I dont get what the estate are getting out of this current holding pattern? - Prince's hardcore fans are just getting older and older -

The next generation / Young people just aren't interested (to my 13 year old buy/girl twins... Prince is just a strange pervert - They've got Gorillaz and K-pop)

I would be surprised if the music rights ae going up in value.

What have the estate got to benefit from sitting on this, and faffing around with musicals and boat tours?

Any ideas?

I'm asking, for the hope that somebody will have the answers to this crazy quandry - As the alternative is madness

[Edited 10/17/24 6:44am]

PR DE

1999 SDE

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D&P SDE

Just one more infinity stone, then they will snap their finger and get rid of 50% of the fanbase.

mclihah2 said:

I dont get what the estate are getting out of this current holding pattern? - Prince's hardcore fans are just getting older and older -

>

The next generation / Young people just aren't interested (to my 13 year old buy/girl twins... Prince is just a strange pervert - They've got Gorillaz and K-pop)

>

I would be surprised if the music rights ae going up in value.

>

What have the estate got to benefit from sitting on this, and faffing around with musicals and boat tours?

>

Any ideas?

>

I'm asking, for the hope that somebody will have the answers to this crazy quandry - As the alternative is madness

...AND NOT HIT RECORD IN THE VAULT...ALL THIS TIME.

To milk as much money from nostalgic casual fans as possible while putting forth the least effort possible.

End game?

They don't give a shit.........

bozojones said:

To milk as much money from nostalgic casual fans as possible while putting forth the least effort possible.

bozojones said:

I think the people in charge of the Estate don't even have the intellect to think about an end game. They have nothing to do with the music industry or anything, they just were blood relations to a musical genius and want to try and fleece the fans for as much cash as possible in the short term

strawberryletter23 said:

I think the people in charge of the Estate don't even have the intellect to think about an end game. They have nothing to do with the music industry or anything, they just were blood relations to a musical genius and want to try and fleece the fans for as much cash as possible in the short term

.. but that's the trick - If they want to flleece the fans then godammn release some products - But maybe that also makes sense - You might want to fleece the fans, but if you don't have anything to do with the music industry then

A - You wouldn't have a clue as to what a sensible release strategy would be to make money - You just wouldn't have the business instinct or creative vision (both of which are helpful

B - Even if you *did* have any of the above, you don't have the accumen or connections to initiate the logistics to make it happen

Man, this thing is depressing - But. I find myself posting a lot as a sort of therapy - I think I'm working my mental exit strategy from my Prince obsession.. onto other matters. I don't know whether others are doing the same (i.e. this being group therapy) or whether it's just me.... but I have firmlucome to the conclusion that this is group therapy for me

My next problem is... what the hell do I do with all my Symbol stickers and t-shirts? (I have them on my laptops, my bags, my phones, my keys, my wallet - Everywhere - Maybe I'll just hold on to them - Prince has been such a big part of my life since the 80s, and very much after his death also - But it *feels* like it's all finally over - This feels like a second mourning

Or maybe I just need to get a grip - move on, and then get excited again if there's ever a need

[Edited 10/17/24 6:45am]

mclihah2 said:

strawberryletter23 said:

I think the people in charge of the Estate don't even have the intellect to think about an end game. They have nothing to do with the music industry or anything, they just were blood relations to a musical genius and want to try and fleece the fans for as much cash as possible in the short term

.. but that's the trick - If they want to flleece the fans then godammn release some products - But maybe that also makes sense - You might want to fleece the fans, but if you don't have anything to do with the music industry then

.

A - You wouldn't have a clue as to what a sensible release strategy would be to make money - You just wouldn't have the business instinct or creative vision (both of which are helpful

.

B - Even if you *did* have any of the above, you don't have the accumen or connections to initiate the logistics to make it happen

.

Man, this thing is depressing - But. I find myself posting a lot as a sort of therapy - I think I'm working my mental exit strategy from my Prince obsession.. onto other matters. I don't know whether others are doing the same (i.e. this being group therapy) or whether it's just me.... but I have firmlucome to the conclusion that this is group therapy for me

.

My next problem is... what the hell do I do with all my Symbol stickers and t-shirts? (I have them on my laptops, my bags, my phones, my keys, my wallet - Everywhere - Maybe I'll just hold on to them - Prince has been such a big part of my life since the 80s, and very much after his death also - But it *feels* like it's all finally over - This feels like a second mourning

.

.

Or maybe I just need to get a grip - move on, and then get excited again if there's ever a need

I get your frustartions but maybe just relax and listen to what you already have, it's not the end of the world or anything

Gorillaz are still big? Is it the cartoon gimmick? Because literally those guys came out 23 years ago.

bozojones said:

To milk as much money from nostalgic casual fans as possible while putting forth the least effort possible.

