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Thread started 07/04/24 5:48pm

KINA1

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Lyric: past or had?

Simple question in sometimes it snows in April, the last line is love isn’t love until it’s had. All of the lyrics sites say past. Isn’t that wrong? I’ve listened to the original original. I’ve watched him live and he doesn’t put his lips together like making a p sound he’s saying had and I hear it and there’s no t like would be at the end of past. Thoughts? Proof? Am I crazy and I’ve been singing it wrong for 30 some years? Thanks.
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Reply #1 posted 07/04/24 6:04pm

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I believe he’s singing “past”.

Yes, he swallows the last “t”, so it sounds like he’s saying “pass”.

But “past” makes the most sense because it rhymes with the final word from the previous line, “last”, and because it makes sense in the context of the sentence. He saying you don’t realize how much you love someone until you no longer have them.
[Edited 7/4/24 18:05pm]
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Reply #2 posted 07/04/24 7:58pm

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I've always heard "had" too but "past" makes more sense.

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Reply #3 posted 07/04/24 8:51pm

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I've always thought it was Past
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2
And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #4 posted 07/04/24 10:13pm

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Always heard " Pass"
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Reply #5 posted 07/04/24 10:32pm

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Had makes more sense to me. But the hardness of the P in Past is more aurally obvious.

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Reply #6 posted 07/04/24 11:52pm

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Or could it be 'passed'?

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Reply #7 posted 07/05/24 12:29am

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yes, and he also obviously says "august" and not "april" if you listen well enough.


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Reply #8 posted 07/05/24 9:36am

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It's "had." Watch the acoustic performance of it at Webster Hall.

Grammatically "had" also makes sense -- you have love for someone, you had love for someone. You don't pass love - which would be the present tense if he sang "past." You could have a past love -- if love is a person, but the way the sentence is structured he's not talking about love as a person.

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Reply #9 posted 07/05/24 9:37am

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lurker316 said:

I believe he’s singing “past”. Yes, he swallows the last “t”, so it sounds like he’s saying “pass”. But “past” makes the most sense because it rhymes with the final word from the previous line, “last”, and because it makes sense in the context of the sentence. He saying you don’t realize how much you love someone until you no longer have them. [Edited 7/4/24 18:05pm]


Right, and the past tense of have is had, not past/passed.

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Reply #10 posted 07/05/24 10:10am

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It sure sounds to me like the first letter of the word he sings is a "p". At the same time, I don't hear a "t" on the end of the word. So it sounds like he's singing "pass".

Which is "pass" closer to: "past" or "had"? "Past" obviously. That's why I'm going with "past". It's the closest to what I hear. I just assume he swallowed the "t".





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Reply #11 posted 07/05/24 10:17am

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you don't realise what you have/had, what it is/was until it's gone - over - finished - past.





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Reply #12 posted 07/05/24 10:40am

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leecaldon said:

Or could it be 'passed'?


Well, for years when it first came out, I was singing "passed."

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Reply #13 posted 07/05/24 10:48am

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TrivialPursuit said:

leecaldon said:

Or could it be 'passed'?


Well, for years when it first came out, I was singing "passed."


same here nod

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Reply #14 posted 07/05/24 10:52am

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LILpoundCAKE said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Well, for years when it first came out, I was singing "passed."


same here nod

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Reply #15 posted 07/05/24 11:05am

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FWIW, it's documented as 'past' in the Parade song book issued by Warners.

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Reply #16 posted 07/05/24 12:40pm

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langebleu said:

FWIW, it's documented as 'past' in the Parade song book issued by Warners.


I thought about that, too. Wasn't sure who had one.

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