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Reply #120 posted 09/15/24 6:44pm

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RODSERLING said:

peedub said:



Did he say 'we're not releasing any material because we can't afford to because moron troll fans didn't buy D&P SDE'? Did he say anything like that?

Or, did he say something more along the lines of 'we're contractually unable to release stuff at this time. We're working on it. Stuff is coming'.?
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Again, that's BS. Want it or not, D&P was released last year, and the estate wasn't sued by Netflix.


Nowhere was it implied that the estate were sued by Netflix. The release date of D&P SDE neither proves nor disproves the estate's statement.

Dude...you're high on your own farts. Your insistence on maintaining industry insider status is farcical. It's okay to have opinions and express them as a fan. Just join the rest who freely accept that we have no idea what's going on.
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Reply #121 posted 09/15/24 7:20pm

RODSERLING

peedub said:

RODSERLING said:



Again, that's BS. Want it or not, D&P was released last year, and the estate wasn't sued by Netflix.


Nowhere was it implied that the estate were sued by Netflix. The release date of D&P SDE neither proves nor disproves the estate's statement.

Dude...you're high on your own farts. Your insistence on maintaining industry insider status is farcical. It's okay to have opinions and express them as a fan. Just join the rest who freely accept that we have no idea what's going on.


Of course the release date of D&P disproves the estate statement. If they could release D&P, then they could release Symbol as well, since the product was finished.

Sony didn't stop his reissues neither because of the Netflix deal.

Just cold facts.
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Reply #122 posted 09/15/24 7:34pm

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RODSERLING said:

peedub said:



Nowhere was it implied that the estate were sued by Netflix. The release date of D&P SDE neither proves nor disproves the estate's statement.

Dude...you're high on your own farts. Your insistence on maintaining industry insider status is farcical. It's okay to have opinions and express them as a fan. Just join the rest who freely accept that we have no idea what's going on.


Of course the release date of D&P disproves the estate statement. If they could release D&P, then they could release Symbol as well, since the product was finished.

Sony didn't stop his reissues neither because of the Netflix deal.

Just cold facts.
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Show me.

Show me your insider evidence. Show me you know what contracts were signed and what they obligate the relevant parties to produce and on what schedule they are obligated to produce it.

You present no facts. You know nothing.
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Reply #123 posted 09/15/24 7:48pm

RODSERLING

peedub said:

RODSERLING said:



Of course the release date of D&P disproves the estate statement. If they could release D&P, then they could release Symbol as well, since the product was finished.

Sony didn't stop his reissues neither because of the Netflix deal.

Just cold facts.
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Show me.

Show me your insider evidence. Show me you know what contracts were signed and what they obligate the relevant parties to produce and on what schedule they are obligated to produce it.

You present no facts. You know nothing.


Fact #1 : Sony stopped his reissues circa 2020. Why? Because it didn't sell enough to justify releasing more.

Fact #2 : Netflix deal made circa 2017/2019.
#3 1999 SDE was released in 2019
#4 SOTT SDE was released in 2021, just like W2A, and both releases had video material.

#5 The Netflix doc was shown to Londell circa first quarter of 2023.
#6 D&P was released nevertheless in October 2023.

Nothing contractually tied to the Netflix doc prevents the estate from releasing any reissues, Symbol SDE.
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Reply #124 posted 09/15/24 7:54pm

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RODSERLING said:

peedub said:



Show me.

Show me your insider evidence. Show me you know what contracts were signed and what they obligate the relevant parties to produce and on what schedule they are obligated to produce it.

You present no facts. You know nothing.


Fact #1 : Sony stopped his reissues circa 2020. Why? Because it didn't sell enough to justify releasing more.

Fact #2 : Netflix deal made circa 2017/2019.
#3 1999 SDE was released in 2019
#4 SOTT SDE was released in 2021, just like W2A, and both releases had video material.

#5 The Netflix doc was shown to Londell circa first quarter of 2023.
#6 D&P was released nevertheless in October 2023.

Nothing contractually tied to the Netflix doc prevents the estate from releasing any reissues, Symbol SDE.


These dates prove nothing about any contracts or their stipulations beyond permitting those releases on those dates. You have no idea the contents of any contract with Netflix. You have no idea what contracts exist or with whom, and you have no knowledge of what any of those contracts stipulate.
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Reply #125 posted 09/16/24 12:03pm

FrankieCoco1

Did someone get in touch with the estate and ask for Prince themed cruise?

https://www.nclhltd.com/n...er-show-at
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #126 posted 09/16/24 12:12pm

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FrankieCoco1 said:

Did someone get in touch with the estate and ask for Prince themed cruise?

https://www.nclhltd.com/n...er-show-at


JFC. This is beyond embarrassing.
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Reply #127 posted 09/16/24 12:14pm

BlueShakooo

FrankieCoco1 said:

Did someone get in touch with the estate and ask for Prince themed cruise?

https://www.nclhltd.com/n...er-show-at


Wow!!! All gas, no breaks: the Purple Rain Musical, a Prince cruise AND Celebration 2025!!! All aboard!!! What are we actually complaining about? I'm sure it's exactly what Prince would have wanted.
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Reply #128 posted 09/16/24 1:56pm

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"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #129 posted 09/16/24 3:21pm

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Think they misread the title of this thread as advocacy of ideas for cruise

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Reply #130 posted 09/16/24 4:33pm

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Ideas?

