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Thread started 11/27/23 5:30pm

MendesCity

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Is that it for this official D&P podcast?

Only 4 eps, with a rather abrubt ending. Was fun while it lasted, but feels like even they had trouble getting excited about this release.

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Reply #1 posted 11/27/23 10:18pm

Vannormal

I said it before, The Estate had this rolling like a rock from a steep hill.

Basically very little promotion.

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My humble take :

To me, these podcasts didn't have much to ad to the whole D&P story.

We heard little to no interesting stories from engineers.

Who often have so much more to say, like S. Rogers, or any other previous engineers.

Did we hear David Firedlander, Tom Garnau, Ray Hahnfeldt, femi Jiya, Coke Jonhson, Michael Koppelman, Steve Noonan, Peggy McCreary, Tom Tucker, David Z?

At least some of them, or even most were involved in the process of recordings since 1990.

Or am I wrong, and missed something.

Did we hear Alan Leeds? No. He was manager of PP till 1993.

No David Gilbertson, No Tommy Lipuma, who was involved as a producer in 1991, for which project i don't know. But he was there.

No Billy Sparks, who was his tour manager.

I even wanted to hear Prince's tech-instruments engineers.

Sure they had something more intersting to say.

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This whole project seems to me like a Prince Solo slim try-out, and a serious cry for new market position with new musicians.

He used/hired the NPG just to spice-up his not so new ideas like NJS, rap.

I stay with the fact they had little valuable input tbh.

As if they were simply used as session musicians.

And even more banal, as if Prince wanted to purchase new musicians buddies, imo of course.

For me "gone are the warm slowly build up relationship with fellow musicians."

They came in, played flawless music, that's it.

So Prince discover musicians making no mistakes, doing whatever he wanted.

Sort of yes-men and hangers-on.

Yeah they jammed together, but from the stories we heard there just wasn't much happening.

[Edited 11/29/23 6:14am]

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #2 posted 12/02/23 12:28am

funkbabyandthe
babysitters

It did seem a bit quick.
I needed more on work that fat.
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Reply #3 posted 12/02/23 12:11pm

paisleyparkgir
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It was way too short.

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Reply #4 posted 12/02/23 10:13pm

Vannormal

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

It did seem a bit quick. I needed more on work that fat. cool

Oh yessssss.

And there should've been more on the live material too.

Like I said, and its my opinion of course, The NPG were just great skilled session musicians,

but just didn't have all that much to say.

They were musician Prince fans, that maybe here and there inspired Prince for a thing or two, three...

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #5 posted 12/03/23 9:39pm

TheTruth123

Vannormal said:

I said it before, The Estate had this rolling like a rock from a steep hill.

Basically very little promotion.

-

My humble take :

To me, these podcasts didn't have much to ad to the whole D&P story.

We heard little to no interesting stories from engineers.

Who often have so much more to say, like S. Rogers, or any other previous engineers.

Did we hear David Firedlander, Tom Garnau, Ray Hahnfeldt, femi Jiya, Coke Jonhson, Michael Koppelman, Steve Noonan, Peggy McCreary, Tom Tucker, David Z?

At least some of them, or even most were involved in the process of recordings since 1990.

Or am I wrong, and missed something.

Did we hear Alan Leeds? No. He was manager of PP till 1993.

No David Gilbertson, No Tommy Lipuma, who was involved as a producer in 1991, for which project i don't know. But he was there.

No Billy Sparks, who was his tour manager.

I even wanted to hear Prince's tech-instruments engineers.

Sure they had something more intersting to say.

-

This whole project seems to me like a Prince Solo slim try-out, and a serious cry for new market position with new musicians.

He used/hired the NPG just to spice-up his not so new ideas like NJS, rap.

I stay with the fact they had little valuable input tbh.

As if they were simply used as session musicians.

And even more banal, as if Prince wanted to purchase new musicians buddies, imo of course.

For me "gone are the warm slowly build up relationship with fellow musicians."

They came in, played flawless music, that's it.

So Prince discover musicians making no mistakes, doing whatever he wanted.

Sort of yes-men and hangers-on.

Yeah they jammed together, but from the stories we heard there just wasn't much happening.

[Edited 11/29/23 6:14am]

Some of these ppl have recently (like Pearl from D&P) and Alan Leeds (in about a week on Truth in Rythm) are having sole interviews on other podcasts.

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Reply #6 posted 12/03/23 10:46pm

funkbabyandthe
babysitters

Both of these

As if they were simply used as session musicians.

And even more banal, as if Prince wanted to purchase new musicians buddies, imo of course


Yep

The podcasts were a bit too npg-centric.

The find of carrie was great.

But they really missed input from outside the band. A missed opportunity.
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Reply #7 posted 12/03/23 11:33pm

Vannormal

TheTruth123 said:

Vannormal said:

I said it before, The Estate had this rolling like a rock from a steep hill.

Basically very little promotion.

(...)

Some of these ppl have recently (like Pearl from D&P) and Alan Leeds (in about a week on Truth in Rythm) are having sole interviews on other podcasts.

Can you send a link?I can't seem to find that Robia LaMorte (Pearl) interview;

Thank you. smile

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For those who haven't heard the older ones with Alan Leeds:

Alan Leeds interview, in ...In Rhythm.

from three years ago.

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And honestly, that's not real promotion, it's only for the fans.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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