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Thread started 10/02/24 12:24pm

bobgeorge77

Black Friday Record Store Day and….. Nothing by Prince

So I was excited to see that Black Friday Record Store Day was announced… but again… no Prince. sad Another wasted opportunity by the estate. So sad.
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Reply #1 posted 10/02/24 12:49pm

FrankieCoco1

bobgeorge77 said:

So I was excited to see that Black Friday Record Store Day was announced… but again… no Prince. sad Another wasted opportunity by the estate. So sad.


The current management have failed, and I’d lump Primary Wave in with Londell and Spicer in that. Prince for me was all about the music - I don’t give a shit about Air bnb, a cruise, barely interested in a jukebox musical or stage show of purple rain. Even the Netflix lifestyle doc is a bit lame. Prince Vault has lost its interest now it doesn’t show what’s updated each day. The org isn’t what it was due to zero new official or leaked music. What’s the fecking point, eh!
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #2 posted 10/02/24 1:12pm

mattosgood

bobgeorge77 said:

So I was excited to see that Black Friday Record Store Day was announced… but again… no Prince. sad Another wasted opportunity by the estate. So sad.

never fear, I'm sure they'll have some new bedsheets coming out for us before then...

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Reply #3 posted 10/02/24 2:50pm

djThunderfunk

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Of all the stupid choices "they" are making, not having something really cool by Prince on EVERY RSD is absolutely up there at the top. It's absolutely one of the best opportunites to hook people that already spend money on music to spend some on Prince.

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Reply #4 posted 10/02/24 2:52pm

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Could have been very cool.

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Stream Camille - Prince (Full Album Reconstruction) by Vomit | Listen  online for free on SoundCloud

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #5 posted 10/02/24 3:04pm

bozojones

nayroo2002 said:

Could have been very cool.

4 Xample:

Stream Camille - Prince (Full Album Reconstruction) by Vomit | Listen  online for free on SoundCloud


Jack White tried to get this out to us... leave it to Londell and Charles to fuck up what could have been an easy slam dunk.

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Reply #6 posted 10/02/24 3:50pm

SoulAlive

yet another missed opportunity by the estate rolleyes
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Reply #7 posted 10/02/24 10:03pm

Vannormal

Somehow i would even agree/beg for a Frankensteined version of anything unheard yet,

just to have ...'something' ...

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What I don't understand is that they aparently can't release unreleased music?

How come they could release that "Silver Tongue" version last summer?

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Enough oportunities in a celebrative mode, PR, Batman, Batdance, Musicology, LotusFlower...

We'll sure won't get anything for Xmas as well.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #8 posted 10/02/24 11:54pm

Trufunksoulja

Vannormal said:

Somehow i would even agree/beg for a Frankensteined version of anything unheard yet,

just to have ...'something' ...

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What I don't understand is that they aparently can't release unreleased music?

How come they could release that "Silver Tongue" version last summer?

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Enough oportunities in a celebrative mode, PR, Batman, Batdance, Musicology, LotusFlower...

We'll sure won't get anything for Xmas as well.

I know right.

We only know for sure that the Estate is balls deep in the PR musical.

So I guess in 2025 we will have that , the music from PR sung by the cast and overprized Cellie.

well, I am going back to my bootlegs lol

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Reply #9 posted 10/03/24 12:48am

MIRvmn1

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Vannormal said:

Somehow i would even agree/beg for a Frankensteined version of anything unheard yet,


just to have ...'something' ...


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What I don't understand is that they aparently can't release unreleased music?


How come they could release that "Silver Tongue" version last summer?


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Enough oportunities in a celebrative mode, PR, Batman, Batdance, Musicology, LotusFlower...


We'll sure won't get anything for Xmas as well.



That's cuz Londell is a liar and full of shit. As I've said before, they have no interest in releasing unreleased music anymore. I think we'll get something at some point, but it probably will take a few years between releases from now on.
[Edited 10/3/24 0:49am]
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Reply #10 posted 10/03/24 2:22am

happyshopper

I think the estate (Londell) is having trouble agreeing anything with anyone.

