It's annoying that D&P was the last Super Deluxe. If they had released Parade, that would collect up a lot of the vault material, extended versions & shows I was waiting for.

ATWIAD would of been great too, but there's less unreleased material I believe in this period, and no official tour.

The 1978-1981 era, and Lovesexy / Black Album period would of been nice to have too.

They messed up with that decision. Wasn't the D&P super deluxe a poor seller?

would have been, yeah.

SquirrelMeat76 said:

RODSERLING said:

D&P was a poor seller, but the former estate did that éditorial choice of highlighting something else than the 80's and the more recent material, which was a wish expressed by many fans. Moreover, from 1991 onwards, the material recorded was digitised, so it makes things easier for restoration, etc. Parade, I Guess you would have to go through thousand of dusty tapes to build an SDE. You Can bet the actual estate don't give a fuck about going through thé process of doing a New SDE. They already have the Symbol one in the can.

I'm sick of Prince fans acting like this was the Estate "giving the fans what they want" by finally venturing into 90s Prince.

uh, no, even the most ardent 90s Prince fans always felt D&P was a mediocre project. D&P's literal historical legacy prior to SDE was as The Tony M. Experience. Jughead: The Album.

D&P had a small pocket of defenders, sure, but literally nobody was sitting around pining for it as the next Prince SDE.

Really, I find this attempt at rectonning history by you and other D&P SDE apologists absolutely offensive.

This blunder warped the fanbase is what it did, you go on reddit these n00blars act like it's on the same level as 1999, PR, or SOTT, by sheer virtue of being "chosen" as SDE. Why it had pop hits 3 decades ago it did!

WhisperingDandelions said:

RODSERLING said:

SquirrelMeat76 said:

It's annoying that D&P was the last Super Deluxe. If they had released Parade, that would collect up a lot of the vault material, extended versions & shows I was waiting for.

ATWIAD would of been great too, but there's less unreleased material I believe in this period, and no official tour.

The 1978-1981 era, and Lovesexy / Black Album period would of been nice to have too.

They messed up with that decision. Wasn't the D&P super deluxe a poor seller?

D&P was a poor seller, but the former estate did that éditorial choice of highlighting something else than the 80's and the more recent material, which was a wish expressed by many fans. Moreover, from 1991 onwards, the material recorded was digitised, so it makes things easier for restoration, etc. Parade, I Guess you would have to go through thousand of dusty tapes to build an SDE. You Can bet the actual estate don't give a fuck about going through thé process of doing a New SDE. They already have the Symbol one in the can.

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The former estate indeed planned the Diamonds and Love SDE.
The Parade SDE was also already in the works (probably also finished) by the former estate.

I remember Duane talking about it.

Obviously in my pinion, it must've overlapped with work on the SOTT SDE.

(Plus, possibly, all those found recordings done for ongoing protégées albums. My guess is that they at least are all sorted out.)

Early and eighties stuff was worked on the most, as it was necessary and urgent, due to bad preservation by Prince himself, we all know that.

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I'm waiting for the day that Duane T. is going to do an interview... to find out what really happened.

He is so quiet on the internet, it hurts my ears.

Vannormal said:

I'm waiting for the day that Duane T. is going to do an interview... to find out what really happened.

He is so quiet on the internet, it hurts my ears.

Easy to figure out some non disclosure agreement will prevent him from spilling the beans.

Even without a NDA it could be so unprofessional to speak out.

Vannormal said:

psyche2 said:

Try to get in here and make your own SDE.

In these limestone mega-caves, Iron Mountain in Pittsburg is where all Prince's tapes and stuff is saved.

Shame there is no Prince tape to be seen in this massive storrage, and super cool 1h40min video.

But interesting to see and know where all is at this very moment (I hope).

I always tried to imagine where Prince's stuff was, and now I know it.

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They can lock me in here for one year without sunlight. Just give me some headphones, explain to me how the machines work, and a daily pizza for one year, and then I can peacefully die.

Vannormal said:

Try to get in here and make your own SDE.

In these limestone mega-caves, Iron Mountain in Pittsburg is where all Prince's tapes and stuff is saved.

Shame there is no Prince tape to be seen in this massive storrage, and super cool 1h40min video.

But interesting to see and know where all is at this very moment (I hope).

I always tried to imagine where Prince's stuff was, and now I know it.

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They can lock me in here for one year without sunlight. Just give me some headphones, explain to me how the machines work, and a daily pizza for one year, and then I can peacefully die.

