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Thread started 05/20/24 12:24am

bizzie

Purple Rain 4K UHD Blu-ray coming at end June 2024. From 8K scan of camera negative. No new extras.

Previous thread: https://prince.org/msg/7/470711

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What is known:

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- Release date 25 June.

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- UK gets two (limited edition) Steelbook editions besides the standard release. One has the same artwork as the standard release and is available through multiple retailers, the other one is an HMV exclusive: https://hmv.com/store/fil...ion-steelb

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- UK Steelbooks appear to have a later release date: 29 July.

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- No info on a USA release of a Steelbook; it is possible that they might be vendor exclusives.

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- Based on 8K scan of the camera negative. (2016 Blu-ray is based on a 2K scan of the interpositive, the first Blu-ray was based on an old HD scan first done for the 20th anniversary DVD release.)

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- "Purple Rain has been digitally restored from a new 8K scan of the original camera negative, and “conformed to the original theatrical release aspect ratio of 1.85:1 to provide the most authentic theatrical presentation framing ever to be released to the home.” Look for HDR10 high dynamic range only."

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- Sound has been restored “from the original Dolby Stereo (LCRS) archived 35mm magnetic film source elements containing the separate dialogue, music, and effects (DME) tracks. These restored elements along with the 20th anniversary’s 5.1 multi-channel print master were used to complete a newly remastered 5.1 presentation for the film.”

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- It seems we're getting a DTH-HD Master Audio 2.0 audio track, so that could mean we're finally getting the original stereo audio from the movie!

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- No Dolby Vision, no Dolby Atmos.

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- No new extras, plus the 4K doesn't have all the extras from the previous Blu-ray and DVD releases. Extras are not in 4K, however they might be upscaled to 1080p from their SD originals since the 4K standard does not allow for SD content. So USA buyers will need to hang on to their previous Blu-rays if they want to have all the extras.

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- UK gets UHD + Blu-ray combinations, with the Blu-ray containing the extras that are not on the UHD. Listings seem to suggest the Blu-ray contains only the extras that are not on the UHD, which would mean a new Blu-ray is included, not the 2016 one. If ther eis a new Blu-ray, it is possible the movie on that Blu-ray is a new encode, based on the same source as the 4K, and has the same updated audio as the 4K. However, this is all speculation for now, since no details have been provided. If ther eis a new Blu-ray, no info is known about its release in the USA.

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- USA gets UHD + digital code; the UK does not get a digital code.

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- The movie will also be available in 4K Ultra HD for purchase Digitally from Amazon Prime Video, AppleTV, Google Play, Fandango at Home and more.

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https://www.gruv.com/prod...tra_hd_uhd

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https://www.walmart.com/i...5463540741

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https://www.amazon.com/Pu...B0D3884H68

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https://variety.com/2024/...236001582/

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http://thedigitalbits.com...51424-1400

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https://www.fnac.com/a202...Blu-ray-4K

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https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0D1RSLGPJ

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https://www.cultura.com/p...52356.html

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/...B0D2LHHWSW

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/...B0D2LJ9M1Z

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https://www.billboard.com...235685059/

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https://www.instagram.com...9G7SgxV5q/

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Reply #1 posted 05/20/24 2:29am

LILpoundCAKE

I don't think I've watched the Purple Rain movie in over 15 years now.

But this is a great incentive to watch it again, in such good quality. Looking forward to this cool

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Reply #2 posted 05/20/24 5:24pm

dsimp8

I wonder if they were able to clean up the part of the film that was very dark in Prince's bedroom

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Reply #3 posted 05/20/24 7:01pm

blacknote

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dsimp8 said:

I wonder if they were able to clean up the part of the film that was very dark in Prince's bedroom



Do you mean "The Matter With This House" scene? If so, I don't know how portions of that scene could be improved much as some of those shots were sourced from a workprint and not the camera negative. However, I'm not a film expert.
[Edited 5/20/24 19:02pm]
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Reply #4 posted 05/24/24 1:53pm

sexton

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I preordered the U.K. standard cover steelbook since that retains all the extras from the previous Blu-ray unlike the U.S. release. This will be my sixth time purchasing this movie after previously owning the VHS, special edition DVD, digital and two Blu-ray discs.

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Reply #5 posted 06/07/24 8:29am

bizzie

FYI It's a BD-66, which is somewhat disappointing.

