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Thread started 09/13/24 1:21pm

BEAUGARDE

Tick, Tick Bang/Trouble '81

I heard both songs before but Trouble sounds like Living in The New Wave. What's up with that?

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Reply #1 posted 09/13/24 4:11pm

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BEAUGARDE said:

I heard both songs before but Trouble sounds like Living in The New Wave. What's up with that?

Trouble and So Fine are just instrumental versions of two songs from André Cymone's first albums. They first appeared on the Studio Nights bootleg collection in 1995 and, like Suzie Lovelace by BrownMark, apparently ended-up there either by mistake or maliciously passed as Prince tracks, but as far as we know he had nothing to do with them. All those tracks (as well as the City Lights series) apparently came from a single individual's personal collection, so it's likely this person also had those three tracks on tape and just gave them to the bootlegger alongside the Prince tracks.

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Reply #2 posted 09/15/24 7:58pm

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BEAUGARDE said:

I heard both songs before but Trouble sounds like Living in The New Wave. What's up with that?

It sounds like you're referring to similarities between two songs: "Trouble" and "Living in the New Wave." Without specific details about the artists or versions of these songs, I can give a general explanation of why they might sound similar.

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Reply #3 posted 09/16/24 7:31am

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lucillecorley said:

BEAUGARDE said:

I heard both songs before but Trouble sounds like Living in The New Wave. What's up with that?

It sounds like you're referring to similarities between two songs: "Trouble" and "Living in the New Wave." Without specific details about the artists or versions of these songs, I can give a general explanation of why they might sound similar.

They're refering to this bootleg as the original source: https://www.discogs.com/r...-1976-1987

My reply above explains what happened.

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Reply #4 posted 09/16/24 9:47am

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Off topic but I'd love to see a documentary on the Prince bootleg scene. It seems like there have been so many legends, myths, misunderstandings, feuds etc over the years it'd be interesting to have them all laid out.

When Prince was around it was unlikely since people wanted to remain anonymous for obvious reasons. Now that seems like less of an issue? Or an issue that could be fairly easily overcome.
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Reply #5 posted 09/16/24 10:17am

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Ndorphinmachina said:

Off topic but I'd love to see a documentary on the Prince bootleg scene. It seems like there have been so many legends, myths, misunderstandings, feuds etc over the years it'd be interesting to have them all laid out. When Prince was around it was unlikely since people wanted to remain anonymous for obvious reasons. Now that seems like less of an issue? Or an issue that could be fairly easily overcome.

It's actually a brilliant idea. I guess most interviewees would have to be blurred and be very careful of what they say (illegal shit remains illegal, though it's possible statute of limitations may be applicable in some old cases), and it remains to be seen how many people would actually be willing to talk, but it would be very, very interesting.

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Reply #6 posted 09/16/24 10:51am

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Ndorphinmachina said:

Off topic but I'd love to see a documentary on the Prince bootleg scene. It seems like there have been so many legends, myths, misunderstandings, feuds etc over the years it'd be interesting to have them all laid out. When Prince was around it was unlikely since people wanted to remain anonymous for obvious reasons. Now that seems like less of an issue? Or an issue that could be fairly easily overcome.

A great idea, especially for newer fans. Those of us that grew up along with it know a lot of the stories and history of the releases (The early days with Jewel Box and Crucial, the excitement around Dreams, and Cosmos, and H2O!)... it would be cool to see that in a history.

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Reply #7 posted 09/16/24 12:35pm

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databank said:

It's actually a brilliant idea. I guess most interviewees would have to be blurred...

Like, blurring Prince's own image and using the "Bob George" voice filter for explaining the 'black album' lol

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Reply #8 posted 09/17/24 12:37pm

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nayroo2002 said:

databank said:

It's actually a brilliant idea. I guess most interviewees would have to be blurred...

Like, blurring Prince's own image and using the "Bob George" voice filter for explaining the 'black album' lol



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Reply #9 posted 09/17/24 11:40pm

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databank said:

Ndorphinmachina said:

Off topic but I'd love to see a documentary on the Prince bootleg scene. It seems like there have been so many legends, myths, misunderstandings, feuds etc over the years it'd be interesting to have them all laid out. When Prince was around it was unlikely since people wanted to remain anonymous for obvious reasons. Now that seems like less of an issue? Or an issue that could be fairly easily overcome.

It's actually a brilliant idea. I guess most interviewees would have to be blurred and be very careful of what they say (illegal shit remains illegal, though it's possible statute of limitations may be applicable in some old cases), and it remains to be seen how many people would actually be willing to talk, but it would be very, very interesting.

Maybe, if prescription(s) of the offence(s) expired...

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I see it more working as a book instead of a documentary for obvious reasons. It could be informative (sources, processes, distribution...) and at the same time hilarious in regard of behind-the-scenes, shit you couldn't make it up.

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Reply #10 posted 09/18/24 5:43am

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databank said:



Ndorphinmachina said:


Off topic but I'd love to see a documentary on the Prince bootleg scene. It seems like there have been so many legends, myths, misunderstandings, feuds etc over the years it'd be interesting to have them all laid out. When Prince was around it was unlikely since people wanted to remain anonymous for obvious reasons. Now that seems like less of an issue? Or an issue that could be fairly easily overcome.

It's actually a brilliant idea. I guess most interviewees would have to be blurred and be very careful of what they say (illegal shit remains illegal, though it's possible statute of limitations may be applicable in some old cases), and it remains to be seen how many people would actually be willing to talk, but it would be very, very interesting.



in theory there's no real reason it couldn't be an officially sanctioned documentary. Assuming the estate was prepared to agree that no legal action would be brought against anyone involved.

From their point of view it certainly wouldn't damage Prince's legacy. Quite the opposite in fact, it would only serve to build his legacy and show the lengths and expense people have gone to. Plus I've no doubt there would be some very funny stories to be told along with some equally hilarious bickering.

In reality I know the estate would never agree to it, or at least not the estate in it's current form.
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