SDEs/DEs:

Every year should see a nice collector's set, but they don't all need to be giant box sets. One year they could do a giant SDE set for something like say Parade, the next year they could do something that would be a much smaller set, 3CD or so, for something like Dirty Mind or Controversy. Following the year after that with another giant set for something big, and so on.

The books in the set do not need to be huge and full of ephemera, it's nice, but if it adds too much to the cost, something smaller would do.

Although vinyl is very important these days, there is no need for overly expensive SDE vinyl sets. They can break them up for vinyl: The album, maybe a deluxe album with singles/bsides, and vault series. For instance D&P 2LP, D&P Deluxe 4LP, D&P From The Vault Vol.1, Vol.2 & Vol. 3 each as a 1LP or 2LP, and finally D&P From The Vault Live 3LP. Break up the releases over several months or even a year.

The SDE CD sets are expensive, but not overly so considering content and if the booklets are simplified and the size of the box is reduced the price can come down and more will sell.

RSD:

Record Store Day is a big deal for appealing to collectors, collectors who are used to spending big chunks of money, collector's who can be turned on to Prince based on a cool RSD release and then go on to continue spending money. RSD releases should never be so boring as to simply be a diff color than a more widely released version of the same record. They should be creative, and often be things that are too niche or obscure for larger release. Versace Experience was on the right track in those respects, but missed the ball on content. Imagine a Dream Factory RSD only 2LP in limited numbers that would sell out if not on RSD, at least within a few months, vinyl only with a download code... Who wouldn't get up early on a Saturday in April to go grab that?!? Or maybe something more well known like another limited edition release of Black Album? Like in 94, keep it limited in numbers so it sells out within a year or less but give fans who missed out a chance to own it, on LP and on CD. Or The Undertaker? Or The War 12" Single, etc. etc. etc.... Hell, the nerds (like me) who shop RSD would snap up Madhouse releases if they were marketed right. RSD is a no-brainer.

Reissues:

For a while there they were doing this right, first time vinyl releases of C&D, Emancipation, ONA, ONAL, Musicology, 3121, Planet Earth and more. Vinyl reissues of rare records like Come, Gold Experience, Rainbow Children Rave Un2, and more. CD reissues of all of the above. This is essential. And they didn't finish, Black Album already mentioned, Crystal Ball, The NPGMC albums, 20Ten, both HitNRun Volumes, etc. These need first time on vinyl releases and to be back in print on CD.

The 3 NPG albums are another no-brainer for CD & vinyl reissues. I'm never going to get the Exodus SDE I want probably, but since the original vinyl was squeezed onto one record and the Edel CD had an audio glitch, I would rebuy both formats in a heartbeat. Likewise with 2LP releases of GoldNigga & Newpower Soul.

Proteges & associated artists also need some reissues and maybe even some collector sets.

Music Club:

A music club, not just digital, but offering exclusive physical releases, shoud have at least 2 live releases a year, 1 from a big tour and 1 from a small venue, plus at least one vault release of studio material a year. Focus on stuff fans will salivate over but average music listeners may not hip to.

PR Battle:

Stop it. Since you won't, focus on some of these ideas for reissues in the meantime. Imagine if instead of PR 2015 Remaster on splattered vinyl, all they could offer was a deluxe 3LP of the album with singles & b-sides and a 2LP release of the vault disc from the Purple Rain Deluxe CD release. At least we would have something that's never been on vinyl before, instead of just another vinyl release of the worst mastering of an album that is widely available already.

Non-music:

Not interested in licensed nicknacks with the symbol on them or clothes that only look good on Prince & strippers. Not interested in Celebrations or musicals. I just want the music and I want to buy it on vinyl and on CD and on Blu-Ray. I will buy music that is digital only but I will not be a happy customer and will feel ripped off no matter how good it is if I don't have a physical copy to collect.



Now, others may feel differently. In fact, I'm sure many do. Just sayin', Lord willing I'll still be around for a few more decades, and in that time I'm willing to keep spending money on Prince music, and I'm pretty sure there's enough in the vault (counting live shows of course) to keep me spending money every year I'm still here. This is how to get my money and keep getting my money.




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