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Reply #6 posted 06/09/24 6:54am

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bizzie said:

FYI It's a BD-66, which is somewhat disappointing.



A Tudahl/McMillian/Spicer project so for sure disappointing.

This year was an easy layup and they all found a way to not capitalize on an anniversary year.

If there is ever other people in charge, i hope they start over with a clean slate with different authority on charge of things.
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Reply #7 posted 06/19/24 7:37am

bizzie

https://www.youtube.com/w...DDwJS2ts9A

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This unboxing video shows that we do indeed get the original (stereo) theatrical track! This is its first appearance in decades, since all home video releases since the movie's release on DVD have only included the 5.1 mix.

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Reply #8 posted 06/21/24 1:30pm

Se7en

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They re-released this in 2016 after Prince died. It was great seeing it on the big screen again, it was just like seeing it for the first time.

I don't know how much more "wow" they can squeeze out of it -- hopefully they don't go as far as some of the James Cameron re-issues that started to use AI to clean them up.

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Reply #9 posted 06/21/24 2:27pm

bizzie

Se7en said:

They re-released this in 2016 after Prince died.

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Like so many previous times: you're wrong.

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The 2016 BD uses a 2K scan of the interpositive, whereas the 2007 BD uses an old HD master originally created for the 2004 20th anniversary 2DVD release. So the 2016 release was not a re-release.

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Also, Warners has two internal treams who work on restorations (one of them works exclusively on releases for the Warner Archive label), and who have often gotten rave reviews for their work. It has nothing to do with Cameron's lazy garbage. Warners did 8K scans of the original camera negative.

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All of this has been documented in this thread and the previous thread. Instead of spouting nonsense, you could simply have read all that info and learned something.

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Reply #10 posted 06/21/24 2:28pm

bizzie

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Reply #11 posted 06/25/24 7:48am

JoeyCococo

The reviews i'm reading are all excellent...sound and visual. The 4K release is a major step forward is what I'm reading from reliable sites. I can't wait to get my copy.

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Reply #12 posted 06/26/24 7:29am

partyup77

Ooops! I bought the blu-ray then discovered I need to upgrade my blu-ray player to a 4K compatiable one.

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Reply #13 posted 06/26/24 11:20pm

Vannormal

There's (two) trailer(s) from Warners about this new release (12sec and 33 sec),

Strange is, the tiny bit of music played over it (at the end), isn't Prince's ... I think.

Anyone heard this ?

If so, why ?

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #14 posted 06/27/24 6:03am

partyup77

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Ooops! I bought the blu-ray then discovered I need to upgrade my blu-ray player to a 4K compatiable one.

Following up - my partner surprised me with an upgraded player so we could watch the disc. I didn't think the clairty could be much better than the bluray we have but I was wrong. The 4K edition looks really, really great. Interestingly, I feel like I was looking at the wardrobe in the movie for the first time. The texture of the fabrics, the embellishments, the sequins on Apples' gloves, so many things caught my eye that I'd not previously noticed. Some audience members in club scenes also caught my eye for the first time - so many colorful characters. Also, not based on new clarity but it dawned on me that the couple sitting behind Apollonia during The Beautiful Ones seem to be a reference to Joni Mitchell and Herbie Hancock. The darker movie scenes are lighter and brighter, stage lighting is incredible, and Prince looks extra pretty in this version. What a treasure! For those who need to upgrade to a 4K player (like me), now is a good time.

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Reply #15 posted 06/28/24 6:09am

Se7en

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bizzie said:

Se7en said:

They re-released this in 2016 after Prince died.

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Like so many previous times: you're wrong.

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The 2016 BD uses a 2K scan of the interpositive, whereas the 2007 BD uses an old HD master originally created for the 2004 20th anniversary 2DVD release. So the 2016 release was not a re-release.

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Also, Warners has two internal treams who work on restorations (one of them works exclusively on releases for the Warner Archive label), and who have often gotten rave reviews for their work. It has nothing to do with Cameron's lazy garbage. Warners did 8K scans of the original camera negative.

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All of this has been documented in this thread and the previous thread. Instead of spouting nonsense, you could simply have read all that info and learned something.



I was speaking of being re-released in theaters, not on any physical format.

You must not have read past the first line: "It was great seeing it on the big screen again, it was just like seeing it for the first time."

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Reply #16 posted 07/04/24 3:13pm

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Se7en said:

bizzie said:

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Like so many previous times: you're wrong.

