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Thread started 06/23/24 5:54pm

motherfunka

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Celebration 2024 (PART III)

The previous sticky thread ( https://prince.org/msg/7/470796 ) seems to be locked out, so posting here.

I had GA tix.


I skipped the W party on Thursday. Friday started with footage from the Purple Rain tour at Landover, MD on 11/20/84. They stopped the fooage after Darling Nikki. There was a talk with Billy Sparks and then they showed Purple Rain in HD. Panel discussion with The Revolution, then the concert at First Avenue. I normally like Judith Hill, but she didn't fit well on some of the songs.


Saturday started of with footage of a reheasal from Reno on the Musicoloy tour. It was short, only about 30 minutes played. Morris Day was interviewd by local news guy. They had to bring out about 4 different microphones to get 2 that worked. Don't they check this stuff ahead of time? Morris mentioned he would be backed by the NPG and not the touring version of The Time. He didn't seem to like that fact. A couple of funny stories about grocery shopping and being in a hotel waiting for a woman to show up (more on that later). Morris said Prince always had his number and that he never had Prince's. That stuck out to me. Panel discussion for the Broadway show. Long break and then Morris and NPG show.


I skipped today too. Local bands outside at Paisley Park.

TRUE BLUE
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Reply #1 posted 06/23/24 7:50pm

bozojones

Wow, sounds like a letdown of an event. What should have been an easy slam dunk for the estate was instead another anticlimactic stumble and fall. Not at all surprising, though.

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Reply #2 posted 06/23/24 8:54pm

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motherfunka said:

The sticky thread seems to be locked out, so posting here. I had GA tix.


I skipped the W party on Thursday. Friday started with footage from the Purple Rain tour at Landover, MD on 11/20/84. They stopped the fooage after Darling Nikki. There was a talk with Billy Sparks and then they showed Purple Rain in HD. Panel discussion with The Revolution, then the concert at First Avenue. I normally like Judith Hill, but she didn't fit well on some of the songs.


Saturday started of with footage of a reheasal from Reno on the Musicoloy tour. It was short, only about 30 minutes played. Morris Day was interviewd by local news guy. They had to bring out about 4 different microphones to get 2 that worked. Don't they check this stuff ahead of time? Morris mentioned he would be backed by the NPG and not the touring version of The Time. He didn't seem to like that fact. A couple of funny stories about grocery shopping and being in a hotel waiting for a woman to show up (more on that later). Morris said Prince always had his number and that he never had Prince's. That stuck out to me. Panel discussion for the Broadway show. Long break and then Morris and NPG show.


I skipped today too. Local bands outside at Paisley Park.

Thanks for the update. wink Hope you keep us posted.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #3 posted 06/23/24 9:49pm

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It really baffles me as to why they show partial concerts.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #4 posted 06/24/24 3:37am

Vannormal

so...

that's it...

so far...

for this BIG YEAR

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and then this :

https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/purple-rain-musical-prince-preview-1235715963/

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for those who are interested :

“...Jacobs-Jenkins, who assured the audience of diehards that his book will draw on the 1984 film’s screenplay without radically reworking it... he intends to further develop the character of Apollonia and make some necessary pacing changes to fit a stage production...”

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and this :

"...the soundtrack’s nine songs are not enough material for a Broadway musical, they also revealed that the Purple Rain stage musical will draw on Prince’s full catalog, including songs that didn’t even appear in the film..."

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and also this:

"...Rachel Webb returned to the stage with two others to perform “The Glamorous Life” as Vanity 6. ... a Prince-penned song ... came out in 1984 ... it’s not a Vanity 6 number at all, but rather a hit performed by Sheila E...

As long as the songs are a sonic and thematic match for the realm of Purple Rain, who cares whether a tune appeared in the film?..."

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #5 posted 06/24/24 5:33am

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I think we can assume itll be a prince musical first, purple rain replica second
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Reply #6 posted 06/24/24 5:46am

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oh wait so now the musical is another excuse to not release new music? damn.

if anything the musical and the 40th anniv. would be a reason to release a PR SDE.

it baffles me beyond belief that during the celebration no one talked about new
and future releases or announced anything.

what the heck? eek

May U Live 2 See The Release of Parade SDE
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Reply #7 posted 06/24/24 7:03am

Vannormal

Imagine this; they release the music of the PR musical as an album for Chritmas.

