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Thread started 05/05/24 11:57pm

rap

What should be the role of The PRINCE Estate?

https://youtu.be/XRj4u06nRJo?si=TawjqUY0p4W4h0Hr

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Reply #1 posted 05/06/24 10:55am

Bean0Wild

rap said:

https://youtu.be/XRj4u06nRJo?si=TawjqUY0p4W4h0Hr

If moderators let this stay up when my old account got banned for DISCUSSING my uploads, i will swear to god.

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Reply #2 posted 05/06/24 11:15am

paisleyparkgir
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Bean0Wild said:

rap said:

https://youtu.be/XRj4u06nRJo?si=TawjqUY0p4W4h0Hr

If moderators let this stay up when my old account got banned for DISCUSSING my uploads, i will swear to god.

I think it's because they have some rules against music sharing.

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Reply #3 posted 05/06/24 11:09pm

dualboot

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rap said:

https://youtu.be/XRj4u06nRJo?si=TawjqUY0p4W4h0Hr



Thanks, could you give some backstory with links supplied to give it more context for the content of this forum and where we click on.
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Reply #4 posted 05/07/24 12:32am

rap

dualboot said:

rap said:

https://youtu.be/XRj4u06nRJo?si=TawjqUY0p4W4h0Hr

Thanks, could you give some backstory with links supplied to give it more context for the content of this forum and where we click on.

That link should take you there. As for context, it is Prince related so I posted it.

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Reply #5 posted 05/07/24 2:48am

dualboot

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rap said:



dualboot said:


rap said:

https://youtu.be/XRj4u06nRJo?si=TawjqUY0p4W4h0Hr



Thanks, could you give some backstory with links supplied to give it more context for the content of this forum and where we click on.


That link should take you there. As for context, it is Prince related so I posted it.



I know and thank you for finding stories for us. I just would like to invite you to add some story (one or two lines) in the post what to expect or what the gist of the movie is. To add to this site and the first post.
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Reply #6 posted 05/07/24 8:58am

7souls

dualboot said:

rap said:



dualboot said:


rap said:

https://youtu.be/XRj4u06nRJo?si=TawjqUY0p4W4h0Hr



Thanks, could you give some backstory with links supplied to give it more context for the content of this forum and where we click on.


That link should take you there. As for context, it is Prince related so I posted it.



I know and thank you for finding stories for us. I just would like to invite you to add some story (one or two lines) in the post what to expect or what the gist of the movie is. To add to this site and the first post.


Translation: I need everyone to cater to my needs
Ancient Egyptians postulated 7 souls.
Top soul, and the first to leave at the moment of death, is Ren, the secret name...
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Reply #7 posted 05/07/24 10:09am

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7souls said:

dualboot said:
I know and thank you for finding stories for us. I just would like to invite you to add some story (one or two lines) in the post what to expect or what the gist of the movie is. To add to this site and the first post.
Translation: I need everyone to cater to my needs

Not really, maybe it gets lost in the translation as English is not my primary language.

With links often going dead I would like to suggest to add some lines of context in the first post to keep the main post of the topic searchable or readable.

Another post has Hans Buff and the only the link. Also interesting and some info would about the links supplied would be nice.

Could be enough to put the main title in this case in the text like
What should be the role of The PRINCE Estate?
See the video with interesting disusscion between person x and y with the link.

It adds value to this site even when the links go dead.


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Reply #8 posted 05/07/24 2:09pm

nayroo2002

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They should also make the link clickable.

It's not witchcraft, especially on this old-ass platform lol

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #9 posted 05/07/24 2:12pm

nayroo2002

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Bean0Wild said:

rap said:

https://youtu.be/XRj4u06nRJo?si=TawjqUY0p4W4h0Hr

If moderators let this stay up when my old account got banned for DISCUSSING my uploads, i will swear to god.

it's only one mod now.

and you can swear all the fuck you want, BeanO!

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #10 posted 05/07/24 3:10pm

rap

Bean0Wild said:

rap said:

https://youtu.be/XRj4u06nRJo?si=TawjqUY0p4W4h0Hr

If moderators let this stay up when my old account got banned for DISCUSSING my uploads, i will swear to god.

Why would they take it down??