Didn't they transfer everytnig back to Paisley Park?

JorisE73 said:

Vannormal said:

Try to get in here and make your own SDE.

In these limestone mega-caves, Iron Mountain in Pittsburg is where all Prince's tapes and stuff is saved.

Shame there is no Prince tape to be seen in this massive storrage, and super cool 1h40min video.

But interesting to see and know where all is at this very moment (I hope).

I always tried to imagine where Prince's stuff was, and now I know it.

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They can lock me in here for one year without sunlight. Just give me some headphones, explain to me how the machines work, and a daily pizza for one year, and then I can peacefully die.

Didn't they transfer everytnig back to Paisley Park?

If that's the case, then they must've renovated the vaults, which were to my knowledge too small even for everything? All stuff was spread out over several spaces in PP :

They found the vault in an absolute terrible state after his passing.

And a renovation of sorts is very expensive; climate control & humidity balance systems etc.

You think they did all that? And moved it back from Iron Mountain?

I hope not.

I also hope not, but i think Sharon said when they took over that they wanted to move everything back to Paisley Park because it belonged there according to her (mostl likely because of it being much cheaper to house it at Paisley Park than at Iron Mountain)

Yes, I remember Sharon saying that. I also remember many people saying it wouldn't make any sense (and I fully agree - tapes, etc. need to be archived in a professional manner and I don't see how it's possible at Paisley Park). Plus we never got any confirmation that the tapes were moved back.

There are many places where it would be cheaper to keep Prince's vault. My basement, for example. Iron Mountain is not cheap for a reason.

[Edited 11/14/24 5:45am]

olb99 said:

Yes, I remember Sharon saying that. I also remember many people saying it wouldn't make any sense (and I fully agree - tapes, etc. need to be archived in a professional manner and I don't see how it's possible at Paisley Park). Plus we never got any confirmation that the tapes were moved back.

There are many places where it would be cheaper to keep Prince's vault. My basement, for example. Iron Mountain is not cheap for a reason.

[Edited 11/14/24 5:45am]

Iron Maountain exists for a reason and Prince's recordings and whatever are important enough to keep it in a place like that instead of further decaying at Paisley Park.

[Edited 11/14/24 5:59am]

RODSERLING said:

I believe the tapes are in sure place. thanks to Michael Howe and al.That's not where the problem is. [Edited 11/14/24 17:59pm]

With the big tensions between the 2 representatives of the Estate and their different views & strategies of releases ...the things in the future will be harder & much more even since the death of TYKA NELSON....i thought that the main problem was Londell&Spicer but i think i was wrong ...PW might be the black cat in the garden !

[Edited 11/15/24 4:25am]

love2thenines2003 said:

Primary Wave

RODSERLING said:

love2thenines2003 said:

With the big tensions between the 2 representatives of the Estate and their different views & strategies of releases ...the things in the future will be harder & much more even since the death of TYKA NELSON....i thought that the main problem was Londell&Spicer but i think i was wrong ...PW might be the black cat in the garden !

[Edited 11/15/24 4:25am]

Who/ what the hell is "PW"?

Primary wave.

Paul Westerberg

Purple Withholders? Profit Worshippers? Party Wreckers? Prince's Worst-nightmare?

(Thanks, Claude.)

funkylust said:

4. Batman Super Deluxe

This one is a no brainer and I'm surprised that they haven't done it yet,considering that they seem to be focused only on the 'big selling' albums.

SoulAlive said:

RODSERLING said:

Bumhole said:

RODSERLING said:

Bumhole said:

Dude - I think TM is unfairly maligned by the broader community often - he doesn’t deserve it and he did precisely what Prince wanted at the time. But better than most of the rappers at the time? Nowhere close. And I enjoy D&P (and particularly the Blu-ray of the show and the separate Atmos release were fascinating) but it was an extremely amateurish and lazy choice of the next choice. Let’s look at sales figures back then and project that reflects what people will be interested in now…

I dont understand : what was amateurish and lazy? There s Eminem, and then there is Tony Mosley. Nobody Can rap funky style like on Willing and Able. That was never done before, never After Hé couldn' t do This live though- Eminem concerts are terrible too, worst concert I ever went. [Edited 11/15/24 12:34pm]

Eminem is a far better rapper than Tony M and it's not even close, regardless of how you feel about his live shows

olb99 said:

Purple Withholders? Profit Worshippers? Party Wreckers? Prince's Worst-nightmare?

(Thanks, Claude.)

Prince William