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Thread started 03/08/24 12:53am

Gooddoctor23

Solo or Had U live?

Does any one know if Prince ever performed Had U or Solo live?

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Reply #1 posted 03/08/24 1:08am

Vannormal

A few clicks on PrinceVault tells you this :

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"Had U";

This track is not believed to have been performed live by Prince.

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"Solo"

6 May '94, Le Bataclan, Paris france.

first confirmed performance, although possibly performed earlier in 1994)



"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #2 posted 03/08/24 4:27am

RODSERLING

What was the point in releasing HAD U as the lead single, if he wasn't going tonperform it live, at least for a tv show?
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Reply #3 posted 03/08/24 5:37am

FrankieCoco1

RODSERLING said:

What was the point in releasing HAD U as the lead single, if he wasn't going tonperform it live, at least for a tv show?


Had U was the b-side on the only single (Dinner With Delores) from Chaos & Disorder, and Prince Vault mentions:

“It is commonly believed that the song’s placement as the final song on his final newly-recorded album for Warner Bros. was an intentional parallel to the use of For You as the first song on his first Warner Bros. album For You, accentuated by the song’s length and its tone. Prince himself has never confirmed this, however.”

Might explain things?
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Reply #4 posted 03/08/24 7:14am

Chastity

Vannormal said:

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"Solo"

6 May '94, Le Bataclan, Paris france.

first confirmed performance, although possibly performed earlier in 1994)



"Solo" was performed on 4 May 1994 in Monte Carlo too.

"Solo" 26 July 1994 at Glam Slam, LA

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Reply #5 posted 03/08/24 7:33am

RODSERLING

FrankieCoco1 said:

RODSERLING said:

What was the point in releasing HAD U as the lead single, if he wasn't going tonperform it live, at least for a tv show?


Had U was the b-side on the only single (Dinner With Delores) from Chaos & Disorder, and Prince Vault mentions:

“It is commonly believed that the song’s placement as the final song on his final newly-recorded album for Warner Bros. was an intentional parallel to the use of For You as the first song on his first Warner Bros. album For You, accentuated by the song’s length and its tone. Prince himself has never confirmed this, however.”

Might explain things?


Lol oh shit I thought it was I HATE U ! biggrin
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Reply #6 posted 03/08/24 11:36am

TrivialPursuit

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"Had U" wasn't the lead single, it was the lead b-side (along with "Right the Wrong").


"Dinner with Delores" was the only single outside the US. I had a friend in radio who gave me the promo CD because they thought it was a horrible song.

Prince didn't give a good goddamn about that record, at least on the outside. It fed his narrative at the time about record companies, etc.

However, being his dual-sided self, did make videos for "The Same December," "Zanalee," "Dinner with Delores," and "I Like It There." He did the minimal bit of promotion for it including the few appearances on The Late Show, and Today, etc.

I think the pull of his music as it related to him who made it allowed him to perform the songs live because honestly - who cared? Who was going to read into him performing "Dinner with Delores" although he said the album was only a contractual obligation? No one.


I like that "Had U" was the last real WB song. It was a bookend with "For You." And, as noted, despite him never confirming it, he knew exactly what he was doing. It was a big middle finger to Warner.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #7 posted 03/08/24 11:37am

TrivialPursuit

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So, to the subject at hand: I'd have to "Solo" is a more interesting song. "Had U" is historical for reasons I noted, but between these two, "Solo" has more melody, more interesting lyrics, it's moodier. It's also a real testiment to his voice and how amazing it was. He was jumping to a high falsetto then noodling down in lower ranges. It's just a fabulous track. Not one I'm putting on all the time, but when it goes come into play, I enjoy it.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #8 posted 03/08/24 12:11pm

Gooddoctor23

TrivialPursuit said:

So, to the subject at hand: I'd have to "Solo" is a more interesting song. "Had U" is historical for reasons I noted, but between these two, "Solo" has more melody, more interesting lyrics, it's moodier. It's also a real testiment to his voice and how amazing it was. He was jumping to a high falsetto then noodling down in lower ranges. It's just a fabulous track. Not one I'm putting on all the time, but when it goes come into play, I enjoy it.

I would love 2 see what he would have done with those songs live.

