In the past few weeks I bought a couple pieces of vinyl that may be rare and collectible and wanted to to reach out to the Fam to see what you think:

PRO-A-937 Promo 12" from 1980 with generic Warner Bros sleeve

Side 1: "Gotts Stop (Messin' About)" 2:55 and "Partyup (edit)" 4:23
Side 2: "Head" 4:38 "When You Were Mine" 3:42 "Uptown" 5:28

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W90252T PAISLEY PARK UK 12"

Side 1: "Paisley Park" "She's Always In My Hair"

Side 2 "Paisley Park (Remix)"

The thing is...the B side has TWO TRACKS on it not just the one on the label. it has "She's Alwasysd In My Hair" AGAIN before the Paisley Park remix! Has anyone onever seen one like this? Where they all pressed like this as a prank or is this something rare?

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Sorry for the ugly links but had trouble embedding photos here. Let me know what you think.

The Sleeveographia site lists your Paisley Park 12inch as a misspress.

As for your Gotta Stop record, it should include a promo album review sheet.

Check here http://sleevographia2.fre...ercher.htm

As for the rarity, I've been out of the collecting game for a long time now so I couldn't honestly say.

Maybe someone else will reply.

[Edited 2/21/24 12:10pm]

As I recall, the UK Paisley Park 12" with the 2 tracks on the B side is the mispressing (i.e. it features the additional track not listed on the sleeve) but the rarity is the version which is correctly pressed to match the sleeve description I.e. only one track on the B side).

langebleu said:

As I recall, the UK Paisley Park 12" with the 2 tracks on the B side is the mispressing (i.e. it features the additional track not listed on the sleeve) but the rarity is the version which is correctly pressed to match the sleeve description I.e. only one track on the B side).

Yeah, the one pressed by Damont was the mispress.

SmalleyBiggs said:

In the past few weeks I bought a couple pieces of vinyl that may be rare and collectible and wanted to to reach out to the Fam to see what you think:

PRO-A-937 Promo 12" from 1980 with generic Warner Bros sleeve

Side 1: "Gotts Stop (Messin' About)" 2:55 and "Partyup (edit)" 4:23
Side 2: "Head" 4:38 "When You Were Mine" 3:42 "Uptown" 5:28

W90252T PAISLEY PARK UK 12"

Side 1: "Paisley Park" "She's Always In My Hair"

Side 2 "Paisley Park (Remix)"

The thing is...the B side has TWO TRACKS on it not just the one on the label. it has "She's Alwasysd In My Hair" AGAIN before the Paisley Park remix! Has anyone onever seen one like this? Where they all pressed like this as a prank or is this something rare?

Sorry for the ugly links but had trouble embedding photos here. Let me know what you think.

They're a little hard to find, but not impossible. I've had the "Paisley Park" 12" for a while. I think you may have one too many 2's in there. W9052T is the catalog. Anyway, it's a good find.

I have the "Gotta Stop Messin' About" single, too (here, in my Discogs). And I'm pretty sure I picked that up at a local record shop for probably $3-4.

mb71 said:

The Sleeveographia site lists your Paisley Park 12inch as a misspress.

As for your Gotta Stop record, it should include a promo album review sheet.

Check here http://sleevographia2.fre...ercher.htm

As for the rarity, I've been out of the collecting game for a long time now so I couldn't honestly say.

Maybe someone else will reply.

[Edited 2/21/24 12:10pm]

The Gotta Stop didnt include the sheet- does that decrease it's value?

Maybe it's my browser (Safari) but that link just shows all black...

@TrivialPursuit- yes I mistyped the number it's W 9052 T, as visible in the photo. So is this the one pressed by Damont? I dont see that.

@langebleu so the one that's correct and has only the PP Remix on that side is the valuable one, not this? Interesting

SmalleyBiggs said:

mb71 said:

The Sleeveographia site lists your Paisley Park 12inch as a misspress.

As for your Gotta Stop record, it should include a promo album review sheet.

Check here http://sleevographia2.fre...ercher.htm

As for the rarity, I've been out of the collecting game for a long time now so I couldn't honestly say.

Maybe someone else will reply.

[Edited 2/21/24 12:10pm]

The Gotta Stop didnt include the sheet- does that decrease it's value?

Maybe it's my browser (Safari) but that link just shows all black...

@TrivialPursuit- yes I mistyped the number it's W 9052 T, as visible in the photo. So is this the one pressed by Damont? I dont see that.

@langebleu so the one that's correct and has only the PP Remix on that side is the valuable one, not this? Interesting

AFAIK not ALL copies of the Gotta Stop included the promo sheet. This, or most of their previous owners ditched the sheet before reselling their copies. My copy doesn't include it, and most of the ones I see for sale from time to time either.

As for the Damont pressing of Paisley Park, I guess you can tell apart in the etching of the run out groove. The "correct" version with three tracks is definetely harder to find. The 4-track mispress was mass-produced, so once it was corrected I suppose nobody cared and didn't sell well, so it was recalled.

