Great to hear Londell's got shit well organsied out there: https://youtu.be/niJhp9mv...fxvQCurXkP

I simply do not understand why, as the majority stakeholder, Primary Wave, is not making noises. I have no time for McMillan or that other wanker Spicer.

You think it was as professional when Prince was still there?

Guy got drunk, so what, someone else got drunk too and fell, so what...

rap said:

Great to hear Londell's got shit well organsied out there: https://youtu.be/niJhp9mv...fxvQCurXkPuno online

That's why Prince never wanted drinking at his house,what a shame

Thank you for posting this link Rap

Been asking that for years. It's obvious whoever is running things, or interferring in things was probably a Michael Jackson fan. They have no idea what to do, what to release, how to release things in 2023, they are stuck in 2004. Maddnening when you know what's out there and what should be in the vault vs. what they have released thus far. D&P SDE, really?... before a Symbol SDE, Parade SDE, or whatever was done for the next 3rdEyeGirl (e.g. The Sweeter She Is) album, Black Is The New Black, a live compilation SDE for Christ's sakes!

claudemorton said:

Been asking that for years. It's obvious whoever is running things, or interferring in things was probably a Michael Jackson fan. They have no idea what to do, what to release, how to release things in 2023, they are stuck in 2004. Maddnening when you know what's out there and what should be in the vault vs. what they have released thus far. D&P SDE, really?... before a Symbol SDE, Parade SDE, or whatever was done for the next 3rdEyeGirl (e.g. The Sweeter She Is) album, Black Is The New Black, a live compilation SDE for Christ's sakes!

Exactly. You would only prioriotize D&P if you were an MJ stan looking to reclaim your 90s teenybopper roots.

no, D&P was chosen as they are thinking commercially.

they are looking at his best sellers.

i just hope that one day, all the 70s and 80s albums get the same treatment.

if dirty mind for instance doesnt get a proper, thorough deluxe release, it would make me angry.

but they will only release one big SDE a year if you think about how much work must go into compiling, mixing, mastering, then designing, etc etc. i cant imagine them speeding it up.

few people apart from die hards really care about black is the new black or more 3EG music (i mean, really, cmon).

davidjames said:

rap said:

Great to hear Londell's got shit well organsied out there: https://youtu.be/niJhp9mv...fxvQCurXkPuno online

That's why Prince never wanted drinking at his house,what a shame

... and yet Prince got rushed to the hospital at least twice for overdosing on red wine and pills according to Mayte. Plus he was known to be sipping Port through a straw in his cup.

Since when has this woman been a reliable source?

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

no, D&P was chosen as they are thinking commercially.

they are looking at his best sellers.

right, erm, again:

"Best sellers" based on sales figures from over 30 years ago. Wtf would that be applicable to now?

Those sales figures were based on the teenyboppers of 1991 wanting the radio pop hit of the moment. It's some lofty pipe dreams to believe the same people who bought D&P for one or two pop hits in 1991 would return some 30+ years later to spend about 20x what they spent for the original album on a Super Deluxe boutique expanded edition.

It would be "logical" if this were, say, an SDE for Right Said Fred or perhaps Rick Astley.

WhisperingDandelions said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

no, D&P was chosen as they are thinking commercially.

they are looking at his best sellers.

right, erm, again:

"Best sellers" based on sales figures from over 30 years ago. Wtf would that be applicable to now?

Those sales figures were based on the teenyboppers of 1991 wanting the radio pop hit of the moment. It's some lofty pipe dreams to believe the same people who bought D&P for one or two pop hits in 1991 would return some 30+ years later to spend about 20x what they spent for the original album on a Super Deluxe boutique expanded edition.

It would be "logical" if this were, say, an SDE for Right Said Fred or perhaps Rick Astley.

This 100%, those who would fork over a few hundred for a D&P SDE, are 100% not the same folks who casually bought the album back in the early 90s becasue they loved Cream, D&P, or Gett Off.

WhisperingDandelions said:

This is exactly why Prince left no will.

Who is this woman and how do we know anything she says means shit?

That aside, Londell is a vampire and a leech. He doesn't give a shit about Prince's legacy. He and Spicer care about forever being attached to make money. 🖕🏻

TrivialPursuit said:

Who is this woman and how do we know anything she says means shit?

That aside, Londell is a vampire and a leech. He doesn't give a shit about Prince's legacy. He and Spicer care about forever being attached to make money. 🖕🏻

I've no idea. Just came across her on YouTube. She could be full of shit, or not. Perhaps someone here who has been to Paisley Park many times and/or lives in the area can shed some more light.

claudemorton said:

rap said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Who is this woman and how do we know anything she says means shit?

I've no idea. Just came across her on YouTube. She could be full of shit, or not. Perhaps someone here who has been to Paisley Park many times and/or lives in the area can shed some more light.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

right, erm, again:

"Best sellers" based on sales figures from over 30 years ago. Wtf would that be applicable to now?

Those sales figures were based on the teenyboppers of 1991 wanting the radio pop hit of the moment. It's some lofty pipe dreams to believe the same people who bought D&P for one or two pop hits in 1991 would return some 30+ years later to spend about 20x what they spent for the original album on a Super Deluxe boutique expanded edition.

It would be "logical" if this were, say, an SDE for Right Said Fred or perhaps Rick Astley.