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Reply #9 posted 03/08/24 1:07pm

TrivialPursuit

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Gooddoctor23 said:

I would love 2 see what he would have done with those songs live.


Yeah, PVault says he did "Solo" live. I think had he not been balls deep in that WB fight, he could've staged a great tour and incorporated that in there.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #10 posted 03/08/24 9:27pm

RODSERLING

Had U seems to be a secret love/hate farewell letter to WB ( could be to his audience too), by referencing his complete discography :

Missed U
( For You : Prince wasn't complete before being in the music industry)
Called U
( Prince : the success)
Found U
( Dirty Mind )
Begged U
( Controversy : Rolling Stones concert)
Convinced U
1999 : was an obvious success)
Saw U
( Purple Rain : you all saw the movie !)
Held U
( Around The World...)
Kissed U
( Parade !)
Fondled U
(SOTT)
Tempt U
( Black Album : WB wanted to release it as the new Prince album))
Undress U
(Lovesexy, for obvious reasons !)
Smelled U
( Batman, a successful album again)

Wanted U
( Graffiti Bridge, he wanted to do Purple Rain 2)
Asked U
(D&P : Prince asked for more money)
Thanked U
(Lovesymbol : he was nominated vice-président of a WB départment)
Minded U
(The Hits)
Hurt U
( Come, with the name changing)
Disappoint U
( Gold and/or Black Album again, the Slave thing)
Fuck U
( Emancipation)
Had U
( Chaos and Disorder)
[Edited 3/8/24 21:29pm]
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Reply #11 posted 03/08/24 11:22pm

Gooddoctor23

RODSERLING said:

Had U seems to be a secret love/hate farewell letter to WB ( could be to his audience too), by referencing his complete discography : Missed U ( For You : Prince wasn't complete before being in the music industry) Called U ( Prince : the success) Found U ( Dirty Mind ) Begged U ( Controversy : Rolling Stones concert) Convinced U 1999 : was an obvious success) Saw U ( Purple Rain : you all saw the movie !) Held U ( Around The World...) Kissed U ( Parade !) Fondled U (SOTT) Tempt U ( Black Album : WB wanted to release it as the new Prince album)) Undress U (Lovesexy, for obvious reasons !) Smelled U ( Batman, a successful album again) Wanted U ( Graffiti Bridge, he wanted to do Purple Rain 2) Asked U (D&P : Prince asked for more money) Thanked U (Lovesymbol : he was nominated vice-président of a WB départment) Minded U (The Hits) Hurt U ( Come, with the name changing) Disappoint U ( Gold and/or Black Album again, the Slave thing) Fuck U ( Emancipation) Had U ( Chaos and Disorder) [Edited 3/8/24 21:29pm]

nice

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Reply #12 posted 03/09/24 3:09am

LILpoundCAKE

RODSERLING said:

Had U seems to be a secret love/hate farewell letter to WB ( could be to his audience too), by referencing his complete discography : Missed U ( For You : Prince wasn't complete before being in the music industry) Called U ( Prince : the success) Found U ( Dirty Mind ) Begged U ( Controversy : Rolling Stones concert) Convinced U 1999 : was an obvious success) Saw U ( Purple Rain : you all saw the movie !) Held U ( Around The World...) Kissed U ( Parade !) Fondled U (SOTT) Tempt U ( Black Album : WB wanted to release it as the new Prince album)) Undress U (Lovesexy, for obvious reasons !) Smelled U ( Batman, a successful album again) Wanted U ( Graffiti Bridge, he wanted to do Purple Rain 2) Asked U (D&P : Prince asked for more money) Thanked U (Lovesymbol : he was nominated vice-président of a WB départment) Minded U (The Hits) Hurt U ( Come, with the name changing) Disappoint U ( Gold and/or Black Album again, the Slave thing) Fuck U ( Emancipation) Had U ( Chaos and Disorder) [Edited 3/8/24 21:29pm]


I don't think it was as deep as all that, although looking at your list here,
there are a few really glaring stand outs that fit amazingly well. nod


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Reply #13 posted 03/09/24 4:08am

funkbabyandthe
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both songs are two of the most interesting things he did in the 90s

do i want to listen to them all the time? no, but they are both special in diff ways.

had u is def a sort of conclusion or for you, considering he even wrote a song TO warners when he was making his first album for them (the one about what a great relationship it will be).

shame had u wasnt fleshed out more but its got some of the coolest stuff happening that he did in the first half of the 90s.

solos vocal is one of his all time best. some credit has to go to david henry hwang too. it seems a very diff song to anything prince did before and im guessing some of that is down to DHW. i dont know exactly how they collaborated though.

