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Thread started 12/11/23 9:22am

lustmealways

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We Can Fuck

Sometimes I can't believe this exists the way it does. Just complete subversion from top to bottom, mental is an understatement. One of the most brilliant things he ever committed to tape.

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Reply #1 posted 12/11/23 9:29am

bigtallwall

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lustmealways said:

Sometimes I can't believe this exists the way it does. Just complete subversion from top to bottom, mental is an understatement. One of the most brilliant things he ever committed to tape.

I wholeheartedly agree. The original 83 version on the Purple Rain Deluxe is so damn brilliant, sexy, funky, and perfect all around. I never get tired of playing it.

“To create something from nothing is one of the greatest feelings, and I would – I don’t know, I wish it upon everybody. It’s heaven.” – Prince
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Reply #2 posted 12/11/23 9:32am

getwild180

Are the vocals in this version copied and pasted to the Graffiti Bridge version?
I tried listen to the two versions back to back with good headphones and they sound exactly the same to me. What do you guys think?
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Reply #3 posted 12/11/23 9:44am

funkbabyandthe
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every version of it is worthwhile.

but the 83/84 version might be the most intense.

theres several songs where he got that crazed (eg. it, lady cab driver), but this one might top them all.

incredible.

the 85/86 version is also great, but it has a more melancholy vibe somehow IIRC. not heard it in a long time.

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Reply #4 posted 12/11/23 12:25pm

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lustmealways said:

Sometimes I can't believe this exists the way it does. Just complete subversion from top to bottom, mental is an understatement. One of the most brilliant things he ever committed to tape.



Agreed. The screams are among his best. The ‘86 isn’t as intense because of that.
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Reply #5 posted 12/11/23 12:41pm

Poplife88

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I remember thinking I would never like the orignal version as much as the 86 one as the 86 is one of my all time faves. Then I heard it on the Purple Rain deluxe and proved myself wrong. Its brilliant. Now I forget the 86 one exists lol

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Reply #6 posted 12/12/23 4:59am

leecaldon

The '86 version is my favourite. Fabulous.

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Reply #7 posted 12/12/23 6:39am

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I loved this song when I first heard it, but over the years I've grown to like it less. The screams are great, but other than that, it doesn't really pull me in. I prefer the music in '86 version.


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Reply #8 posted 12/12/23 7:06am

love2thenines2
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any other versions from the 80's unknown in the Vault reported?

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Reply #9 posted 12/13/23 5:46am

bwaaatch

This early one has grown on me, but '86 is the one I prefer: give me chills.

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Reply #10 posted 12/13/23 8:06am

ExTAFKASoladeo
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According to Duane Prince recorded the original version of WCF over a 24 hour period covering New Years Day from 1983 to 1984. Oh, to be a fly on the wall that night!

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Reply #11 posted 12/14/23 10:53am

nayroo2002

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"...please fuck me again..." eek

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #12 posted 12/15/23 8:49pm

LilJohnjo

The 83’ version absolutely floored me when it was released. Immediately shot up to my favorite prince song. From a musicians perspective………this song makes no sense. Yet it’s definitely one of the best things he ever put to tape, absolutely genius.
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Reply #13 posted 12/16/23 3:35am

The777Man

Amazing song!! Loved it since I first heard it on Purple Rain Deluxe in 2017 and now even more. In my top 5 of all Prince's songs in his entire catalogue.

Th777Man

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Reply #14 posted 12/16/23 6:54am

DotsofU

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The sh*tshow that was that reissue was worth it JUST FOR THIS

Damn, he was in a league of his own, wasn't he?

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Reply #15 posted 12/16/23 8:28am

jamaulredmond

lustmealways said:

Sometimes I can't believe this exists the way it does. Just complete subversion from top to bottom, mental is an understatement. One of the most brilliant things he ever committed to tape.

I couldn't agree more! ALL versions are great But from the the understated, flanged voice and minimal funk in the Miko version to the P-funk version on GB., I can't pick a favorite version.

The screams and ahhh - ahhhs background vocals at the end of the GB version is what makes that one powerful.

The 86 version is simply my favorite version of Prince, The more minimal, funk/electronic compositions he did were the best.

But I can't pick which I like best.

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Reply #16 posted 12/16/23 6:41pm

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getwild180 said:

Are the vocals in this version copied and pasted to the Graffiti Bridge version? I tried listen to the two versions back to back with good headphones and they sound exactly the same to me. What do you guys think?

