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Simple Question: R u happy with the Estate? Simple answer from me: No, not even close. I think we should have overwhelmed with music some 8 years after Prince's death. Graycap23 was ME! |
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No, they've been a failure in every way. |
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Ok it's not what we expected but we can at least acknowledge that there were lots of releases since Prince passed away.
-"Originals" -"Piano & A Microphone 1983" -3 B-sides from "Musicology" -"His Majesty's Pop Life" -"1999" SDE -"Welcome 2 America" -"Live In Syracuse" -"Up All Nite With Prince" -"Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic" -"Diamonds And Pearls" SDE -"Sign O' The Times" SDE -"7 (E Flat Version)" single -"All A Share Together Now" single
I may have forgotten some ! I truly hope that I'll B still alive 2 get a "Parade" SDE (my favorite era) or The First Avenue 83' release (at last !)
Please ask Michael Jackson's fans what they feel... [Edited 5/24/24 0:12am] "Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search." |
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It was ok when Comerica was in charge. Not great or amazing or what it should have been for such an artist and Vault but ok.
Since july 22, with the current team, it's just getting worse & worse. Using time & energy in putting up cases and trials not in releasing music.
Sharon what did else you expect by hiring lawyers instead of music industry professionnals ? Now you reap what you've sown. And we all thank you for that. .
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If my math is correct, and I'm being generous here, we've got 24 CDs worth of previously unreleased music (studio/live) since 2016. That's about 3 CDs per year if we exclude 2016 and 2024. |
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I feel like out of all the MJ / Prince comparisons they're least relevant when it comes to fans and pining for unreleased material.
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For those 3 releases, It was an opportunity 2 get : -"Paisley Park (Remix)" & "Pop Life (Extended Version)", "One Nite Alone" & "Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic" on CD. "Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search." |
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They could do more than what they're doing right now, we need more promotion :/ Shockadelica, she must be a witch
She got your mind, body, and soul hitched |
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"The Versace Experience: Prelude 2 Gold". "Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search." |
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What do you want from them? To release all the music at once? Like it or not I think they know what they are doing. You have to spread it out and be strategici with it all. I would rather wait for new music then have it all at once.
I would like to see PP used for more things besides tours and fashion shows.. The studios to be activiley used by folks even with tours going on. How cool would it be to be on a tour and not know who is recording there or who may be there.
Give it time.... | |
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"Prince fans are never happy."Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. |
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The estate that gave us 1999 and SOTT SDEs? Yes. They had their issues and shortcomings, but at least made a genuine effort with their releases. |
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I'd be happy if the Estate would organize themselves into a peaceful entity and open the floodgates of the vault. Like, really open them. |
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are you imagening a cartoon interpretation of purple music gushing out of a freshly opened vault?
"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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No.
I have no idea why the estate is being so slow about it.The music is already recorded.All they have to do is compile this stuff,package it nicely and watch us open our wallets,lol.
We should be getting two SDEs a year.And how about some blu-ray sets of the live performances? Let's get it out there!
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^^^ Good luck with that one! [Edited 5/24/24 19:07pm] "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Awesome quote from someone else about PRINCE: HOW TO PRINCE: > Turn up late > Dress better than everyone else > Say Nothing > Shred > Be the first to leave > Write an album when you get home and don't release it "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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SoulAlive said: No.
I have no idea why the estate is being so slow about it.The music is already recorded.All they have to do is compile this stuff,package it nicely and watch us open our wallets,lol.
We should be getting two SDEs a year.And how about some blu-ray sets of the live performances? Let's get it out there!
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[Edited 5/24/24 12:22pm] Yes they know we're willing to pay for more than one release a year so they should speed up the releases. It's also frustrating to see all the missed opportunities by the estate. U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn Free the  SDE now! |
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MIRvmn1 said: SoulAlive said: No.
I have no idea why the estate is being so slow about it.The music is already recorded.All they have to do is compile this stuff,package it nicely and watch us open our wallets,lol.
We should be getting two SDEs a year.And how about some blu-ray sets of the live performances? Let's get it out there!