Mind my words...

Shutupalreadydamn!

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Indeed, why don't they release two new songs, like they did last year?

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #8 posted 06/24/24 7:09am

bozojones

If I remember correctly, those two tracks didn't come out until a whole month after Celebration last year. But I wouldn't be surprised if they don't release any Celebration tracks this year because the Atmos Purple Rain is "enough" in their eyes. And also just to withhold from the fans because they're pissy about being criticized online lol

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Reply #9 posted 06/24/24 7:17am

Vannormal

bozojones said:

If I remember correctly, those two tracks didn't come out until a whole month after Celebration last year. But I wouldn't be surprised if they don't release any Celebration tracks this year because the Atmos Purple Rain is "enough" in their eyes. And also just to withhold from the fans

because they're pissy about being criticized online lol

Those in charge don't come here.

This place is a graveyard for them.

Here they can't find enough fools who'll pay $ 1350, or even $ 750...

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about that PR musical preview show;

(as) Vanity 6 performing The Glamorous life...

Vanity? What about Apollonia (in the musical I mean)?

Confusion.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #10 posted 06/24/24 7:45am

bozojones

Vannormal said:

bozojones said:

If I remember correctly, those two tracks didn't come out until a whole month after Celebration last year. But I wouldn't be surprised if they don't release any Celebration tracks this year because the Atmos Purple Rain is "enough" in their eyes. And also just to withhold from the fans

because they're pissy about being criticized online lol

Those in charge don't come here.

This place is a graveyard for them.

Here they can't find enough fools who'll pay $ 1350, or even $ 750...

-

about that PR musical preview show;

(as) Vanity 6 performing The Glamorous life...

Vanity? What about Apollonia (in the musical I mean)?

Confusion.

I'm sure they don't come here, but they have butted heads with fans who criticize them on twitter. Multiple times, in fact lol

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Reply #11 posted 06/24/24 10:52am

claudemorton

At this point we can only hope one of us in here or someone out in the world who is actually a fan of the music makes billions of dollars and can just purchase the rights to the music at some point, and of course release it as it should have already been released.

You have numerous professionally shot and/or high quality videos of concerts, reheresals with some of the funkiest renditions of songs (e.g. Shockadelica, Star Fish & Coffee, etc...), all the SDE shit for folks who care, the numerous unfinished albums, remixes, etc...

And instead this dumb lot of shitheads give us what, a dumbass woke musical? They are so incompetent it makes me think they are just tripping on having power they never earned, and should have never been granted.

Don't buy any merchandise, don't attend any "celebrations", and don't give them the time of day and watch how fast they pull their heads from arse.

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Reply #12 posted 06/24/24 11:08am

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claudemorton said:

At this point we can only hope one of us in here or someone out in the world who is actually a fan of the music makes billions of dollars and can just purchase the rights to the music at some point, and of course release it as it should have already been released.

You have numerous professionally shot and/or high quality videos of concerts, reheresals with some of the funkiest renditions of songs (e.g. Shockadelica, Star Fish & Coffee, etc...), all the SDE shit for folks who care, the numerous unfinished albums, remixes, etc...

And instead this dumb lot of shitheads give us what, a dumbass woke musical? They are so incompetent it makes me think they are just tripping on having power they never earned, and should have never been granted.

Don't buy any merchandise, don't attend any "celebrations", and don't give them the time of day and watch how fast they pull their heads from arse.


Yes a stupid musical no one cares about. They know what we really want but refuse to give us and they didn't even bother to release two songs from the celebration like they did last year. I think it's some kind of punishment cuz they think we're ungrateful.
[Edited 6/24/24 11:10am]
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #13 posted 06/24/24 3:48pm

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Vannormal said:

bozojones said:

If I remember correctly, those two tracks didn't come out until a whole month after Celebration last year. But I wouldn't be surprised if they don't release any Celebration tracks this year because the Atmos Purple Rain is "enough" in their eyes. And also just to withhold from the fans

because they're pissy about being criticized online lol

Those in charge don't come here.

This place is a graveyard for them.

Here they can't find enough fools who'll pay $ 1350, or even $ 750...

-

about that PR musical preview show;

(as) Vanity 6 performing The Glamorous life...

Vanity? What about Apollonia (in the musical I mean)?