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Reply #11 posted 05/07/24 3:42pm

peedub

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rap said:



Bean0Wild said:




rap said:


https://youtu.be/XRj4u06nRJo?si=TawjqUY0p4W4h0Hr



If moderators let this stay up when my old account got banned for DISCUSSING my uploads, i will swear to god.




Why would they take it down??




from the rules...

Don't post trolls/ads/spam/get-rich-quick schemes/other junk.
Don't make posts that are inflammatory just to get people riled up. Don't post useless off-topic stuff. Even if a silly, no-purpose post seems harmless and fun, don't be surprised if you get a warning and the message locked/deleted. You might think it's cute, but Moderators who have to wade through tons of posts like this, don't. In general, don't post advertisements. Advertising may be allowed in certain circumstances; ask a moderator privately before posting. If a post is mostly just an ad for another website, it will likely be removed. In general, post if you have something to say. If you want to start a new thread, make it worthwhile. Don't be lazy and give a 1-sentence "what do you think about X?". At least explain your position, why, etc... make it interesting to read; you're more likely to get quality responses.

but, absence of moderators ensures you can skate on a lot.
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Reply #12 posted 05/07/24 5:12pm

rap

peedub said:

rap said:

Why would they take it down??

from the rules... Don't post trolls/ads/spam/get-rich-quick schemes/other junk. Don't make posts that are inflammatory just to get people riled up. Don't post useless off-topic stuff. Even if a silly, no-purpose post seems harmless and fun, don't be surprised if you get a warning and the message locked/deleted. You might think it's cute, but Moderators who have to wade through tons of posts like this, don't. In general, don't post advertisements. Advertising may be allowed in certain circumstances; ask a moderator privately before posting. If a post is mostly just an ad for another website, it will likely be removed. In general, post if you have something to say. If you want to start a new thread, make it worthwhile. Don't be lazy and give a 1-sentence "what do you think about X?". At least explain your position, why, etc... make it interesting to read; you're more likely to get quality responses. but, absence of moderators ensures you can skate on a lot.

To be honest, I am not particularly bothered. People can either click or copy & paste on a link or not.

[Edited 5/7/24 20:08pm]

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Reply #13 posted 05/07/24 5:46pm

peedub

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rap said:



peedub said:


rap said:



Why would they take it down??



from the rules... Don't post trolls/ads/spam/get-rich-quick schemes/other junk. Don't make posts that are inflammatory just to get people riled up. Don't post useless off-topic stuff. Even if a silly, no-purpose post seems harmless and fun, don't be surprised if you get a warning and the message locked/deleted. You might think it's cute, but Moderators who have to wade through tons of posts like this, don't. In general, don't post advertisements. Advertising may be allowed in certain circumstances; ask a moderator privately before posting. If a post is mostly just an ad for another website, it will likely be removed. In general, post if you have something to say. If you want to start a new thread, make it worthwhile. Don't be lazy and give a 1-sentence "what do you think about X?". At least explain your position, why, etc... make it interesting to read; you're more likely to get quality responses. but, absence of moderators ensures you can skate on a lot.


To be honest, I am not particularly bothered. People can either click on a link or not.



i'm not, either. to be honest, no, people cannot click on a link...not in your post.
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Reply #14 posted 05/07/24 8:09pm

rap

peedub said:

rap said:

To be honest, I am not particularly bothered. People can either click on a link or not.

i'm not, either. to be honest, no, people cannot click on a link...not in your post.

Excellent. Another satisfied customer.

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Reply #15 posted 05/08/24 12:44am

funkbabyandthe
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the role should just be to get me all my SDEs dammit.

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Reply #16 posted 05/08/24 7:26am

Vannormal

rap said:

Bean0Wild said:

If moderators let this stay up when my old account got banned for DISCUSSING my uploads, i will swear to god.

Why would they take it down??

mine was taken down because of a youtube link

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #17 posted 05/08/24 7:57am

Vannormal

First role of the estate should be to communicate.

They don't communicate now; And if they do, we all know the (detailed) mistakes are piling up.

They should at least communicate on a weekly level, about what they're doing, working on, what they discover, for US the real fanbase.

With good communitcation and interesting news, we as fans also are a part of their promotional machine.

Only they don't get that.

We can also spread the word via social media, about a 'waw-discovery', something like that.

Let us hear snippets, what's wrong with that?