Londell/Spicer seem like casuals themselves.

Maybe it's like they really can't fathom why fans wouldn't want to live in a world of endless puffy Mozart shirts and 1984 kitsch.

WhisperingDandelions said:

Gorillaz are still big? Is it the cartoon gimmick? Because literally those guys came out 23 years ago.

Yeah, that's the funny thing - Gorillaz were my jam back in the day, and they have translated well to this generation - They're still producing music and I think it's the eclectic nature of their music that plays so well.

That being said, my son won't go anywhere near Prince, and I think it's probably due to how Prince comes across - I can't put my finger on it - It's like that crazy whiny pervy old man (and that Lovesexy picture on Prince.org just doesn't help )

But he *is* 13, so maybe things will change when he's older... who knows?

Anyway, my whole purpose for mentioning Gorillaz was that they ARE an old band and the kids love 'em... but not Prince...

The people that really love Prince, are getting older, and older and older....

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WhisperingDandelions said:

bozojones said:

To milk as much money from nostalgic casual fans as possible while putting forth the least effort possible.

Londell/Spicer seem like casuals themselves.

Maybe it's like they really can't fathom why fans wouldn't want to live in a world of endless puffy Mozart shirts and 1984 kitsch.

I;m still baffled about the fact that Prince even gave Londell a producing credit

JorisE73 said:

I get your frustartions but maybe just relax and listen to what you already have, it's not the end of the world or anything

Thanks, politely put... and so .. exactly on the money

.

My problem is, I'm an obsessive..... I can get quite intense at times - but you're right..... I will try to take a chill pill.

mclihah2 said:

JorisE73 said:

I get your frustartions but maybe just relax and listen to what you already have, it's not the end of the world or anything

Thanks, politely put... and so .. exactly on the money

.

My problem is, I'm an obsessive..... I can get quite intense at times - but you're right..... I will try to take a chill pill.

then some serious advise and seek professional help, because you sound like dramaqueen Questlove when he claimed he needed therapy after watching the doc. Some people are just a bit extra
Be obsessive about your own life and watch it soar.

JorisE73 said:

mclihah2 said:

Thanks, politely put... and so .. exactly on the money

.

My problem is, I'm an obsessive..... I can get quite intense at times - but you're right..... I will try to take a chill pill.

then some serious advise and seek professional help, because you sound like dramaqueen Questlove when he claimed he needed therapy after watching the doc. Some people are just a bit extra
Be obsessive about your own life and watch it soar.

Thanks again, I love your honesty

.

I *am* a drama queen - It was my then-fiance, now wife, who pointed it out to me... oh 30 years ago... what a lightbulb moment.

.

I'm also blessed in that I'm lucky enough to be able to put my real-life obsessive energy into my family - Through love, energy and commitment . - Used to be work, but post-50 me knows better

.

This online posting is kinda the hobby part of my brain - I guess it comes across as exaggerated... I suppose because it is... I'm only pointing this out because you seem like a nice enough person so I

wanted to reciprocate with truth..... I guess to let you know that I'm probably more fruitcakey here than real life because it's anonymous

.

I do enjoy unspoolng the Prince-obsession side of myself on here however - Hell last thing I want to do in real life is have a rant about the estate with my family - Lol I can't image how that would go down!!!

mclihah2 said:

JorisE73 said:

then some serious advise and seek professional help, because you sound like dramaqueen Questlove when he claimed he needed therapy after watching the doc. Some people are just a bit extra
Be obsessive about your own life and watch it soar.

Thanks again, I love your honesty

.

I *am* a drama queen - It was my then-fiance, now wife, who pointed it out to me... oh 30 years ago... what a lightbulb moment.

.

I'm also blessed in that I'm lucky enough to be able to put my real-life obsessive energy into my family - Through love, energy and commitment . - Used to be work, but post-50 me knows better

.

This online posting is kinda the hobby part of my brain - I guess it comes across as exaggerated... I suppose because it is... I'm only pointing this out because you seem like a nice enough person so I

wanted to reciprocate with truth..... I guess to let you know that I'm probably more fruitcakey here than real life because it's anonymous

.

I do enjoy unspoolng the Prince-obsession side of myself on here however - Hell last thing I want to do in real life is have a rant about the estate with my family - Lol I can't image how that would go down!!!

