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Thread started 10/15/24 8:41am

mclihah2

What is the end-game for the estate?

I dont get what the estate are getting out of this current holding pattern? - Prince's hardcore fans are just getting older and older -

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The next generation / Young people just aren't interested (to my 13 year old buy/girl twins... Prince is just a strange pervert - They've got Gorillaz and K-pop)

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I would be surprised if the music rights ae going up in value.

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What have the estate got to benefit from sitting on this, and faffing around with musicals and boat tours?

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Any ideas?

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I'm asking, for the hope that somebody will have the answers to this crazy quandry - As the alternative is madness

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Reply #1 posted 10/15/24 9:05am

nayroo2002

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PR DE

1999 SDE

SOTT SDE

D&P SDE

Just one more infinity stone, then they will snap their finger and get rid of 50% of the fanbase.

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #2 posted 10/15/24 9:49am

lollipop2

mclihah2 said:

I dont get what the estate are getting out of this current holding pattern? - Prince's hardcore fans are just getting older and older -

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The next generation / Young people just aren't interested (to my 13 year old buy/girl twins... Prince is just a strange pervert - They've got Gorillaz and K-pop)

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I would be surprised if the music rights ae going up in value.

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What have the estate got to benefit from sitting on this, and faffing around with musicals and boat tours?

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Any ideas?

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I'm asking, for the hope that somebody will have the answers to this crazy quandry - As the alternative is madness

...AND NOT HIT RECORD IN THE VAULT...ALL THIS TIME.

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Reply #3 posted 10/15/24 10:41am

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #4 posted 10/15/24 11:29am

bozojones

To milk as much money from nostalgic casual fans as possible while putting forth the least effort possible.

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Reply #5 posted 10/15/24 12:47pm

Gooddoctor23

End game?

They don't give a shit.........

Graycap23 was ME!
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Reply #6 posted 10/15/24 1:03pm

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bozojones said:

To milk as much money from nostalgic casual fans as possible while putting forth the least effort possible.

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #7 posted 10/15/24 2:45pm

SoulAlive

bozojones said:

To milk as much money from nostalgic casual fans as possible while putting forth the least effort possible.




pretty much
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Reply #8 posted 10/15/24 3:27pm

funkbabyandthe
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More merch.
Its where the money is.
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Reply #9 posted 10/15/24 10:54pm

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I think the people in charge of the Estate don't even have the intellect to think about an end game. They have nothing to do with the music industry or anything, they just were blood relations to a musical genius and want to try and fleece the fans for as much cash as possible in the short term

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Reply #10 posted 10/16/24 1:40am

mclihah2

strawberryletter23 said:

I think the people in charge of the Estate don't even have the intellect to think about an end game. They have nothing to do with the music industry or anything, they just were blood relations to a musical genius and want to try and fleece the fans for as much cash as possible in the short term

.. but that's the trick - If they want to flleece the fans then godammn release some products - But maybe that also makes sense - You might want to fleece the fans, but if you don't have anything to do with the music industry then

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A - You wouldn't have a clue as to what a sensible release strategy would be to make money - You just wouldn't have the business instinct or creative vision (both of which are helpful

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B - Even if you *did* have any of the above, you don't have the accumen or connections to initiate the logistics to make it happen

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Man, this thing is depressing - But. I find myself posting a lot as a sort of therapy - I think I'm working my mental exit strategy from my Prince obsession.. onto other matters. I don't know whether others are doing the same (i.e. this being group therapy) or whether it's just me.... but I have firmlucome to the conclusion that this is group therapy for me

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My next problem is... what the hell do I do with all my Symbol stickers and t-shirts? (I have them on my laptops, my bags, my phones, my keys, my wallet - Everywhere - Maybe I'll just hold on to them - Prince has been such a big part of my life since the 80s, and very much after his death also - But it *feels* like it's all finally over - This feels like a second mourning

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Or maybe I just need to get a grip - move on, and then get excited again if there's ever a need

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Reply #11 posted 10/16/24 2:25am

JorisE73

mclihah2 said:

strawberryletter23 said:

I think the people in charge of the Estate don't even have the intellect to think about an end game. They have nothing to do with the music industry or anything, they just were blood relations to a musical genius and want to try and fleece the fans for as much cash as possible in the short term

.. but that's the trick - If they want to flleece the fans then godammn release some products - But maybe that also makes sense - You might want to fleece the fans, but if you don't have anything to do with the music industry then

.