It would make us all SO DAMN proud to be part of the Prince machine again, instead of NOT communicating AT ALL. And worse, wrong communication on top of that.

They handle it as if Prince's music and vault material is like a rare pre-historical discovery, a new found holy grail.

Prince's vault material just doesn't need so much banal secrecy.

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My guess is, since the new incompetent vampires took over, they've done shit. Nothing!

All we have by now is motly done by previous team, we all know that.

All they are doing now is... we just don't know! Presumabley NOTHING!

Big Year, means another way too late communicated SDE of some sorts, propabaly, presumably.

A failed 20 year celebration of Musicology. Rubber boots, and PR sbedsheets... etc.

My guess even is they have a very small team (underpayd?) working on... something.

Because it costs too much money?

And MakeMillions and Co only want to cah-in and don't give a flying fuck about what we think, want, or demand.

The only thing they do, is milking Prince's legacy. They make it TikTokable, Instagrammable, with the same old lame hit-songs known by basically everyone.

These so called social media Prince fans that only can name two song titles; Purple Rain and Kiss.

Look at all the reactions on instagram posts, Youtube posts, facebook posts, read what people write.

Recently someone asked if Prince would come and play soon in his/her country, not even knowing he is dead.

These 2,5 seconds, swipe-to-the-next-post-fans know nothing besides fake crying, purple hearts, and the copy-paste word 'genius' for the best.

These are the ones The estate focuses on right now.

Those who buy purple boots, bedsheets, candles, etc

I see the estate is still promoting the D&P SDE package via instagram...

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #18 posted 05/08/24 3:07pm

rap

Vannormal said:

rap said:

Why would they take it down??

mine was taken down because of a youtube link

Oh okay. I wasn't aware I was in breach of any rule.

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Reply #19 posted 05/09/24 4:53am

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Vannormal said:

The only thing they do, is milking Prince's legacy.


I would be fine with it if that meant more money for SDE releases, NPGMC-like services, giving more obscure eras (1996-2016, say) the attention they deserve, etc.

The Estate is a bit like Google nowadays. They seem a bit too focused on the money part of the equation. 15-20 years ago, Google were already an advertisement company, but at least they used some of their money to finance crazy projects that benefited the world. Things like Google Books and others.

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Reply #20 posted 05/17/24 10:10am

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This video deals with a mastertape copy of the Beatles pepper album.
It gives some insights in what to deal with regarding tape transfers.

https://youtu.be/e4e-baQt...0q7eu_cOwQ
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Reply #21 posted 05/17/24 1:46pm

EnglishGent2

peedub said:

rap said:

To be honest, I am not particularly bothered. People can either click on a link or not.

i'm not, either. to be honest, no, people cannot click on a link...not in your post.

Haha, you're flogging a dead horse here. I've explained to rap several times how to make a link clickable, it's just wilfull ignorance at this point. They probably post many things that might be worthy of discussion but if people can't click on it, they won't bother.

The orger formerly known as https://prince.org/profil...nglishGent
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Reply #22 posted 05/17/24 1:51pm

bozojones

There is so much more that the estate should be doing to help keep Prince's art and legacy alive, but all they can be bothered to do is post about album/single anniversaries on social media. Nothing insightful or new, just the occasional reminders that X album came out Y years ago. It's so frustrating that Prince fans are in a worse position now than they were back in 2017. The previous heads of the estate were kind of on a roll and starting to find their footing as far as releases go, but then the change-over turned everything into a clusterfuck, and now the estate is regressing instead of progressing.

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Reply #23 posted 05/18/24 3:10pm

FrankieCoco1

Any updates on when the latest estate court ‘shenanigans’ is scheduled?

Previous link if anyone is interested:

https://prince.org/msg/7/470573?&pg=1 (edit: removed ‘amp’ bit from link that I’d just noticed, so that any annoyances of clicking on it were removed)

Edit: And to answer my own question, the link below gives a list of documents that have been filed in this latest episode of ‘estate wars’. Seems to be regular goings on, so might explain attention being turned away from any music releases. I’ve not been able to access the documents as you need to subscribe, etc.

https://www.bloomberglaw....Q6OLHMTOO2
[Edited 5/19/24 1:13am]
[Edited 5/19/24 1:17am]
There may or may not be something coming!
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