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The Estate is doing more harm than good........ No one is doing more harm 2 Prince's lagacy than this Estate. From the tired yearly celebration 2 coffee mugs to something next 2 nothing in releases Prince's catalog is fading 2 Black. Graycap23 was ME! | |
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Yep, they're just fucking themselves over in their weird crusade against the Netflix documentary. The cat is already out of the bag regarding Jill Jones' accusations, and the NYT article came and went quickly. There wasn't any major backlash, no "cancel" campaign against Prince as a result, no damage to the Prince brand. If the release of an easily accessible & shareable online article wasn't enough to cause that, then the full documentary ain't gonna make a splash either. | |
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I think that they are perfectly happy with the initial closed probate. They are literally doing the bare minimum. I knew it was goig 2 come 2 this. A very sad state of affairs. Graycap23 was ME! | |
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The frase 'BIG YEAR!' will resonate for a long time. Nothing came out of it; the Netflix shit, the suppose SDE for PR, etc. Not even a proper 20y celbration of Musicology, that easily could've been a RSD release with a few extras. No one-off release like a never before heard song. No never before seen video. Not even by a protege or whatever... A total mess of the last Celebration. Reviews were pretty scathing, and honest. The only small good thing might be that they are asking/begging us (for the first time) to give some fresh ideas for next year's Celebration. Only I don't see and feel much enthusiasm here for this at all. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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I am starting to not give a shit anymore and according to the amount of visitors to the Org lately I am not the only one. | |
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its crap, but ill just wait until something happens now. whenever that will be.... luckily prince left a lot of music, and there are still corners of his music that i have not fully explored yet. i guess i am more thankful for the people running the previous estate now! | |
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Exactly...and by trying to cancel the release of this documentary,they're actually making it look as if they're trying to hide something.The way they're handling this situation is ridiculous and just plain dumb.
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This estate seems to be in a stalemate... And I do mean stale. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0 | |
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Yes. Not releasing a documentary, and they way Londell is throwing little tantrums about it is def a mistake. I often think back to Rykodisc's re-release of David Bowie's catalog in the 80s. Rykodisc released Bowie's catalog sequentially with new release every 6 to 8 months or so. That was really effective for getting my generation to dive into his work, which was a little before our time. No broadway plays. No censoring of songs. | |
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There's a recurring argument here in the forum that the fans who didn't buy the Diamonds & Pearls SDE are more or less to blame for the fact that we didn't get the next SDE straight away. Maybe. But for me, the fans who buy the overpriced, low-quality merchandise crap and go to the equally overpriced celebrations (in order to belong to the select circle and hear 10 recordings that they've never heard before) are at least partly responsible. I would like to see more boycotts in this regard. NPG Radio:
https://open.spotify.com/...63VlWY6m1A | |
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That is the most perfect explaination I have seen anywhere!
Madhouse Edit [Edited 10/5/24 15:34pm] "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" | |
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Prince's Estate should be one of the easiest to run from a creative perspective - he left so much material, and he has a loyal diehard fanbase that would basically pay for anything. They could pick something at random and the fans would buy it. They're a joke. | |
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The only thing the Estate will understand is a boycott of all the bs merchandise and a no-show at the next celebration.
Scare them into hiring someone who really knows how to do things. At the minute they are doing nothing but harm to Prince's reputation and legacy. I cannot believe that the genius that was Prince is being trampled into the gutter so brutally by the very people who should be preserving it. I doubt that the first thing the people behind Kris Kristofferson's eventual Estate will be thinking of will be Kristofferson Handkerchiefs. [Edited 10/7/24 1:40am] | |
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ghostof82 said: The only thing the Estate will understand is a boycott of all the bs merchandise and a no-show at the next celebration. Scare them into hiring someone who really knows how to do things. At the minute they are doing nothing but harm to Prince's reputation and legacy. I cannot believe that the genius that was Prince is being trampled into the gutter so brutally by the very people who should be preserving it. I doubt that the first thing the people behind Kris Kristofferson's eventual Estate will be Kristofferson Handkerchiefs. The good thing is that the celebrations seem to get worse every year and hopefully it will make less people attending. U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn Free the SDE now! | |
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Yep. They need people who know and love the music involved, not the same folks wanting to make a carreer milking him. | |
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"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 | |
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Thank God for good boots. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0 | |
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At this point I'd settle for a 78-88 box set of that run. Remastered by Grundman. Maybe just a single disc of outtakes for each album. Why is that not possible? Save the superdeluxes for albums that warrant them.
Needs a certain estate to give a shit though. | |
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Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. | |
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Amen & amen...... | |
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My hope is that a major will buy the entire catalogue, outtakes and live performances included. Whoever is managing the current catalogue does not have the skills, the business knowledge, nor the capital to manage the releases. In the meantime, Prince's old fans and general listeners are dwindling in number. Music tastes are changing, and artificial intelligence is sweeping the music industry and changing the way music is created and enjoyed. I am excited about it, and I am part of it. It has already been over eight years since Prince's death. I regret not having listened to the music in Prince's vault in the meantime, but to be honest there is already a new generational power now. Prince was my idol, but as a music lover I cannot wait for the Estate. | |
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AI = "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0 | |
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For sure it wil be misused, and a lot of BS will be created by it. As it goes right now. So far it's also used to pursue and try to realise human fantasies (among other things of course). By the way, AI is everywhere, right now, even you're using its benefits without knowing it. The general taste of people isn't always the best when it comes to use (new internet) tools for being creative. Just saying... Give it some time. It's young and kicking around. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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Confirmed!
As suspected since weeks...Duane Tudahl is not working anymore for the Estate (fired?) [img]https://i.ibb.co/x6s....jpg[/img] [Edited 10/13/24 0:59am] | |
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Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. | |
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U can't be serious. Graycap23 was ME! | |
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Gooddoctor23 said:
U can't be serious. Seriously. I’ve been using AI to transform some noisy audience recordings of concerts to get rid of the incessant cheering and screaming. It gives you some awesome clean live recordings. No harm, no foul. | |
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