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Thread started 04/04/24 8:27pm

SPOOKYGAS

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United States of Division released today.

Quite apt for the good old US of A. in 2024.

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Reply #1 posted 04/05/24 3:45am

MattUK

remind me.. how/when/where was USoD originally available?

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Reply #2 posted 04/05/24 4:18am

bonnie184

MattUK said:

remind me.. how/when/where was USoD originally available?

B-side of cinnamon girl cd single, 2004

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Reply #3 posted 04/05/24 5:30am

lustmealways

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This is so genius. He's saying we're living in a united states of DIVISON. this was a GENIUS move by the estate to re-release this now!!! absolute WIN, hats off to londell makemillions for this incredible wit and integrity. making quite the statement! division!!!

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Reply #4 posted 04/05/24 5:35am

lustmealways

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seriously though this song was always musically better than most of musicology

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Reply #5 posted 04/05/24 5:40am

MattUK

bonnie184 said:

MattUK said:

remind me.. how/when/where was USoD originally available?

B-side of cinnamon girl cd single, 2004

ok yeah, i think I had that single!

liked this at the time. good to have it available to stream.

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Reply #6 posted 04/05/24 5:44am

theblueangel

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This is like a completely different mix of this song. Like it quite a bit more, if I'm honest. The one that got released always seemed like a demo to me.

No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

Need more sleep than coke or methamphetamine.
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Reply #7 posted 04/05/24 7:33am

LILpoundCAKE

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This is like a completely different mix of this song. Like it quite a bit more, if I'm honest. The one that got released always seemed like a demo to me.


there seems to be a lot more space in the song now, you can hear the vocals way better
and yet also the individual instruments. good mix nod

I always liked this song but now it's better, for sure.

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Reply #8 posted 04/05/24 8:49am

Se7en

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The topics in the song are still relevant today! Maybe even moreso.

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Reply #9 posted 04/05/24 8:59am

lurker316

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Do we know if this was an authentic mix created or commissioned by Prince? Or is this a Frankenstein mix created by the Estate?


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Reply #10 posted 04/05/24 9:19am

Krid

Why is this song released today - for me at least totally out of the blue (did I miss something?)?

I know Musicology was released 20 years ago (gee, really?) this April, is this the reason maybe? Are we expecting a Musicology SDE also out of the blue (hey, if Beyonce and Taylor Swift can drop surprise albums, so should Prince lol)

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Reply #11 posted 04/05/24 12:22pm

MIRvmn1

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lurker316 said:

Do we know if this was an authentic mix created or commissioned by Prince? Or is this a Frankenstein mix created by the Estate?



As expected, the estate didn't even bother to provide us with information about the mix when they posted the "special announcement" earlier.
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #12 posted 04/05/24 1:38pm

Vannormal

lustmealways said:

seriously though this song was always musically better than most of musicology

Great song, just not a big fan of the drumprograming, and the lyric; "everybody stop fighting, everybody make love", plus the tired the chants.

But ithe instrumental part(s) are great.

(New) horns are a plus i think.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #13 posted 04/05/24 6:53pm

lustmealways

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Vannormal said:

Great song, just not a big fan of the drumprograming, and the lyric; "everybody stop fighting, everybody make love", plus the tired the chants.

But ithe instrumental part(s) are great.

(New) horns are a plus i think.

Stop don't start make love every night and all day...

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Reply #14 posted 04/05/24 8:34pm

RJOrion

I like it alot
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Reply #15 posted 04/05/24 11:55pm

olb99

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lurker316 said:

Do we know if this was an authentic mix created or commissioned by Prince? Or is this a Frankenstein mix created by the Estate?


We don't and we probably won't know unless it's part of another release with liner notes, etc.

Both are possible. If they remixed this from the multitracks, it was probably very tempting to make those horns louder. Especially if you don't care about reproducing existing mixes correctly.

On the other hand, it's kind of weird to have those horns so low in the 2004 mix. Maybe Prince played with different ideas at the time and this mix was one of the different mixes he worked on.

[Edited 4/6/24 3:23am]

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Reply #16 posted 04/06/24 12:53am

WhisperingDand
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Prince horns can never be low enough in the mix. Only good horn track is "Crucial", which remains relegated to bootlegs.

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Reply #17 posted 04/06/24 3:25am

olb99

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WhisperingDandelions said:

Prince horns can never be low enough in the mix. Only good horn track is "Crucial", which remains relegated to bootlegs.


To each their own. I've been wanting to hear the "full-horn" mix of "Lovesexy" ever since Eric mentioned it.