There's always another deal to be done, another negotiation on price, and nothing ever gets agreed.

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Reply #11 posted 10/03/24 4:11am

Vannormal

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I think the estate (Londell) is having trouble agreeing anything with anyone.

There's always another deal to be done, another negotiation on price, and nothing ever gets agreed.

In one of his tweets he said that he thinks releasing live material is essatial for him with a SDE package.

And this is apartenly keeping things up for now.

So no 83' PR pre-show...

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #12 posted 10/03/24 4:26am

fredmagnus

happyshopper said:

I think the estate (Londell) is having trouble agreeing anything with anyone.

There's always another deal to be done, another negotiation on price, and nothing ever gets agreed.

This guy truly is our worst nightmare.

Just after Sharon who put him in charge.

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Reply #13 posted 10/03/24 6:05am

ghostof82

I'm rather surprised, regardless of what the Estate wants to do, that Warners didn't mark the 35th anniversary of Batman with an SDE (or is dealing with the Estate for vault material from those sessions putting a block on that?).I suppose we now have to wait till 2029 for the 40th.
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Reply #14 posted 10/03/24 7:20am

happyshopper

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I'm rather surprised, regardless of what the Estate wants to do, that Warners didn't mark the 35th anniversary of Batman with an SDE (or is dealing with the Estate for vault material from those sessions putting a block on that?).I suppose we now have to wait till 2029 for the 40th.

Warner can't release anything without the Estate agreeing and supplying the content.

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Reply #15 posted 10/03/24 8:15am

ghostof82

happyshopper said:



ghostof82 said:


I'm rather surprised, regardless of what the Estate wants to do, that Warners didn't mark the 35th anniversary of Batman with an SDE (or is dealing with the Estate for vault material from those sessions putting a block on that?).I suppose we now have to wait till 2029 for the 40th.


Warner can't release anything without the Estate agreeing and supplying the content.




I thought Warner owned the soundtracks and can do what they want? Is that not the case? Yikes, well never see anything released if its always subject to the Estate.
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Reply #16 posted 10/03/24 8:40am

happyshopper

ghostof82 said:

happyshopper said:

Warner can't release anything without the Estate agreeing and supplying the content.

I thought Warner owned the soundtracks and can do what they want? Is that not the case? Yikes, well never see anything released if its always subject to the Estate.

They can probably re-release the original album, but not extra stuff.

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Reply #17 posted 10/03/24 4:36pm

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nayroo2002 said:

Could have been very cool.

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Stream Camille - Prince (Full Album Reconstruction) by Vomit | Listen  online for free on SoundCloud

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Reply #18 posted 10/03/24 9:43pm

Vannormal

happyshopper said:

ghostof82 said:

happyshopper said: I thought Warner owned the soundtracks and can do what they want? Is that not the case? Yikes, well never see anything released if its always subject to the Estate.

They can probably re-release the original album, but not extra stuff.

Maybe they wait for another Batman movie, to boost that old release... ?

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #19 posted 10/04/24 1:45am

JorisE73

happyshopper said:

ghostof82 said:

happyshopper said: I thought Warner owned the soundtracks and can do what they want? Is that not the case? Yikes, well never see anything released if its always subject to the Estate.

They can probably re-release the original album, but not extra stuff.


And they can't remaster it without the Estate's permission it seems without renegociating a deal with them for the ownership of the new master.
(I guess something Prince didn't know back in the day or else we could had remasters back in the 90s and he maybe could have his masters back then?)

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Reply #20 posted 10/04/24 12:48pm

SoulAlive

RSD would be a fun,easy way to get more Prince music released to the fans but as usual,the estate is clueless.They seem to have no direction or fresh ideas.

