WhisperingDandelions said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

mclihah2 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

In his defense he did try to shelve that release Black Album style but Daily Mirror refused.

He was successful in ensuring it didn't get released globally anyway.

Shame. I liked the album. Some superb tracks on there. In fact it probably seemed weaker than it was because it was free.

I did, too. Shame that we were supposed to get this album after that without truncated songs that would be sold in stores, but we didn't. It's also a shame that here old fans come to complain about the fucked up handling of Prince's estate instead of celebrating his great music. Long live the boot legs! Glad I bought a bunch from Europe on CD while you still could and the dripping downloads that used to show up once in a while. You want to celebrate Prince? Listen to your downloads or boots!

Prince was notorious for trying to get reactions out of people. I think there is a very good chance he was here and posted often, simply for this own amusement.

Did we ever get to the bottom of whether Prince was 'TheNewWatcher' and 'TheNewWatcher2'?

He wasn't Mr7 as some people believed.

He also wasn't NPG2000 on here, but he did use an NPG2000 email address in the early 2000's. A few of us had emails from him.

SquirrelMeat said:

Did we ever get to the bottom of whether Prince was 'TheNewWatcher'

This is the account I exchanged quite a few OrgNotes with and for a little while I did think so.

I wouldn't say, with hindsight, that any of the answers he gave me proved that he was Prince, I was always trying to word my questions in an open way to see if he would give me anything at all, but I was always a little disappointed with the cryptic responses. I remember trying to tease information about when he was next visiting the UK for a tour etc (this was probably around 2002-4 I think, I would imagine first messages were before the UK ONA tour) but you could argue the responses were vague enough to cover either possibility, yes or no

When TheNewWatcher first appeared there were definitely a couple of things that I felt only Prince or someone at Paisley Park would have been able to do, I seem to recall his avatar was initally the NPG Music Club logo and typeface for 2002-3 which hadn't launched at that point, or was it a Xenophobia logo and typeface before that had been downloadable as an album or before the Celebration theme was announced? I asked where he got that from he said " a friend" , he showed great interest in the launch of itunes on a thread, and then the NPGMC music store also appeared very soon after, so we were all putting 1+1+1 together to =3 plus didn't he seem to know about the Musicology song contest entrants with those sample snippets? and I think the Musicology era photo of him and Manuella in the car with the CD case appeared on his avatar before being made public (I can't 100% say that was the case of course).

Who knows?

[Edited 10/17/24 8:57am]

RODSERLING said:

Are there surviving posts of that NewWatcher, 1 or 2? https://prince.org/msg/7/...?&pg=1 [Edited 10/17/24 10:36am]

Wow, that is so cool - Exactly what I was looking for from this thread - A peak of Prince from the past

That was so obviously Prince, and it's lovely to see some of the posts that he made - As ever being cryptic, enigmatic and having fun with the Fans.

The one I love the most is where he responds about monitoring - So on the nose


Link: assuming Prince's people monitor this site...

" I can assure you that neither Prince nor his people monitor this site.

"monitor' is such a harsh word. "

Nice! That was def P with all the cryptic messages!

thread: Wishes for next studio album

TheNewWatcher2:

Well there's 1 thing 4 certain.

Some of u will b diss appointed.

Trufunksoulja said:

Nice! That was def P with all the cryptic messages!

thread: Wishes for next studio album

TheNewWatcher2:

Well there's 1 thing 4 certain.

Some of u will b diss appointed.

You can't say that was definitely Prince--you don't know that.

purplethunder3121 said:

Trufunksoulja said:

Nice! That was def P with all the cryptic messages!

thread: Wishes for next studio album

TheNewWatcher2:

Well there's 1 thing 4 certain.

Some of u will b diss appointed.

You can't say that was definitely Prince--you don't know that.

Ofcourse I don't know for sure, that is obvious

[Edited 10/18/24 6:06am]

mclihah2 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

[Edited 10/13/24 12:15pm]

RODSERLING said:

mclihah2 said:

Actually, in this topic, Prince was rumoured to be DWZ. After such mockery towards Thé New Watcher 2, DWZ erased all of his posts, leaving only that enigmatic message : eye will c u on the other side That is so fucking cool.

I'm pretty sure Prince was The New Watcher. At the same time the account appeared, he began messaging people individually as well as revealing details that were (at the time) not public.

At the same time the account was live, I had email correspondance with Prince (NPG2000 from PP) with details that only he knew, and we ratified when I spoke to him a few years later.

[Edited 10/18/24 19:15pm]

SquirrelMeat said:

RODSERLING said:

SquirrelMeat said:

I'm pretty sure Prince was The New Watcher. At the same time the account appeared, he began messaging people individually as well as revealing details that were (at the time) not public.

At the same time the account was live, I had email correspondance with Prince (NPG2000 from PP) with details that only he knew, and we ratified when I spoke to him a few years later.

[Edited 10/18/24 19:15pm]

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SquirrelMeat said:

RODSERLING said:

mclihah2 said: Actually, in this topic, Prince was rumoured to be DWZ. After such mockery towards Thé New Watcher 2, DWZ erased all of his posts, leaving only that enigmatic message : eye will c u on the other side That is so fucking cool.

I'm pretty sure Prince was The New Watcher. At the same time the account appeared, he began messaging people individually as well as revealing details that were (at the time) not public.

At the same time the account was live, I had email correspondance with Prince (NPG2000 from PP) with details that only he knew, and we ratified when I spoke to him a few years later.

[Edited 10/18/24 19:15pm]

Just looking at his profile and some of his messages the idea seems plausible

WhisperingDandelions said:

purplethunder3121 said:

[Edited 10/13/24 12:15pm]

In his defense he did try to shelve that release Black Album style but Daily Mirror refused.

He was successful in ensuring it didn't get released globally anyway.

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PAISLEYPARK11

JorisE73 said:

RODSERLING said:

JorisE73 said:

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Please stay on topic

Trufunksoulja said:

Nice! That was def P with all the cryptic messages!

thread: Wishes for next studio album

TheNewWatcher2:

Well there's 1 thing 4 certain.

Some of u will b diss appointed.

Sounds like Prince, tbh.

https://prince.org/msg/7/...sg_7426264

Vannormal said:

https://prince.org/msg/7/...sg_7426264

Have we found a song called "Iron & Clay" from 2011 in the vault?

I recall around the Hit N Run tour in 2000-2001 there was some posts by BlackEyedPeas giving info on Geneva and the tour.

A lot of people thought it was P or someone from the crew

olb99 said:

Vannormal said:

https://prince.org/msg/7/...sg_7426264

Have we found a song called "Iron & Clay" from 2011 in the vault?

Wut?

He posted this in that thread:

Get ready 2 Love me again.

Trufunksoulja said:

olb99 said:

Have we found a song called "Iron & Clay" from 2011 in the vault?

Wut?

https://prince.org/msg/7/...?&pg=1

[Edited 11/7/24 5:59am]

"Eye still c u paying so umm.....who really is the fool?"