JorisE73 said:

If only Primary Wave had a bigger stake than 50% then I'm sure we would be 'flooded' with releases instead of Paisley Park becoming a glorified clothing store with ugly overpriced ware Prince wouldn't even be caught dead in

Maybe at the end of the in-fightings and the on going case.

But it will take years anyway...

fredmagnus said:

JorisE73 said:

If only Primary Wave had a bigger stake than 50% then I'm sure we would be 'flooded' with releases instead of Paisley Park becoming a glorified clothing store with ugly overpriced ware Prince wouldn't even be caught dead in

Maybe at the end of the in-fightings and the on going case.

But it will take years anyway...

Funny that a lawyer is in there messing it all up. Remember that Prince warned everybody about lawyers, accountants and other suits running record companies that know nothing about music and that;s why it went down the drain and now ironically it's Paisley Park's turn it seems.

no one in charge of things is prob doing the absolute greatest job, though im hoping they are trying to (no idea, there are no articles on or interviews with the estate, etc, maybe jon bream should be commissioned to write something on it) but prince could have taken care of his business better too tbh so this whole process would have been handled better. but we are where we are so...

rock hard in a funky place has become flaccid

Kinda miss Howe.

dustoff said:

Kinda miss Howe.

I miss the fact that there was someone relatively communicative about the material, but also don't miss his "curation", constant mislabeling, NDA whining, frankenstein direction, and naivety. that being said, i think he would've gotten more adventurous with time. shame.

i don't think he had impure intentions, didn't strike me as anything other than occasionally out of his league wrt to the material. get him talking with people who know more than him and i think that would've been a great combo. people are forgetting that we really haven't seen what a londell and spicer led team can assemble, as they just gutted howe's work on D&L, put out half, and took the credit. this PR thing could be really, really terrible and terribly thought out. we just don't know. we're through the looking glass here, people.

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lustmealways said:

dustoff said:

Kinda miss Howe.

I miss the fact that there was someone relatively communicative about the material, but also don't miss his "curation", constant mislabeling, NDA whining, frankenstein direction, and naivety. that being said, i think he would've gotten more adventurous with time. shame.

i don't think he had impure intentions, didn't strike me as anything other than occasionally out of his league wrt to the material. get him talking with people who know more than him and i think that would've been a great combo. people are forgetting that we really haven't seen what a londell and spicer led team can assemble, as they just gutted howe's work on D&L, put out half, and took the credit. this PR thing could be really, really terrible and terribly thought out. we just don't know. we're through the looking glass here, people.

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I think it was fair to give them the benefit of the doubt during their first year in charge, but at this point? They still haven't announced or given anything they assembled themselves, and all they've put out is a handful of singles, half of which were botched in some way (i.e. the Celebration singles).

Both that and their lack of proofreading in their social media promotions show exactly what kind of quality control we're in for, if they ever get around to a major release. And I'm not even holding my breath for that at this point because they seem content catering to the indiscriminate fans that blow money on expensive merchandise and annual VIP passes for Celebration.

Forgot about the Celebration singles last year. Truly abysmal execution there. I don't even give a shit that they were just two random tracks, more stuff is always great - but between the audio problems and the truly terrible artwork that's worse than anything Prince ever did... EVER and that's saying something, it's just awful. Just fucking awful. My god I can't believe those two tracks actually happened.

lustmealways said:

Just fucking awful. My god I can't believe those two tracks actually happened.

My god I can't believe those two tracks actually happened nags are right in the middle of the field running/ruling the Prince Estate .

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If anyone was wondering I called it off with that married woman I was having an affair with, she was a nut. I said she had a nice ass and we engaged in some slap and tickle and then I call it off and she acts like I freaking left her Standing At The Altar. She's 10 years older than me with a kid!!! What's a boy to do... thank god I pulled out early.

love2thenines2003 said:

There are those who know and those who know nothing...u are clearly in the second team....and u are too in the camp of the troll ones...better than nothing in fine.

This sort of stuff used to be intriguing when Prince was alive. After all, you never knew what he might do next and some crazy-sounding rumor on the org might turn out to be true. But now? It's simply tedious and unfunny.

lustmealways said:

dustoff said:

Kinda miss Howe.

I miss the fact that there was someone relatively communicative about the material, but also don't miss his "curation", constant mislabeling, NDA whining, frankenstein direction, and naivety. that being said, i think he would've gotten more adventurous with time. shame.

i don't think he had impure intentions, didn't strike me as anything other than occasionally out of his league wrt to the material. get him talking with people who know more than him and i think that would've been a great combo. people are forgetting that we really haven't seen what a londell and spicer led team can assemble, as they just gutted howe's work on D&L, put out half, and took the credit. this PR thing could be really, really terrible and terribly thought out. we just don't know. we're through the looking glass here, people.

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When they released "Piano & A Microphone 1983", I was baffled and delighted at the same time.

Baffled, because it was a "minor" rehearsal that had been available on bootlegs for many years. It didn't really need to be released on CD, vinyl, and to be talked about in the media. I mean, it could have been an online release. No need for all that fuss.

I was also delighted, because it meant that the Estate of that time was willing to release minor, almost anecdotical stuff such as a (badly recorded) piano rehearsal. It was supposed to be a good sign of things to come. Eventually, it was not, but at the time, it was kind of exciting (all the rehearsals they were going to release! ).

So, yeah, I understand the sentiment. I kind of miss Howe as well.

howe seemed like a decent, studious, conscientious kind of industry guy. which to my mind, was good enough.

yeah, not perfect (the originals concept needed a better rethink), but hey, they released a lot of stuff, comparatively speaking.