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Reply #21 posted 10/04/24 3:10pm

FrankieCoco1

https://www.cede.ch/de/mu...d=18910753

Not sure if this is reliable or not, but cede.ch have a pre-order up for a Hot Thing - 2024 Reissue, 12" Maxi, release date appears to be on 8th November 2024. Given there wasn’t a standalone Hot Thing 12” back in the day - it was the flip side to I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man - I’m dubious on how authentic this is. There was a 12” promo of it though with the edit as the A side and the extended version as the B-side, so may be that is being re-issued.
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #22 posted 10/04/24 5:30pm

MadeUpName

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They could have reprinted the "Purple Rain" maxi-single on purple splatter or a picture disc. LOL

"purplelectricity whenever our bodies touch"
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Reply #23 posted 10/04/24 5:49pm

djThunderfunk

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Since the Purple Rain Deluxe did not have a vinyl release, they could release Prince And The Revolution - Purple Rain: From The Vault 2LP. It wouldn't have violated the deal with Netflix and it would give us an opportunity to get something while no-longer "previously unreleased", at least it would be 1st time on vinyl.

Or how about another limited edition Black Album physical release for the 30th anniversary of it's original physical release.

It's so easy that if these idiots can't figure it out they're not doing it right.

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Reply #24 posted 10/04/24 9:41pm

bozojones

FrankieCoco1 said:

https://www.cede.ch/de/mu...d=18910753 Not sure if this is reliable or not, but cede.ch have a pre-order up for a Hot Thing - 2024 Reissue, 12" Maxi, release date appears to be on 8th November 2024. Given there wasn’t a standalone Hot Thing 12” back in the day - it was the flip side to I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man - I’m dubious on how authentic this is. There was a 12” promo of it though with the edit as the A side and the extended version as the B-side, so may be that is being re-issued.


I hope it's real just so I can laugh at the estate signing off on a random SOTT single reissue a whole four years after that album got its own SDE instead of doing something Purple Rain related lol

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Reply #25 posted 10/05/24 1:48pm

laytonian

fredmagnus said:

happyshopper said:

I think the estate (Londell) is having trouble agreeing anything with anyone.

There's always another deal to be done, another negotiation on price, and nothing ever gets agreed.

This guy truly is our worst nightmare.

Just after Sharon who put him in charge.


You can suss out Sharon's decisions in all of these bad things. Too much "holy prayer" and "Praise the Lord, the taxes have been paid" -- like that is something momentous. It just meant she and her buddies L&C got to run things by shoving everyone else aside.

Tell us again how much Prince's catalog sold for. Pennies in their rush to close it up and take charge.

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #26 posted 10/06/24 4:17pm

Gooddoctor23

The Estate is a shit show.

Graycap23 was ME!
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Reply #27 posted 10/06/24 11:31pm

Vannormal

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The Estate is a shit show.

It looks more and more like The Estate is the harvest of everything Prince ever sowed.

Prince's own independently built, over-controlled kingdom, which clearly showed after the first quarter of its career that it was already going down.

But, it took us more than 40 years to realise that, with all this as a final result.

Hundelasiliah!

It is what it is.

None of us, with full wallets to spend, can change anything.

"Princompetence."

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #28 posted 10/07/24 1:08am

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As simple as that ....with the new management....it is very easy to understand for real ...Prince and what he left behind for the future generations (His material from the vault) is lost .....as simple as that .....as long as u know who....will be at the head quater of the management of the Estate...i can't see something good to emerge from all this shit !!

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Reply #29 posted 10/07/24 6:16am

djThunderfunk

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Am I the only one here who gets excited about "1st time on vinyl" releases? I have to believe that can't be the case. Surely there are enough vinyl enthusiasts among the Prince fandom to make such releases profitable until the netflix fiasco is resolved and unreleased material can come out.

I would even like to see the SDE's split up as individual vinyl releases as the huge box sets are priced out of range for those of us on a budget. I want to see a From The Vault series of LPs, each vault cd as an individual volume 2LP. I would buy every one.

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