A - You wouldn't have a clue as to what a sensible release strategy would be to make money - You just wouldn't have the business instinct or creative vision (both of which are helpful

.

B - Even if you *did* have any of the above, you don't have the accumen or connections to initiate the logistics to make it happen

.

Man, this thing is depressing - But. I find myself posting a lot as a sort of therapy - I think I'm working my mental exit strategy from my Prince obsession.. onto other matters. I don't know whether others are doing the same (i.e. this being group therapy) or whether it's just me.... but I have firmlucome to the conclusion that this is group therapy for me

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My next problem is... what the hell do I do with all my Symbol stickers and t-shirts? (I have them on my laptops, my bags, my phones, my keys, my wallet - Everywhere - Maybe I'll just hold on to them - Prince has been such a big part of my life since the 80s, and very much after his death also - But it *feels* like it's all finally over - This feels like a second mourning

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Or maybe I just need to get a grip - move on, and then get excited again if there's ever a need


I get your frustartions but maybe just relax and listen to what you already have, it's not the end of the world or anything lol

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Reply #12 posted 10/16/24 3:21am

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Gorillaz are still big? Is it the cartoon gimmick? Because literally those guys came out 23 years ago.

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Reply #13 posted 10/16/24 3:26am

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bozojones said:

To milk as much money from nostalgic casual fans as possible while putting forth the least effort possible.

Londell/Spicer seem like casuals themselves.

Maybe it's like they really can't fathom why fans wouldn't want to live in a world of endless puffy Mozart shirts and 1984 kitsch.

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Reply #14 posted 10/16/24 3:48am

mclihah2

WhisperingDandelions said:

Gorillaz are still big? Is it the cartoon gimmick? Because literally those guys came out 23 years ago.

Yeah, that's the funny thing - Gorillaz were my jam back in the day, and they have translated well to this generation - They're still producing music and I think it's the eclectic nature of their music that plays so well.

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That being said, my son won't go anywhere near Prince, and I think it's probably due to how Prince comes across - I can't put my finger on it - It's like that crazy whiny pervy old man (and that Lovesexy picture on Prince.org just doesn't help razz )

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But he *is* 13, so maybe things will change when he's older... who knows?

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Anyway, my whole purpose for mentioning Gorillaz was that they ARE an old band and the kids love 'em... but not Prince...

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The people that really love Prince, are getting older, and older and older....

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Reply #15 posted 10/16/24 3:49am

JorisE73

WhisperingDandelions said:

bozojones said:

To milk as much money from nostalgic casual fans as possible while putting forth the least effort possible.

Londell/Spicer seem like casuals themselves.

Maybe it's like they really can't fathom why fans wouldn't want to live in a world of endless puffy Mozart shirts and 1984 kitsch.


I;m still baffled about the fact that Prince even gave Londell a producing credit

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Reply #16 posted 10/16/24 3:51am

mclihah2

JorisE73 said:

I get your frustartions but maybe just relax and listen to what you already have, it's not the end of the world or anything lol

Thanks, politely put... and so .. exactly on the money biggrin

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My problem is, I'm an obsessive..... I can get quite intense at times - but you're right..... I will try to take a chill pill.

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Reply #17 posted 10/16/24 3:57am

JorisE73

mclihah2 said:

JorisE73 said:

I get your frustartions but maybe just relax and listen to what you already have, it's not the end of the world or anything lol

Thanks, politely put... and so .. exactly on the money biggrin

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My problem is, I'm an obsessive..... I can get quite intense at times - but you're right..... I will try to take a chill pill.


then some serious advise and seek professional help, because you sound like dramaqueen Questlove when he claimed he needed therapy after watching the doc. Some people are just a bit extra lol
Be obsessive about your own life and watch it soar.

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Reply #18 posted 10/16/24 4:10am

mclihah2

JorisE73 said:

mclihah2 said:

Thanks, politely put... and so .. exactly on the money biggrin

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My problem is, I'm an obsessive..... I can get quite intense at times - but you're right..... I will try to take a chill pill.


then some serious advise and seek professional help, because you sound like dramaqueen Questlove when he claimed he needed therapy after watching the doc. Some people are just a bit extra lol
Be obsessive about your own life and watch it soar.