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Reply #14 posted 03/09/24 8:47am

TrivialPursuit

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LILpoundCAKE said:

RODSERLING said:

Had U seems to be a secret love/hate farewell letter to WB ( could be to his audience too), by referencing his complete discography : Missed U ( For You : Prince wasn't complete before being in the music industry) Called U ( Prince : the success) Found U ( Dirty Mind ) Begged U ( Controversy : Rolling Stones concert) Convinced U 1999 : was an obvious success) Saw U ( Purple Rain : you all saw the movie !) Held U ( Around The World...) Kissed U ( Parade !) Fondled U (SOTT) Tempt U ( Black Album : WB wanted to release it as the new Prince album)) Undress U (Lovesexy, for obvious reasons !) Smelled U ( Batman, a successful album again) Wanted U ( Graffiti Bridge, he wanted to do Purple Rain 2) Asked U (D&P : Prince asked for more money) Thanked U (Lovesymbol : he was nominated vice-président of a WB départment) Minded U (The Hits) Hurt U ( Come, with the name changing) Disappoint U ( Gold and/or Black Album again, the Slave thing) Fuck U ( Emancipation) Had U ( Chaos and Disorder) [Edited 3/8/24 21:29pm]


I don't think it was as deep as all that, although looking at your list here,
there are a few really glaring stand outs that fit amazingly well. nod



That list is a stretch, to say the least. And no, it wasn't that deep at all. It's Princefandom trying to make nothing into something. (Don't get him started on the number 7 or something.)

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #15 posted 03/09/24 11:07pm

rap

TrivialPursuit said:

LILpoundCAKE said:


I don't think it was as deep as all that, although looking at your list here,
there are a few really glaring stand outs that fit amazingly well. nod



That list is a stretch, to say the least. And no, it wasn't that deep at all. It's Princefandom trying to make nothing into something. (Don't get him started on the number 7 or something.)

Or the number 17

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Reply #16 posted 03/10/24 4:24am

RODSERLING

TrivialPursuit said:



LILpoundCAKE said:




RODSERLING said:


Had U seems to be a secret love/hate farewell letter to WB ( could be to his audience too), by referencing his complete discography : Missed U ( For You : Prince wasn't complete before being in the music industry) Called U ( Prince : the success) Found U ( Dirty Mind ) Begged U ( Controversy : Rolling Stones concert) Convinced U 1999 : was an obvious success) Saw U ( Purple Rain : you all saw the movie !) Held U ( Around The World...) Kissed U ( Parade !) Fondled U (SOTT) Tempt U ( Black Album : WB wanted to release it as the new Prince album)) Undress U (Lovesexy, for obvious reasons !) Smelled U ( Batman, a successful album again) Wanted U ( Graffiti Bridge, he wanted to do Purple Rain 2) Asked U (D&P : Prince asked for more money) Thanked U (Lovesymbol : he was nominated vice-président of a WB départment) Minded U (The Hits) Hurt U ( Come, with the name changing) Disappoint U ( Gold and/or Black Album again, the Slave thing) Fuck U ( Emancipation) Had U ( Chaos and Disorder) [Edited 3/8/24 21:29pm]


I don't think it was as deep as all that, although looking at your list here,
there are a few really glaring stand outs that fit amazingly well. nod





That list is a stretch, to say the least. And no, it wasn't that deep at all. It's Princefandom trying to make nothing into something. (Don't get him started on the number 7 or something.)



A stretch, maybe, but somehow it fits perfectly.
Like in the X Files, if you want to find some meaning in the overarching mythology, seasons after seasons.
Numbers also counted for Prince : the duration of the CD in Emancipation, the 77 tracks on 2010....It wasn't an obsession, but sometimes it mattered for him.
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