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Thread started 07/14/24 8:34am

DisqueOD

I hope Prince is getting royalties for this!!

Found this on Bandcamp:

https://midnightriotrecor...e-volume-7

Track 2 is a direct rip from 17 Days (Piano & a Microphone 1983 version).

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Reply #1 posted 07/14/24 1:08pm

DJdirtymind

I smell a lawsuit coming
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Reply #2 posted 07/15/24 2:21am

Astasheiks

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DisqueOD said:

Found this on Bandcamp:

https://midnightriotrecor...e-volume-7

Track 2 is a direct rip from 17 Days (Piano & a Microphone 1983 version).

You ain't never lied! How did you find this rip off? eek lol

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Reply #3 posted 07/15/24 2:22am

Astasheiks

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DJdirtymind said:

I smell a lawsuit coming

For Real!

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Reply #4 posted 07/15/24 9:01am

TrivialPursuit

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While it's similar in places, it's likely not enough for a copyright suit. Experts could find 10 or 100 other songs that uses similar musical phrases in similar ways.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #5 posted 07/16/24 10:46am

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Is the piano 'riff' taken directly from the Piano demos?

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Reply #6 posted 07/16/24 11:59am

nxx

Yeah I think it's a sample

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Reply #7 posted 07/16/24 12:07pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

While it's similar in places, it's likely not enough for a copyright suit. Experts could find 10 or 100 other songs that uses similar musical phrases in similar ways.

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Are you serious? biggrin It's a recording literally taken from the Prince-release.

Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3.

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Reply #8 posted 07/16/24 12:18pm

nxx

Kares said:

TrivialPursuit said:

While it's similar in places, it's likely not enough for a copyright suit. Experts could find 10 or 100 other songs that uses similar musical phrases in similar ways.

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Are you serious? biggrin It's a recording literally taken from the Prince-release.


Yeah he didn't even change the key, I don't think - it's pretty blatant!

But, I doubt they're making any money from it so hey. People sample all the time.

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Reply #9 posted 07/16/24 1:28pm

Astasheiks

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Wow! hehe biggrin

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Reply #10 posted 07/17/24 7:54am

AZStreet

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Speaking of royalties...

Amos Lee's "Won't let me go"...remind me you of anything? I think I remember someone saying way back that he even looked like P...but I don't see it.

"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"

"Who's the foo singing will it's would"
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Reply #11 posted 07/17/24 10:36am

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nxx said:

Kares said:

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Are you serious? biggrin It's a recording literally taken from the Prince-release.


Yeah he didn't even change the key, I don't think - it's pretty blatant!

But, I doubt they're making any money from it so hey. People sample all the time.


It's not even a question of sampling, what key it's in, or if it's making money.

There are hundreds of common musical phrases. I guarantee you what Prince played that time isn't the first time someone's played it or recorded it. At that point, it just becomes a common phrase that no one has a hold on.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #12 posted 07/17/24 12:22pm

CRM

A sound recording covered by copyright is being used. That's the issue.

This track's just been released and will earn hardly anything. It wouldn't be worth the Estate's time and costs to pursue it.

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Reply #13 posted 07/17/24 1:00pm

nxx

TrivialPursuit said:

nxx said:


Yeah he didn't even change the key, I don't think - it's pretty blatant!

But, I doubt they're making any money from it so hey. People sample all the time.


It's not even a question of sampling, what key it's in, or if it's making money.

There are hundreds of common musical phrases. I guarantee you what Prince played that time isn't the first time someone's played it or recorded it. At that point, it just becomes a common phrase that no one has a hold on.

He sampled Prince's actual performance. It's a recorded piece of music owned by the Prince estate and protected by copyright.


It's not a case that he was just inspired by the phrase and adopted it into his own music, that'd be fine. What you're hearing on the track is Prince playing piano. So it's a bit fishy.

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Reply #14 posted 07/17/24 1:58pm

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This one must have had some legal action against it a few years ago, as it's off the major streaming sites, but it's a bold sample of a classic boot. Great track, though!

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[Edited 7/17/24 14:57pm]

[Edited 7/17/24 14:58pm]

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Reply #15 posted 07/17/24 8:10pm

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nxx said:

He sampled Prince's actual performance. It's a recorded piece of music owned by the Prince estate and protected by copyright.


It's not a case that he was just inspired by the phrase and adopted it into his own music, that'd be fine. What you're hearing on the track is Prince playing piano. So it's a bit fishy.


IF it's a sample, clearly that's another issue.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #16 posted 07/18/24 3:32am

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TrivialPursuit said:

nxx said:


Yeah he didn't even change the key, I don't think - it's pretty blatant!

But, I doubt they're making any money from it so hey. People sample all the time.


It's not even a question of sampling, what key it's in, or if it's making money.

There are hundreds of common musical phrases. I guarantee you what Prince played that time isn't the first time someone's played it or recorded it. At that point, it just becomes a common phrase that no one has a hold on.

Initially I was thinking the same, but did you listen all to way when the man starts singing?

Same melody, here and there same lyrics, same harmony and similar singing style. That's a bit naughtier than just using some chords or even a sample biggrin

Prince wouldn't have liked that. Whether the estate likes it or not, I don't really give a care about. But they have the law on their side ...

[Edited 7/18/24 3:32am]

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Reply #17 posted 07/18/24 6:44am

nxx

TrivialPursuit said:

nxx said:

He sampled Prince's actual performance. It's a recorded piece of music owned by the Prince estate and protected by copyright.


It's not a case that he was just inspired by the phrase and adopted it into his own music, that'd be fine. What you're hearing on the track is Prince playing piano. So it's a bit fishy.


IF it's a sample, clearly that's another issue.


It is definitely a sample. No ifs about it.

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Reply #18 posted 07/30/24 1:28pm

Astasheiks

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Amen! lol

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