Thanks again, I love your honesty

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I *am* a drama queen - It was my then-fiance, now wife, who pointed it out to me... oh 30 years ago... what a lightbulb moment.

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I'm also blessed in that I'm lucky enough to be able to put my real-life obsessive energy into my family - Through love, energy and commitment yes. - Used to be work, but post-50 me knows better cool

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This online posting is kinda the hobby part of my brain - I guess it comes across as exaggerated... I suppose because it is... I'm only pointing this out because you seem like a nice enough person so I

wanted to reciprocate with truth..... I guess to let you know that I'm probably more fruitcakey here than real life because it's anonymous

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I do enjoy unspoolng the Prince-obsession side of myself on here however - Hell last thing I want to do in real life is have a rant about the estate with my family - Lol I can't image how that would go down!!!

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Reply #19 posted 10/16/24 4:19am

JorisE73

mclihah2 said:

JorisE73 said:


then some serious advise and seek professional help, because you sound like dramaqueen Questlove when he claimed he needed therapy after watching the doc. Some people are just a bit extra lol
Be obsessive about your own life and watch it soar.

Thanks again, I love your honesty

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I *am* a drama queen - It was my then-fiance, now wife, who pointed it out to me... oh 30 years ago... what a lightbulb moment.

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I'm also blessed in that I'm lucky enough to be able to put my real-life obsessive energy into my family - Through love, energy and commitment yes. - Used to be work, but post-50 me knows better cool

.

This online posting is kinda the hobby part of my brain - I guess it comes across as exaggerated... I suppose because it is... I'm only pointing this out because you seem like a nice enough person so I

wanted to reciprocate with truth..... I guess to let you know that I'm probably more fruitcakey here than real life because it's anonymous

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I do enjoy unspoolng the Prince-obsession side of myself on here however - Hell last thing I want to do in real life is have a rant about the estate with my family - Lol I can't image how that would go down!!!


I get it, I'm also over 50 (51 to be exact) but getting all worked up over Prince was 'fun' when he was alive but now it';s just not something to care about. He's not around anymore to tour so that stressful thing has gone and now it's just waiting on whatever will get released eventually, no biggie. There is more than enough released and unreleased material to listen to even tho you proabbaly already have

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Reply #20 posted 10/16/24 4:33am

mclihah2

JorisE73 said:

I get it, I'm also over 50 (51 to be exact) but getting all worked up over Prince was 'fun' when he was alive but now it';s just not something to care about. He's not around anymore to tour so that stressful thing has gone and now it's just waiting on whatever will get released eventually, no biggie. There is more than enough released and unreleased material to listen to even tho you proabbaly already have

Yes, agreed with you again smile

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I have terabytes of stuff - More than I can handle.. and so much of it AFTER Prince died - But you're right, it was worth getting excited when Prince was the one calling the shots - Now it's just money people haplessly bumping into each other!!!

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Reply #21 posted 10/16/24 1:10pm

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People have lost sight in contemporary times that you're supposed to integrate hyperbole in online interactions.


It's not real life. Despite modern society's disdain for the written word, the written word is primarily how we express ourselves online, so why not make it more energetic/? It's more compelling to read that way.


Lately there's been this movement to "evolve" online interactions into this chill cafe-esque "grounded" discussion like we're in the waiting room at our psychoanalysts office. It's boring and zones out readers.


Either keep it compelling or follow your own advice and go out and fly a kite with the fam.

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Reply #22 posted 10/16/24 2:17pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:

People have lost sight in contemporary times that you're supposed to integrate hyperbole in online interactions.


It's not real life. Despite modern society's disdain for the written word, the written word is primarily how we express ourselves online, so why not make it more energetic/? It's more compelling to read that way.


Lately there's been this movement to "evolve" online interactions into this chill cafe-esque "grounded" discussion like we're in the waiting room at our psychoanalysts office. It's boring and zones out readers.


Either keep it compelling or follow your own advice and go out and fly a kite with the fam.

[Edited 10/16/24 13:10pm]

i know, right?

my response was the funniest one yet razz

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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