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Reply #18 posted 04/06/24 8:16am

Farfunknugin

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lustmealways said:

seriously though this song was always musically better than most of musicology

No, lol

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Reply #19 posted 04/06/24 8:28am

themanfromnept
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WhisperingDandelions said:

Prince horns can never be low enough in the mix

zzzz

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Reply #20 posted 04/06/24 9:04am

RJOrion

Farfunknugin said:



lustmealways said:


seriously though this song was always musically better than most of musicology



No, lol



I always find it strange how someone can tell another person that their personal opinion is wrong...by now, most adults should know that musical tastes and artistic likes and dislikes are completely subjective...there is no such thing as a wrong opinion in regards to art..it is clearly, "to each their own"
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Reply #21 posted 04/06/24 10:50am

lustmealways

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WhisperingDandelions said:

Prince horns can never be low enough in the mix. Only good horn track is "Crucial", which remains relegated to bootlegs.

the horn line in cindy c is one of the sexiest things i have ever heard ever. a woman could be saying filthy shit into my ear and that horn line would still be more arousing.

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Reply #22 posted 04/06/24 3:53pm

Superstition

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Never ran across this one before. Excellent track, mastered well in iTunes and the animated artwork is pretty good.

Very funky rock track. I need an instrumental!
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Reply #23 posted 04/06/24 4:43pm

funkbabyandthe
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horn charts on rock hard in a funky place are some of his all time best.

but overall, i think his horn arrangements started getting automated sounding post 88.

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Reply #24 posted 04/06/24 11:58pm

paisleyparkgir
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lustmealways said:

seriously though this song was always musically better than most of musicology

I agree.

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Reply #25 posted 04/07/24 1:28am

FrankieCoco1

I thought this was just a stream only release but just spotted a buy/download option on the Apple iTunes ‘wrecka store’ and Amazon. Also on Qobuz as a HD download ( https://www.qobuz.com/gb-...y4tesim9fa )

And this link is from Sony’s Legacy Recordings about the release.

https://www.legacyrecordi...usicology/
[Edited 4/7/24 1:29am]
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #26 posted 04/07/24 2:44am

LILpoundCAKE

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I thought this was just a stream only release but just spotted a buy/download option on the Apple iTunes ‘wrecka store’ and Amazon. Also on Qobuz as a HD download ( https://www.qobuz.com/gb-...y4tesim9fa ) And this link is from Sony’s Legacy Recordings about the release. https://www.legacyrecordi...usicology/ [Edited 4/7/24 1:29am]


it's baffling that they haven't prepared more to celebrate 20 years of musicology,
given this write up and sum up of great stuff they could use on a set for it.

it really is very hard to believe, but ultimately, we'll become used to it, I guess. neutral


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Reply #27 posted 04/07/24 3:02am

MIRvmn1

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LILpoundCAKE said:



FrankieCoco1 said:


I thought this was just a stream only release but just spotted a buy/download option on the Apple iTunes ‘wrecka store’ and Amazon. Also on Qobuz as a HD download ( https://www.qobuz.com/gb-...y4tesim9fa ) And this link is from Sony’s Legacy Recordings about the release. https://www.legacyrecordi...usicology/ [Edited 4/7/24 1:29am]


it's baffling that they haven't prepared more to celebrate 20 years of musicology,
given this write up and sum up of great stuff they could use on a set for it.

it really is very hard to believe, but ultimately, we'll become used to it, I guess. neutral



Well It's a bunch of clowns running the estate so I'm not surprised how they handle things. There will more disappoinments this year for sure.
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #28 posted 04/07/24 3:28am

donovd

FrankieCoco1 said:

And this link is from Sony’s Legacy Recordings about the release.

https://www.legacyrecordi...usicology/
[Edited 4/7/24 1:29am]

"Devised by Prince and his longtime lawyer, confidante, and Musicology Executive Producer L. Londell McMillan..."
LOL
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Reply #29 posted 04/07/24 5:02am

FrankieCoco1

Saw that about Londell 🤦🏼‍♂️

A Musicology release would be quite nice, wouldn’t need to be a super deluxe, just something like original album, plus live show and extra disc with the virtual B-sides and other stuff (this United States of Division track, Silver Tongue, Magnificent; could put last year’s Life O’The Party release on it, plus the 2003/4 version of F.U.N.K., then a few unknown tracks, extended versions). Maybe there will be something but maybe not.

My 2 pence worth about the estate, I reckon there’s too many cooks at the moment, what with Londell/Spicer vs the siblings left in court, primary wave (who seem to say nowt publicly), then there is the mess with rights between Warners, Sony and whomever else who has a finger in the pie. Not surprising they can’t all agree on a way forward with music releases. I’m still at the stage of waiting and seeing this year, I’d hope there can be something but not sure what. If come autumn there’s still jackshit, I’ll be miffed like most of us.
There may or may not be something coming!
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