Confusion.

They come here.

They even interact with us!

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Reply #14 posted 06/24/24 3:49pm

rap

I know he wasn't the most popular person to some here, but I do miss Michael Howe. Highly qualified and knows what he's doing. McMillan and Spicer come across as two individuals who both had a fleeting brush with fame and have been dining out on it ever since!!

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Reply #15 posted 06/24/24 3:50pm

rap

PennyPurple said:

Vannormal said:

Those in charge don't come here.

This place is a graveyard for them.

Here they can't find enough fools who'll pay $ 1350, or even $ 750...

-

about that PR musical preview show;

(as) Vanity 6 performing The Glamorous life...

Vanity? What about Apollonia (in the musical I mean)?

Confusion.

They come here.

They even interact with us!

Proof?

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Reply #16 posted 06/24/24 4:40pm

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rap said:

I know he wasn't the most popular person to some here, but I do miss Michael Howe. Highly qualified and knows what he's doing. McMillan and Spicer come across as two individuals who both had a fleeting brush with fame and have been dining out on it ever since!!



Eh, no one even knows who those two really are, at least the general public, so a "fleeting brush with fame" might be pushing it. Don't get me wrong, I preferred when Howe was running things too, but he had to monetize the estate quickly so we somewhat benefited from it. I believe McMillan and Spicer want to monetize it just as much (hell, why else would they even be doing it if not to make money? And to make money you have to sell stuff people will buy.) but all the infighting and ego amongst them and Prince's heirs is making it much harder than it was with Comerica and Howe. Having two separate companies in charge of his legacy, combined with two different records companies with rights depending on region or material, is a clusterfuck. I hope one of the outcomes of this current lawsuit is the judge allowing the heirs to sell their stakes to Primary Wave if they choose to.
[Edited 6/24/24 17:04pm]
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Reply #17 posted 06/24/24 7:36pm

rap

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rap said:

I know he wasn't the most popular person to some here, but I do miss Michael Howe. Highly qualified and knows what he's doing. McMillan and Spicer come across as two individuals who both had a fleeting brush with fame and have been dining out on it ever since!!

Eh, no one even knows who those two really are, at least the general public, so a "fleeting brush with fame" might be pushing it. Don't get me wrong, I preferred when Howe was running things too, but he had to monetize the estate quickly so we somewhat benefited from it. I believe McMillan and Spicer want to monetize it just as much (hell, why else would they even be doing it if not to make money? And to make money you have to sell stuff people will buy.) but all the infighting and ego amongst them and Prince's heirs is making it much harder than it was with Comerica and Howe. Having two separate companies in charge of his legacy, combined with two different records companies with rights depending on region or material, is a clusterfuck. I hope one of the outcomes of this current lawsuit is the judge allowing the heirs to sell their stakes to Primary Wave if they choose to. [Edited 6/24/24 17:04pm]

I was being a tad sarcastic but take your point nonetheless. And I fully agree and also hope the judge gives the heirs the outcome they're hoping for.

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Reply #18 posted 06/24/24 9:46pm

RODSERLING

Some orgers here doesn't even deserve that musical.

Troll #1 : " 40th anniversary of Purple Rain is not important because nobody cares about anniversaries"
Troll #2 last week : " Purple Rain SDE is gonna be announced this week and everybody knows that"
Troll #3 : " Purple Rain 40th has been leaked and we all know it s gonna be released this summer"
Troll #4 : " Purple 40th is gonna be announced during the Celebration".
Troll #5 : " the 4k blu-ray is going to have new bonus material, I know better than you, and it is tied with the SDE, and it a sign the estate has a marketing strategy"

Blablabla bullshit

Me : it s a total waste the estate can't just release Purple Rain 40th at least a few days before the actual anniversary. It would have been a smart marketing strategy, making the whole project benefit from free promotion by various medias outlets, who will celebrate the 40th anniversary anyway.
Every SDE needed at least 5 months to be released after the leaks. And there s still nothing leaked publicly.

Have a good day to celebrate that 40th anniversary.
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Reply #19 posted 06/25/24 4:06am

glamlife2

This was my first time going to Celebration or visiting Paisley Park even though I’ve been a fan since 1982. I understand the criticisms - more than anything I would have loved to have Apollonia, Jill Jones and Sheila E. there… or even The Family/F Deluxe. But the highlight of this trip for me was meeting other fans. I’ve met some of the nicest, coolest folks this week and it really uplifted the entire experience.