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[Edited 5/24/24 12:22pm] Yes they know we're willing to pay for more than one release a year so they should speed up the releases. It's also frustrating to see all the missed opportunities by the estate. Indeed! By now,we should be getting a Black Album/Lovesexy SDE.They’re being extremely slow with this stuff. | |
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The Estate is too busy with the in-fighting to worry about what the fans want. Let's be serious all they want is $$$$ they could care less about Prince's Legacy.
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OH, and stop selling stupid stuff like pj's. Give us something | |
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They should stream Celebration for those who cannot attend. |
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My issues with the Estate's work: There have been problems of one kind or another with pretty much every posthumous release so far: either sound quality issues, misprints and, worst of all, frankenstein mixes. A strong lack of transparency (sometimes blatant lies in the Howe era) regarding what was found in the vault and what was done with/to the recordings they chose to release. Given the insane amount of material at their disposal, they should find a way to release much more music than they have so far (a subscription service being the most obvious solution besides the yearly deluxe package). I hope they will learn from past mistakes and that things will improve in the future. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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belief345 said: What do you want from them? To release all the music at once? Like it or not I think they know what they are doing. You have to spread it out and be strategici with it all. I would rather wait for new music then have it all at once.
I would like to see PP used for more things besides tours and fashion shows.. The studios to be activiley used by folks even with tours going on. How cool would it be to be on a tour and not know who is recording there or who may be there.
Give it time.... No offense meant to you or anyone else, but I'm sometimes baffled to see how many people are willing to defend a corporate, money making machine, when there have been a long series of objective problems with the releases. It's particularly sad when one remembers how Prince was constantly (sometimes viciously) attacked on this board in his lifetime, with every move he made being criticized by his own fanbase. What does it say about our society if corporate entertainment industries get more support than the artists that create the material in the first place? [Edited 5/25/24 5:40am] A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ |
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Did you included/calculate the edits and other (remix) versions per released SDE we all already have?
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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[Edited 5/25/24 13:35pm] |
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We've all got our own ideas on how the estate SHOULD be doing things and I don't think any of our ideas match up with exactly how things have been handled up to this point. Personally, I'd like to see three releases per year with a set schedule. For example; Every March - A one or two disc set containing vault material from the mid 90s up to his passing. Every June - A Live DVD/CD combo of a concert from the mid 90s up to his final shows. Every October - A Super Deluxe Edition of each of his albums from For You right up to the Love Symbol album, featuring all available outtakes from each album, live shows, DVD (if available). Also, I'd like to see proper remasters of associated artists albums to celebrate their own anniversaries. Now, if the estate did all that, I'd be truly delighted. But I know they're not going to do any of that. But I'd settle for maybe an update on what their actual plans are. If they have any. I'd be happy if they were to just let people know what to expect in the medium to long term. | |
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ShellyMcG said: We've all got our own ideas on how the estate SHOULD be doing things and I don't think any of our ideas match up with exactly how things have been handled up to this point.
Personally, I'd like to see three releases per year with a set schedule. For example; Every March - A one or two disc set containing vault material from the mid 90s up to his passing. Every June - A Live DVD/CD combo of a concert from the mid 90s up to his final shows. Every October - A Super Deluxe Edition of each of his albums from For You right up to the Love Symbol album, featuring all available outtakes from each album, live shows, DVD (if available). Also, I'd like to see proper remasters of associated artists albums to celebrate their own anniversaries. Now, if the estate did all that, I'd be truly delighted. But I know they're not going to do any of that. But I'd settle for maybe an update on what their actual plans are. If they have any. I'd be happy if they were to just let people know what to expect in the medium to long term. I think they might have a plan but refuse to share it with us (thats why there's lack of communication) and don't seem to care about our opinion and what we really want. Instead they upset the fans like last year when the estate refused to released all the celebration tracks for instance, but instead we only got 2 songs and it was like a slap in the face. And when they tried to get us excited about an announcement for Musicology, but we only got United States of Division. This move really backfired on them on social media, with fans feeling upset and disappointed. Instead of building a wall between us and them, they should be more open and communicate with us. I think that's the only way forward, so we can preserve Prince's legacy together instead of arguing. [Edited 5/25/24 18:18pm] U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn Free the SDE now! |
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