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The 2016 BD uses a 2K scan of the interpositive, whereas the 2007 BD uses an old HD master originally created for the 2004 20th anniversary 2DVD release. So the 2016 release was not a re-release.

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Also, Warners has two internal treams who work on restorations (one of them works exclusively on releases for the Warner Archive label), and who have often gotten rave reviews for their work. It has nothing to do with Cameron's lazy garbage. Warners did 8K scans of the original camera negative.

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All of this has been documented in this thread and the previous thread. Instead of spouting nonsense, you could simply have read all that info and learned something.



I was speaking of being re-released in theaters, not on any physical format.

You must not have read past the first line: "It was great seeing it on the big screen again, it was just like seeing it for the first time."

Oh Bort, won't you ever learn.

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Reply #17 posted 07/07/24 1:40am

ghostof82

Watched the 4K disc last night, the film looked and sounded great - a fine upgrade. Pity they couldn't produce more extras - a retrospective doc would have been ideal - but it is what it is,the film is the thing. It's a very odd little film really, distinctly of it's time and seeing Prince so young with his life ahead of him is both exciting and a little sad. He was so great, our loss so huge.

Everytime the film has a Revolution performance and the film cuts to long audience reaction shots, I want to yell at the screen to get back to the band. It's half concert film, half afternoon matinee drama.
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Reply #18 posted 07/10/24 3:15pm

FragileUnderto
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Someone sent me their free digital copy. I thought it looked great
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #19 posted 07/13/24 11:08am

CandaceS

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Currently marked down to $23.79 (from the $33.99 list price) at Walmart and Amazon...

https://www.walmart.com/i...5463540741

https://www.amazon.com/Pu...B0D3884H68


"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #20 posted 07/16/24 2:20pm

TrivialPursuit

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I've been dealing with some medical shit lately. My roommate bought me the 4K UHD today as a cheer-me-up. I guess I know what I'm watching after dinner. Can't wait to see it.... again.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #21 posted 07/17/24 3:35am

JorisE73

TrivialPursuit said:

I've been dealing with some medical shit lately. My roommate bought me the 4K UHD today as a cheer-me-up. I guess I know what I'm watching after dinner. Can't wait to see it.... again.


I ordered the UK version so hopefully I'll have it by 15 august or something.
the screenshots look prety good and I can't wait to here the Master audio track

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Reply #22 posted 07/17/24 5:19am

TrivialPursuit

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We watched the movie last night. It looks really good. The saturation is turned up a bit, but it doesn't muddy the image at all. We kept saying, "Wow, that's a great shot. You can really see [whatever]."

It was so clear in parts, it started to take on the look of video. I was noticing smaller details, like the red sequins on Apollonia's outfit during and after "Sex Shooter," the actual pattern on Prince's vest during "Let's Go Crazy," and more.

The one shot of Clarence and Prince during the "don't I keep the heat on?!" scene was darker and muddy. It's a tough piece to fix. It is what it is.

There was also about 2 seconds of silence somewhere in the moment just before Prince flipped on the light switch and his father pulled the trigger. That's been rectified as well. I don't know why it was ever there on subsequent DVDs after the initial release.

The sound is really nice, too. So despite there being no new extras, the copy itself is really, really nice. I got no complaints.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #23 posted 07/18/24 7:48pm

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I've seen the movie so many times. I know the lines, music, scenes, it's like I grew bored of it. But I watched this new scan on a 65", 4K, HDR TV. And I had some wow moments. I had to pause it and look at some shots 😅 It looks really good. I made me apprisiation the movie again.
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #24 posted 07/18/24 9:40pm

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FragileUndertow said:

I've seen the movie so many times. I know the lines, music, scenes, it's like I grew bored of it. But I watched this new scan on a 65", 4K, HDR TV. And I had some wow moments. I had to pause it and look at some shots 😅 It looks really good. I made me apprisiation the movie again.


Same.

I remember hearing a commentary track where maybe LeRoy Bennett was on it, or at least Bob Cavallo or Albert Magnoli - SOMEONE - talked about the lighting. How the stage was bathed in one light, but the audience in another. Things like that I paid attention to again because that commentary was going in my head.

When "Computer Blue" started, I told my friend, "wow, you can really see under the risers." I never paid attention to Matt, Bobby, and Lisa being on a low riser, but the light coming under them from behind stood out to me. The red light in "Darling Nikki" felt more crisp and not over saturated or muddy.

Just a couple of moments.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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