No one is doing more harm 2 Prince's lagacy than this Estate.

From the tired yearly celebration 2 coffee mugs to something next 2 nothing in releases

Prince's catalog is fading 2 Black.

Yep, they're just fucking themselves over in their weird crusade against the Netflix documentary. The cat is already out of the bag regarding Jill Jones' accusations, and the NYT article came and went quickly. There wasn't any major backlash, no "cancel" campaign against Prince as a result, no damage to the Prince brand. If the release of an easily accessible & shareable online article wasn't enough to cause that, then the full documentary ain't gonna make a splash either.

Londell and Charles need to pull their heads out of their asses and do some actual work. Or better yet, step aside and let somebody competent do the job that they're too damn lazy to do.

bozojones said:

Yep, they're just fucking themselves over in their weird crusade against the Netflix documentary. The cat is already out of the bag regarding Jill Jones' accusations, and the NYT article came and went quickly. There wasn't any major backlash, no "cancel" campaign against Prince as a result, no damage to the Prince brand. If the release of an easily accessible & shareable online article wasn't enough to cause that, then the full documentary ain't gonna make a splash either.

Londell and Charles need to pull their heads out of their asses and do some actual work. Or better yet, step aside and let somebody competent do the job that they're too damn lazy to do.

I think that they are perfectly happy with the initial closed probate.

They are literally doing the bare minimum.

I knew it was goig 2 come 2 this.

A very sad state of affairs.

The frase 'BIG YEAR!' will resonate for a long time.

Nothing came out of it; the Netflix shit, the suppose SDE for PR, etc.

Not even a proper 20y celbration of Musicology, that easily could've been a RSD release with a few extras.

No one-off release like a never before heard song.

No never before seen video. Not even by a protege or whatever...

A total mess of the last Celebration. Reviews were pretty scathing, and honest.

The only small good thing might be that they are asking/begging us (for the first time) to give some fresh ideas for next year's Celebration.

Only I don't see and feel much enthusiasm here for this at all.

I am starting to not give a shit anymore and according to the amount of visitors to the Org lately I am not the only one.

its crap, but ill just wait until something happens now.

whenever that will be....

luckily prince left a lot of music, and there are still corners of his music that i have not fully explored yet.

i guess i am more thankful for the people running the previous estate now!

Exactly...and by trying to cancel the release of this documentary,they're actually making it look as if they're trying to hide something.The way they're handling this situation is ridiculous and just plain dumb.

bozojones said:

Yep, they're just fucking themselves over in their weird crusade against the Netflix documentary. The cat is already out of the bag regarding Jill Jones' accusations, and the NYT article came and went quickly. There wasn't any major backlash, no "cancel" campaign against Prince as a result, no damage to the Prince brand. If the release of an easily accessible & shareable online article wasn't enough to cause that, then the full documentary ain't gonna make a splash either.

This estate seems to be in a stalemate... And I do mean stale.

Yes. Not releasing a documentary, and they way Londell is throwing little tantrums about it is def a mistake.

I often think back to Rykodisc's re-release of David Bowie's catalog in the 80s. Rykodisc released Bowie's catalog sequentially with new release every 6 to 8 months or so. That was really effective for getting my generation to dive into his work, which was a little before our time.

Prince's catalog really tells a story if you start from the beginning, and I think people should understnd that story. It seems like a real missed opportunity by the estate to not tell it. Instead we have these scattered releases, with no real plan or vision. I think I got he sense that they were releasing special editions in the order of which sold the most to least.

I want all the albums released on all major formats with the b-sides and 12 inch versions, including all the protege bands. The Time, Vanity 6, Shelia E., Apollonia 6, the Family. At minimum!

No broadway plays. No censoring of songs.

FancyLesbian said:

Prince's catalog really tells a story if you start from the beginning, and I think people should understnd that story. It seems like a real missed opportunity by the estate to not tell it. Instead we have these scattered releases, with no real plan or vision. I think I got he sense that they were releasing special editions in the order of which sold the most to least.