The Revolution on Friday at First Avenue were amazing. It was surreal to see them in the same space from the film, and I thought they played their hearts out. But Dr Mambo’s Combo really set the bar so high for the entire week with their Prince tribute show at The Parkway Theater. Margie Cox is one of the best singers I’ve ever heard, and it was great to see (and hear) Sonny T.

I don’t know if I’ll be able to afford it again, but this will be a great memory.
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Reply #20 posted 06/25/24 6:08am

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RODSERLING said:

Me : it s a total waste the estate can't just release Purple Rain 40th at least a few days before the actual anniversary.


They released the movie on 4k, and the soundtrack in Dolby Atmos, a Revolution reunion, plus Swenson's book. I think for the general public (and mass media), that's enough.

There were never any announcment nor rumors of an SDE (like there were for D&P), so I would assume it doesn't exist, maybe because it's a soundtrack owned by WB, and the vault tracks would be owned by Sony. Who knows!

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Reply #21 posted 06/25/24 6:36am

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id like to think something is in the works if that 1st ave shows was pulled by warners from youtube

but it might be that as a deluxe edition was released not that long ago already, they dont see the point in doing another one right now

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Reply #22 posted 06/25/24 8:38am

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RODSERLING said:

Some orgers here doesn't even deserve that musical. Troll #1 : " 40th anniversary of Purple Rain is not important because nobody cares about anniversaries" Troll #2 last week : " Purple Rain SDE is gonna be announced this week and everybody knows that" Troll #3 : " Purple Rain 40th has been leaked and we all know it s gonna be released this summer" Troll #4 : " Purple 40th is gonna be announced during the Celebration". Troll #5 : " the 4k blu-ray is going to have new bonus material, I know better than you, and it is tied with the SDE, and it a sign the estate has a marketing strategy" Blablabla bullshit Me : it s a total waste the estate can't just release Purple Rain 40th at least a few days before the actual anniversary. It would have been a smart marketing strategy, making the whole project benefit from free promotion by various medias outlets, who will celebrate the 40th anniversary anyway. Every SDE needed at least 5 months to be released after the leaks. And there s still nothing leaked publicly. Have a good day to celebrate that 40th anniversary.



Are you seriously suggesting that a person who uses logic and common sense is a troll?

1.) Hardcore fans are always going to buy the music, regardless of when it's released. How can you disagree with that? Do you really think less hardcore fans would buy a PR SDE if it's released next year because it's not the anniversary year?

2.) According to the experts (professional marketers), casual fans simply don't care about anniversaries. This isn't merely an impression or anacdotel. They have the data (sales figures) to back it up. Releasing a media product (album, movie, book) in the anniversary year barely moves the needle.

If you dismiss that, then *you* ar the troll, not me.


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Reply #23 posted 06/25/24 9:20am

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billymeade said:



RODSERLING said:


Me : it s a total waste the estate can't just release Purple Rain 40th at least a few days before the actual anniversary.



They released the movie on 4k, and the soundtrack in Dolby Atmos, a Revolution reunion, plus Swenson's book. I think for the general public (and mass media), that's enough.

There were never any announcment nor rumors of an SDE (like there were for D&P), so I would assume it doesn't exist, maybe because it's a soundtrack owned by WB, and the vault tracks would be owned by Sony. Who knows!



From my understanding the Estate has the rights to unreleased material,so that shouldn't be an issue. Sony has the rights to certain legacy albums "as is", as does WB, but expanded reissues and deluxe editions would fall under different contracts made with the legacy album rights holders for those specific releases.
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Reply #24 posted 06/25/24 3:33pm

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rap said:

PennyPurple said:

They come here.

They even interact with us!

Proof?

Lawnie, Spicer, & Sharon are fonts on this site! yes

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Reply #25 posted 06/26/24 2:40am

Vannormal

billymeade said:

RODSERLING said:

Me : it s a total waste the estate can't just release Purple Rain 40th at least a few days before the actual anniversary.


They released the movie on 4k, and the soundtrack in Dolby Atmos, a Revolution reunion, plus Swenson's book. I think for the general public (and mass media), that's enough.