SmalleyBiggs said:

mb71 said:

The Sleeveographia site lists your Paisley Park 12inch as a misspress.

As for your Gotta Stop record, it should include a promo album review sheet.

Check here http://sleevographia2.fre...ercher.htm

As for the rarity, I've been out of the collecting game for a long time now so I couldn't honestly say.

Maybe someone else will reply.

[Edited 2/21/24 12:10pm]

The Gotta Stop didnt include the sheet- does that decrease it's value?

Maybe it's my browser (Safari) but that link just shows all black...

As mentioned below, records that include the promo sheet seem to be rarer.

On the sleeveographia site, you need to click on the white dots next to the album titles, that will give you a list of versions of the album under that title including singles. Click on those and you will get more info with photos.

FrankieCoco1 said:

TrivialPursuit said: “I have the "Gotta Stop Messin' About" single, too (here, in my Discogs). And I'm pretty sure I picked that up at a local record shop for probably $3-4.” I noticed on the discogs images for that promo, it has Partyup (Edit) 4:23. The album version is 4:24 (so that’s not much of an edit, if it even is, although could it be a different edit to the album version?). There is a Partyup (Edit), with a time of 3:07 on the b-side of the Philippines ‘Dirty Mind’ single. On the promo you have Trivial, please could you check the actual running time of Partyup and whether or not it is the same version as on the album? Furthermore, the version of ‘Dirty Mind’ on that Philippines single has a time of 3:23 shown on the image I could see on discogs (Prince Vault describes it as an ‘Alternate Edit’). The album version is 4:11, whereas the edit on the US 12” and 7” is 3:54. Whenever the Dirty Mind SDE comes out, it’s looking like the b-sides and edits disc is going to be choc full of alternate versions (there’s a mono version of the 3:54 edit of Dirty Mind too on US promo 12” and 7”)! [Edited 2/21/24 14:23pm]

I checked this out myself a while back when I was compiling my database of tracks and although it says edit it is indeed identical to the album version.

mb71 said:

SmalleyBiggs said:

The Gotta Stop didnt include the sheet- does that decrease it's value?

Maybe it's my browser (Safari) but that link just shows all black...

As mentioned below, records that include the promo sheet seem to be rarer.

On the sleeveographia site, you need to click on the white dots next to the album titles, that will give you a list of versions of the album under that title including singles. Click on those and you will get more info with photos.

Thanks to all of you for your expertise!

[Edited 2/22/24 14:35pm]

FrankieCoco1 said:

https://www.discogs.com/r...isley-Park Above I think shows info and current prices for people selling the “correct”, later pressing. Below shows the mid-press: https://www.discogs.com/r...isley-Park Doesn’t look a lot of difference and neither going for mega bucks anyway, so keep hold.

Yeah, a lot of these things aren't nearly as valuable as others think they are. Just like 25 years ago when "ohh, vinyl is worth so much!" era, when in fact it wasn't. While promos et al are fun to have, they're never worth very much. They're not nearly as rare as we all once thought. But, that's a plus for those who may want to collect such things. The road is relatively inexpensive.

TrivialPursuit said:

FrankieCoco1 said:

https://www.discogs.com/r...isley-Park Above I think shows info and current prices for people selling the “correct”, later pressing. Below shows the mid-press: https://www.discogs.com/r...isley-Park Doesn’t look a lot of difference and neither going for mega bucks anyway, so keep hold.

Yeah, a lot of these things aren't nearly as valuable as others think they are. Just like 25 years ago when "ohh, vinyl is worth so much!" era, when in fact it wasn't. While promos et al are fun to have, they're never worth very much. They're not nearly as rare as we all once thought. But, that's a plus for those who may want to collect such things. The road is relatively inexpensive.

Allow me to co-sign and be a tad bitter here: It's peanuts if you own it, it's a holy grail if you are after it. That's my feeling when I'm browsing the usual marketplaces these days.

psyche2 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Yeah, a lot of these things aren't nearly as valuable as others think they are. Just like 25 years ago when "ohh, vinyl is worth so much!" era, when in fact it wasn't. While promos et al are fun to have, they're never worth very much. They're not nearly as rare as we all once thought. But, that's a plus for those who may want to collect such things. The road is relatively inexpensive.

Allow me to co-sign and be a tad bitter here: It's peanuts if you own it, it's a holy grail if you are after it. That's my feeling when I'm browsing the usual marketplaces these days.

Totally agree with that. It's part of low-key wanting to be a completist versus not needing to spend money on every little damn thing that was issues. So much was put out on vinyl back then, whether promos or otherwise. It's almost impossible to not find stuff thanks to eBay, Discogs, etc. I try to really find things that interest me.

I once ended up with two hot pink 12" singles for "Be Your Man," and traded for a "Gold" gold transparent 12" with someone from the Org. I was happy to let one go to get something from the Gold era. But I probably wouldn't have necessarily bought that these days.

Of course tomorrow - I could go another way. hahaha

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