Yeah, I am pretty sure the '83 original version was the template for the Graffiti Brdige version and it was made using the multitracks for that version in conjunction with some new instrumentation and Geroge Clinton and company's parts added to it

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Reply #17 posted 12/17/23 1:57am

johnpiex

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lustmealways said:

Sometimes I can't believe this exists the way it does. Just complete subversion from top to bottom, mental is an understatement. One of the most brilliant things he ever committed to tape.

Agreed. The screams are among his best. The ‘86 isn’t as intense because of that.


I think the slower tempo on the '86 version makes it feel less urgent as well. It's more of a sly, sluggish funk.

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Reply #18 posted 12/22/23 7:09pm

SquirrelMeat

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This is an absolute career highlight to me. You can litterally hear the transition of artist development from 1999 to Purple Rain in one song, whist also hearing the birth of Around the World in A Day.

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Reply #19 posted 12/28/23 7:14am

Se7en

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The stuff that Prince was coming up with during the 1999 and Purple Rain eras, mindblowing.

Almost "stream of consciousness" style of recording, and when it worked, it really worked!

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Reply #20 posted 12/28/23 7:25am

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'86 version is so much better. Prince fans really overrate the vocal quirks. The version where he humps the mic verbally tends to be the fan fav.

To me it's like uhhh is "We Can Fuck" really that different from Graffiti Bridge "We Can Funk"? Either way I prefer the nite-funk of '86 so whatev...

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Reply #21 posted 12/28/23 8:31am

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WhisperingDandelions said:

'86 version is so much better. Prince fans really overrate the vocal quirks. The version where he humps the mic verbally tends to be the fan fav.

To me it's like uhhh is "We Can Fuck" really that different from Graffiti Bridge "We Can Funk"? Either way I prefer the nite-funk of '86 so whatev...

You mean the 'Expanded Revolution' version where Prince calls out Miko to do a solo and then it fades out?

Yeah! Top notch!

Um, i mean, no, actually.

The freaky, original, all-Prince version is what makes somebody a Prince fan.

Why don't U want 2 B 1?

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #22 posted 12/31/23 3:53pm

WhisperingDand
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nayroo2002 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

'86 version is so much better. Prince fans really overrate the vocal quirks. The version where he humps the mic verbally tends to be the fan fav.

To me it's like uhhh is "We Can Fuck" really that different from Graffiti Bridge "We Can Funk"? Either way I prefer the nite-funk of '86 so whatev...

You mean the 'Expanded Revolution' version where Prince calls out Miko to do a solo and then it fades out?

Yeah! Top notch!

Um, i mean, no, actually.

The freaky, original, all-Prince version is what makes somebody a Prince fan.

Why don't U want 2 B 1?

Again, it's the same beat as the George Clinton version...?

A lot of fans go out of their way to actively avoid material he wrote but didn't sing on. I would argue the fans affinity for spazzy vocal tic Prince further pervades them down this mire.

Prince's vocals are okay. I put him 2.5 notches above prime Apollonia at best. It's definitely the least dominant of his multi-faceted abilities. His vocals are highly overrated, but fans do that with all artists. Even Smashing Pumpkins fans maintain they'd return to their prime if Billy "The Nasal Experience" Corgan mixed his vocals like he did in '93. It is what it is.

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Reply #23 posted 01/01/24 6:00am

funkbabyandthe
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Uh what?
His voice is his personality.
Its the first thing most ppl think of when they think of prince
Ie if youre a fan, i assume you like his voice. Id be curious how many fans dont care for his voice.
The voice is actually a lot to do with why many prince songs arent as good when others cover his songs
But 2.5 notches above appolonia? Have you heard the beautiful ones?!
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Reply #24 posted 01/09/24 4:25am

leecaldon

WhisperingDandelions said:

nayroo2002 said:

You mean the 'Expanded Revolution' version where Prince calls out Miko to do a solo and then it fades out?

Yeah! Top notch!

Um, i mean, no, actually.

The freaky, original, all-Prince version is what makes somebody a Prince fan.

Why don't U want 2 B 1?

Again, it's the same beat as the George Clinton version...?

A lot of fans go out of their way to actively avoid material he wrote but didn't sing on. I would argue the fans affinity for spazzy vocal tic Prince further pervades them down this mire.

Prince's vocals are okay. I put him 2.5 notches above prime Apollonia at best. It's definitely the least dominant of his multi-faceted abilities. His vocals are highly overrated, but fans do that with all artists. Even Smashing Pumpkins fans maintain they'd return to their prime if Billy "The Nasal Experience" Corgan mixed his vocals like he did in '93. It is what it is.

That's a pretty contrarian thing to say about such an accomplished vocalist, both in the studio and on stage.

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