I want all the albums released on all major formats with the b-sides and 12 inch versions, including all the protege bands. The Time, Vanity 6, Shelia E., Apollonia 6, the Family. At minimum!

No broadway plays. No censoring of songs.

That is the most perfect explaination I have seen anywhere!

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BlueShakooo said:

There's a recurring argument here in the forum that the fans who didn't buy the Diamonds & Pearls SDE are more or less to blame for the fact that we didn't get the next SDE straight away. Maybe. But for me, the fans who buy the overpriced, low-quality merchandise crap and go to the equally overpriced celebrations (in order to belong to the select circle and hear 10 recordings that they've never heard before) are at least partly responsible. I would like to see more boycotts in this regard.

It's such a dumb argument, and Rod never acknowledges the number of factors that might explain why a lot of fans didn't jump at the chance to buy a Diamonds & Pearls SDE - the biggest being a lack of interest in the era/album itself, second being the high price.

If the estate of an artist as prolific as Prince gives up on music releases altogether because of one SDE underperforming, that says much more about them than it does about the fans.

ghostof82 said:

Yep. They need people who know and love the music involved, not the same folks wanting to make a carreer milking him.

BlueShakooo said:

...But for me, the fans who buy the overpriced, low-quality merchandise crap and go to the equally overpriced celebrations (in order to belong to the select circle and hear 10 recordings that they've never heard before) are at least partly responsible. I would like to see more boycotts in this regard.

I'm in!

I went to the 2017 Cele but that was well done. I haven't bought any merch since Prince passed away.

Alas, it does appear the current estate management is focused on turning a quick buck.

Thank God for good boots.

At this point I'd settle for a 78-88 box set of that run. Remastered by Grundman. Maybe just a single disc of outtakes for each album. Why is that not possible? Save the superdeluxes for albums that warrant them.

Needs a certain estate to give a shit though.

purplethunder3121 said:

Thank God for good boots.

purplethunder3121 said:

Thank God for good boots.

Amen & amen......

purplethunder3121 said:

Thank God for good boots.

Gooddoctor23 said:

No one is doing more harm 2 Prince's lagacy than this Estate.

From the tired yearly celebration 2 coffee mugs to something next 2 nothing in releases

Prince's catalog is fading 2 Black.

I disagree, for the last decades and after his death it has been his own fans that sabotage his legacy.
If fans stop throwing there money on everyother pice of unrelated to Prince crap they sell and stop going to overpriced celebrations that only line the pockets of the organisers than maybe they would get a clue and sell us things we actulaly want.
The previous management fucked it up for everybody with that Netflix deal so now the hands of the current management are pretty much tied it seems. Funny that people are blaming them for all this instead of the bankers, WB stooge and Spotify nobody that ruined it for evryone.

AI =

purplethunder3121 said:

AI =

AI could save a lot, and could even do great things for Prince's music, if used and handled properly.
There will always be progress, either you're against it, or you try to ambrace the benefits of it, by first trying to understand it, then (try to) use it (properly).

For sure it wil be misused, and a lot of BS will be created by it. As it goes right now.

So far it's also used to pursue and try to realise human fantasies (among other things of course).

By the way, AI is everywhere, right now, even you're using its benefits without knowing it.

The general taste of people isn't always the best when it comes to use (new internet) tools for being creative. Just saying... Give it some time. It's young and kicking around.

Vannormal said:

purplethunder3121 said:

AI =

AI could save a lot, and could even do great things for Prince's music, if used and handled properly.

How? Prince's music doesn't need AI. How is an unfinished song being finished or "fixed" by AI any better than being finished by other artists that had nothing to do with it? Who wants that? It would be worse than the "frankenstein" mixes they try to pass off as authentic. In fact, that's another problem... the estate is not transparent. They will lie and tell us the AI finished songs are legit Prince tracks.

AI is FAKE.

Vannormal said:

purplethunder3121 said:

AI =

AI could save a lot, and could even do great things for Prince's music, if used and handled properly.

U can't be serious.

Gooddoctor23 said: