5 Yo Mister (Single Version) - Labelle, Patti
6 Oooh this I need - Fiorillo, Elisa
7 The sex of it - Kid Creole & The Coconuts
8 In a word or 2 (Paisley Park Mix) - Love, Monie
9 I want U (Purple Version) - Gaines, Rosie
10 You're my love - Rogers, Kenny
11 If I love U 2 nite (Nellee's Club U 2 Nite Edit) - Paris, Mica
12 Sex - Lane, Loïs
13 Baby go-go (7" Alge Mix) - Hendryx, Nona
14 U - Abdul, Paula
15 Shall we dance? - Brownmark
16 Van Gogh - Van Gogh
17 Dream of fire - Moura, Ana / Hancock, Herbie
18 North Carolina - Shelby J / Hamilton, Anthony

Disc: 2

1 I wanna be your lover - Bailey Rae, Corinne
2 How come U don't call me anymore? - Mills, Stephanie
3 I am - Lang, Jonny
4 I feel for you - Pointer Sisters
5 Do me baby (Single Edit) - Morgan, Meli'sa
6 Uptown - Waters, Crystal
7 Crazy you - Carter, Valerie
8 Walk don't walk - Traces Gospel Choir
9 Why you wanna treat me so bad? - Tuesday Knight
10 Adore (Radio Version) - Roberts, Joe
11 Gotta broken heart again - Hurd, Debra
12 Gigolos get lonely too (1996 Players Version) - Passion
13 Soft and wet - N'Dambi
14 Irresistible bitch - Mellow Man Ace / Geo
15 Damn U - Workshop
16 I could never take the place of your man - Knight, Jordan
17 It's gonna be lonely - Princess / Starbreeze
18 Sometimes it snows in April - Sparks, Bobby II / Wright, Lizz

Disc: 3

1 Sexy dancer - 7 Hurtz / Peaches / Bitch Lap Lap
2 Take me with U - Jones, Sharon & The Dap-Kings
3 Sign o' the times - Hue & Cry
4 When you were mine - Lambchop
5 Pop life - Dead Or Alive
6 Jack U off - Robyn
7 Vibrator - Dirty Monroes, The
8 Joy in repetition - Kurtz, Dayna
9 Love 2 the 9's - Mailhot, Michelle
10 How come U don't call me anymore? - Bilal
11 Controversy - Surferosa
12 Call my name - James, Morgan
13 Partyman - Stilgoe, Joe
14 Other side of the mirror - Parker, Maceo
15 Paisley Park - Almedal, Anne Marie
16 Purple rain - Palmer, Amanda / Bischoff, Jherek
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #2 posted 11/18/24 7:13pm

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As I noted in the previous thread, I find it rather remarkable that it contains an unauthorized first release of Vibrator and that the Estate didn't do anything to stop it (while any artist is free to cover any song, said song has to have been released first, and this requires authorization from the songwriters, something Prince clearly didn't give The Dirty Monroes back in 2003).

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Also, the "songs given to others and covers" concept, as well as the title, is a total rip-off of an old comp from 1998: https://www.discogs.com/m...-Songbook.

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As with Symbolism, the tracklist appears somewhat random and I'm not sure if it really works as a whole listening experience, but it's good to see some Prince-related releases for lack of the Estate releasing something.

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/
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Reply #3 posted 11/20/24 12:56pm

Astasheiks

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Very Interesting. Really Dig the Dove with Purple Rain Background! yes eye wildsign woot!

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Reply #4 posted 11/20/24 2:50pm

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databank said:

As I noted in the previous thread, I find it rather remarkable that it contains an unauthorized first release of Vibrator and that the Estate didn't do anything to stop it (while any artist is free to cover any song, said song has to have been released first, and this requires authorization from the songwriters, something Prince clearly didn't give The Dirty Monroes back in 2003).


I don't think a song needs to have been officially released for artists to release their own cover. A few bands did this with "In A Large Room With No Light" before Prince's rerecording was released, according to Princevault:

  • The early version of In A Large Room With No Light was in wide circulation among collectors since the end of the eighties and was wrongly believed to be titled Welcome 2 The Rat Race (after a line in the chorus). This song was included on albums and officially released by two acts before Prince released his new version in July 2009. As Ratrace it was first sung by T.M. Stevens and Marco Minnemann’s band named Illegal Aliens on their album International Telephone in 2000 (a promo release). American singer Wil Key released his own version (titled Welcome 2 The Rat Race) on his album Satisfy My Soul in January 2009 (which led to the registration of the song at the ASCAP as Welcome 2 The Rat Race). Since Prince was not associated with those acts and was not involved on these releases which were done without his consent or knowledge at that time, their versions are not listed above and are considered as cover versions although they were released before Prince’s
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Reply #5 posted 11/21/24 6:54am

databank

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bozojones said:

databank said:

As I noted in the previous thread, I find it rather remarkable that it contains an unauthorized first release of Vibrator and that the Estate didn't do anything to stop it (while any artist is free to cover any song, said song has to have been released first, and this requires authorization from the songwriters, something Prince clearly didn't give The Dirty Monroes back in 2003).


I don't think a song needs to have been officially released for artists to release their own cover. A few bands did this with "In A Large Room With No Light" before Prince's rerecording was released, according to Princevault:

  • The early version of In A Large Room With No Light was in wide circulation among collectors since the end of the eighties and was wrongly believed to be titled Welcome 2 The Rat Race (after a line in the chorus). This song was included on albums and officially released by two acts before Prince released his new version in July 2009. As Ratrace it was first sung by T.M. Stevens and Marco Minnemann’s band named Illegal Aliens on their album International Telephone in 2000 (a promo release). American singer Wil Key released his own version (titled Welcome 2 The Rat Race) on his album Satisfy My Soul in January 2009 (which led to the registration of the song at the ASCAP as Welcome 2 The Rat Race). Since Prince was not associated with those acts and was not involved on these releases which were done without his consent or knowledge at that time, their versions are not listed above and are considered as cover versions although they were released before Prince’s

Look it up, it's called right of first release or something. I assure you one cannot release a song by a songwriter for the first time without such songwriters' consent (which makes sense, just imagine if anyone could steal your demo and release your own song before you do!). I'm aware of those Large Room covers (it's not mentioned in the Pvault text you quoted but some other band had already released it in the mid 90s). It's happened a few times with this song and a few others and people got away with it, either because Prince didn't know or didn't care, but he could have taken legal action and the Estate could, too.

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That said, I don't think harrassing a small indie band or a respected reissues label for something that was originally released 21 years ago would be great publicity for the Estate.

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Reply #6 posted 11/25/24 2:12am

Raevene

I've now had a full listen and it's a pretty solid collection. There are some fantastic covers on here like Robyn's Jack U Off, Love 2 the 9's by Michelle Mailhot and the hauntingly beautiful Purple Rain by Amanda Palmer. Disc 3 starts off badly with four terrible (in my opinion) covers and the very weird Partyman by Joe Stilgoe towards the end of the disc, but everything here is going to be subjective. In terms of the original tracks there are several that haven't had CD releases before so definitely a must buy for collectors.

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