I get it, I'm also over 50 (51 to be exact) but getting all worked up over Prince was 'fun' when he was alive but now it';s just not something to care about. He's not around anymore to tour so that stressful thing has gone and now it's just waiting on whatever will get released eventually, no biggie. There is more than enough released and unreleased material to listen to even tho you proabbaly already have

JorisE73 said:

I get it, I'm also over 50 (51 to be exact) but getting all worked up over Prince was 'fun' when he was alive but now it';s just not something to care about. He's not around anymore to tour so that stressful thing has gone and now it's just waiting on whatever will get released eventually, no biggie. There is more than enough released and unreleased material to listen to even tho you proabbaly already have

Yes, agreed with you again

-

I have terabytes of stuff - More than I can handle.. and so much of it AFTER Prince died - But you're right, it was worth getting excited when Prince was the one calling the shots - Now it's just money people haplessly bumping into each other!!!

People have lost sight in contemporary times that you're supposed to integrate hyperbole in online interactions.

It's not real life. Despite modern society's disdain for the written word, the written word is primarily how we express ourselves online, so why not make it more energetic/? It's more compelling to read that way.

Lately there's been this movement to "evolve" online interactions into this chill cafe-esque "grounded" discussion like we're in the waiting room at our psychoanalysts office. It's boring and zones out readers.

Either keep it compelling or follow your own advice and go out and fly a kite with the fam.

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WhisperingDandelions said:

People have lost sight in contemporary times that you're supposed to integrate hyperbole in online interactions.

It's not real life. Despite modern society's disdain for the written word, the written word is primarily how we express ourselves online, so why not make it more energetic/? It's more compelling to read that way.

Lately there's been this movement to "evolve" online interactions into this chill cafe-esque "grounded" discussion like we're in the waiting room at our psychoanalysts office. It's boring and zones out readers.

Either keep it compelling or follow your own advice and go out and fly a kite with the fam.

[Edited 10/16/24 13:10pm]

i know, right?

my response was the funniest one yet

WhisperingDandelions said:

People have lost sight in contemporary times that you're supposed to integrate hyperbole in online interactions.

It's not real life. Despite modern society's disdain for the written word, the written word is primarily how we express ourselves online, so why not make it more energetic/? It's more compelling to read that way.

Lately there's been this movement to "evolve" online interactions into this chill cafe-esque "grounded" discussion like we're in the waiting room at our psychoanalysts office. It's boring and zones out readers.

Either keep it compelling or follow your own advice and go out and fly a kite with the fam.

[Edited 10/16/24 13:10pm]

i disagree. Over the top interactions are off putting to me (online and offline) and don'[t make me take them seriously and zones me out, but to each there own off course, if that kind of interaction works for you then good on you.

mclihah2 said:

I dont get what the estate are getting out of this current holding pattern? - Prince's hardcore fans are just getting older and older -

>

The next generation / Young people just aren't interested (to my 13 year old buy/girl twins... Prince is just a strange pervert - They've got Gorillaz and K-pop)

>

I would be surprised if the music rights ae going up in value.

>

What have the estate got to benefit from sitting on this, and faffing around with musicals and boat tours?

>

Any ideas?

>

I'm asking, for the hope that somebody will have the answers to this crazy quandry - As the alternative is madness

I feel that we are in the end game right now.

>

The Estate receives a lot of dollars with licensing everything related to PR and the hit singles.

This is their moneymaker therefore it seems that they are not invested in releasing or focusing on anything else.

>

They are also keeping the Vault hostage for Celebrations like an incentive to buy overpriced (VIP) tickets.

[Edited 10/17/24 3:14am]

WhisperingDandelions said:

Gorillaz are still big? Is it the cartoon gimmick? Because literally those guys came out 23 years ago.

That was my main takeaway from this thread too. Looks like they released a new album last year.

As for the estate, I have no idea. I've lost interest really. I'll keep checking in here and I'll instantly buy any release that has muisc I don't already own. But what their plan or end game is, I don't even care any more. I'm resigned to the fact that they hate us more than Prince did.

One thing I do know though.

If you press

Shift + Enter

You get a line break and people don't need to punctatute between paragraphs with > or .

EnglishGent2 said:

One thing I do know though.

If you press

Shift + Enter

You get a line break and people don't need to punctatute between paragraphs with > or .

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Germanegro said:

I LIKE the ">" line break--a single-keystroke solution. > Whatever, about the Estate management. They have their lives and I have mine, although more production of music recordings would be nice.

People say to stay away from the org...and I have for about 20 years....

But I'm beginning to get the vibe of this place - people are crazy and in some cases, like above, crazy & funny at the same time - I like it!!!

...and there's a lot of love for the Purple one here

more bedsheets, release schedule 1 new set per month.

beyond that, to sell what's already been sold...

end up running an annual Celebration to their friends & family 10 years from now..