There were never any announcment nor rumors of an SDE (like there were for D&P), so I would assume it doesn't exist, maybe because it's a soundtrack owned by WB, and the vault tracks would be owned by Sony. Who knows!

Plus we have now the official release of the splatter vinyl version of PR as well (yawn), for whatever it's worth.

Not to forget, Prupel rain bed sheets and rubber boots.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Vannormal said:

billymeade said:


They released the movie on 4k, and the soundtrack in Dolby Atmos, a Revolution reunion, plus Swenson's book. I think for the general public (and mass media), that's enough.

There were never any announcment nor rumors of an SDE (like there were for D&P), so I would assume it doesn't exist, maybe because it's a soundtrack owned by WB, and the vault tracks would be owned by Sony. Who knows!

Plus we have now the official release of the splatter vinyl version of PR as well (yawn), for whatever it's worth.

Not to forget, Prupel rain bed sheets and rubber boots.


perhaps there will also be new merchandise with this splatter 'artwork' smile

May U Live 2 See The Release of Parade SDE
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LILpoundCAKE said:

Vannormal said:

Plus we have now the official release of the splatter vinyl version of PR as well (yawn), for whatever it's worth.

Not to forget, Prupel rain bed sheets and rubber boots.


perhaps there will also be new merchandise with this splatter 'artwork' smile

Maybe some rubber bed sheets?

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #28 posted 06/26/24 2:56pm

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RODSERLING said:

Some orgers here doesn't even deserve that musical. Troll #1 : " 40th anniversary of Purple Rain is not important because nobody cares about anniversaries" Troll #2 last week : " Purple Rain SDE is gonna be announced this week and everybody knows that" Troll #3 : " Purple Rain 40th has been leaked and we all know it s gonna be released this summer" Troll #4 : " Purple 40th is gonna be announced during the Celebration". Troll #5 : " the 4k blu-ray is going to have new bonus material, I know better than you, and it is tied with the SDE, and it a sign the estate has a marketing strategy" Blablabla bullshit Me : it s a total waste the estate can't just release Purple Rain 40th at least a few days before the actual anniversary. It would have been a smart marketing strategy, making the whole project benefit from free promotion by various medias outlets, who will celebrate the 40th anniversary anyway. Every SDE needed at least 5 months to be released after the leaks. And there s still nothing leaked publicly. Have a good day to celebrate that 40th anniversary.

Are you even a fan, or just a contrarian like Bort?!

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Reply #29 posted 06/26/24 4:10pm

RODSERLING

lurker316 said:



RODSERLING said:


Some orgers here doesn't even deserve that musical. Troll #1 : " 40th anniversary of Purple Rain is not important because nobody cares about anniversaries" Troll #2 last week : " Purple Rain SDE is gonna be announced this week and everybody knows that" Troll #3 : " Purple Rain 40th has been leaked and we all know it s gonna be released this summer" Troll #4 : " Purple 40th is gonna be announced during the Celebration". Troll #5 : " the 4k blu-ray is going to have new bonus material, I know better than you, and it is tied with the SDE, and it a sign the estate has a marketing strategy" Blablabla bullshit Me : it s a total waste the estate can't just release Purple Rain 40th at least a few days before the actual anniversary. It would have been a smart marketing strategy, making the whole project benefit from free promotion by various medias outlets, who will celebrate the 40th anniversary anyway. Every SDE needed at least 5 months to be released after the leaks. And there s still nothing leaked publicly. Have a good day to celebrate that 40th anniversary.



Are you seriously suggesting that a person who uses logic and common sense is a troll?

1.) Hardcore fans are always going to buy the music, regardless of when it's released. How can you disagree with that? Do you really think less hardcore fans would buy a PR SDE if it's released next year because it's not the anniversary year?

2.) According to the experts (professional marketers), casual fans simply don't care about anniversaries. This isn't merely an impression or anacdotel. They have the data (sales figures) to back it up. Releasing a media product (album, movie, book) in the anniversary year barely moves the needle.

If you dismiss that, then *you* ar the troll, not me.





Can' t you just understand they could have benefited from free buzz?
Of course hardcore fans will buy it anyway.
I know fans who are not even aware of the releases.
Also it could have done something for Purple Rain streaming numbers, that are weak compared to others big artists from the 80's.


If you want these to stay confidential, so be it.
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