Youre not wrong But thats obv what they are looking at! Its not what id release but its still a significant release in his catalogue. I find 85% of the vault songs academically interesting but not really what id listen to much. Its cool for background on this period but is there much better than the proper album? Id say no.

I'd say yes.

Every track he "gave away" during this era is superior to the material on D&P the album. Especially if we're going by the era / release proximity and not whatever they sifted out for inclusion on the box.

All superior material than D&P from the same recording dates:
1990- - The Big Pump
1990- - MPLS
1990-03-27 - Exploding All Over Europe
1990-06-xx - My Tender Heart
1990-06-xx - Hold Me
1990-11-xx - Get Blue
1990-11-xx - Well Done
1990-11-xx - And How
1990-12r91 - Skip 2 U My Darling
1990-12r91 - Open Book
1990-12-xx - Love... Thy Will Be Done
1990-12r91 - Martika's Kitchen
1990-12r91 - Don''t Say U Love Me
1990-12r91 - Spirit
1991-xx-xx - Take Me to Your Leader
1991-03-xx - Dance unto the Rhythm
1991-03-xx - Elephant Box
1991-03-xx - Slappy Dappy
1991-03-xx - Whispering Dandelions
1991-03-xx - Jadestone
1991-04-25 - I Hear Your Voice
1991-04-xx - Tip O My Tongue
1990-rly91 - Girl O My Dreams
1991-05-25 - The Voice
1991-06-xx - Hit U in the Socket
1991-07-10 - The Juice
1991-smfal - Standing at the Altar
1991-lt-92 - 5 Women [re-recording]

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[Edited 11/18/23 5:00am]

TrivialPursuit said:

rap said:

I've no idea. Just came across her on YouTube. She could be full of shit, or not. Perhaps someone here who has been to Paisley Park many times and/or lives in the area can shed some more light.

I have no idea what that means.

WhisperingDandelions said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

I'd say yes.

Every track he "gave away" during this era is superior to the material on D&P the album. Especially if we're going by the era / release proximity and not whatever they sifted out for inclusion on the box.

If you really think spirit is better than the best d+p album songs, then i worry about your hate for the album. Spirit better than cream? Gett off? D+p? Wow. *face palm*

Fully agree. Spirit is such a throwaway airh ead of a song, actually it would fit perfectly in that non-fun Grafitti Bridge context with Aura on a cloud scene or something like that.

Even recorded in a totally differend sound, beat or stripped down piano version, it stays way too light, at least for me. The melody has little to offer, and the chorus even less.

rap said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I have no idea what that means.

It means - let's see this heifer's credentials. Prove who she is, or is she just talking out of her ass pretending like she's knows something.

TrivialPursuit said:

rap said:

I have no idea what that means.

It means - let's see this heifer's credentials. Prove who she is, or is she just talking out of her ass pretending like she's knows something.

I see. Well to be fair, that could pertain to a lot of people here.

Chastity said:

laytonian said:

Chastity said:

... and yet Prince got rushed to the hospital at least twice for overdosing on red wine and pills according to Mayte. Plus he was known to be sipping Port through a straw in his cup.

What is your point? He drank red wine through a straw so his whitened teeth wouldn't be stained.

He had lipgloss or whateva makeup on his lips so thats why he was also using a straw

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

I'd say yes.

Every track he "gave away" during this era is superior to the material on D&P the album. Especially if we're going by the era / release proximity and not whatever they sifted out for inclusion on the box.

All superior material than D&P from the same recording dates:
1990- - The Big Pump
1990- - MPLS
1990-03-27 - Exploding All Over Europe
1990-06-xx - My Tender Heart
1990-06-xx - Hold Me
1990-11-xx - Get Blue
1990-11-xx - Well Done
1990-11-xx - And How
1990-12r91 - Skip 2 U My Darling
1990-12r91 - Open Book
1990-12-xx - Love... Thy Will Be Done
1990-12r91 - Martika's Kitchen
1990-12r91 - Don''t Say U Love Me
1990-12r91 - Spirit
1991-xx-xx - Take Me to Your Leader
1991-03-xx - Dance unto the Rhythm
1991-03-xx - Elephant Box
1991-03-xx - Slappy Dappy
1991-03-xx - Whispering Dandelions
1991-03-xx - Jadestone
1991-04-25 - I Hear Your Voice
1991-04-xx - Tip O My Tongue
1990-rly91 - Girl O My Dreams
1991-05-25 - The Voice
1991-06-xx - Hit U in the Socket
1991-07-10 - The Juice
1991-smfal - Standing at the Altar
1991-lt-92 - 5 Women [re-recording]

[Edited 11/18/23 5:00am]

[Edited 11/18/23 5:00am]

If you really think spirit is better than the best d+p album songs, then i worry about your hate for the album. Spirit better than cream? Gett off? D+p? Wow. *face palm*

"Diamonds and Pearls" is probably the worst, cheesiest, cringiest, most preening autopilot single of his entire career. That's the #2 song you come up with? Over "Insatiable" or "Money Don't Matter 2Night"?

Anyway I said "superior to the material," not "superior to the best material". The best of this list is definitely better than the best of D&P, however. "Love... thy WIll Be Done", "I Hear Your Voice", "My Tender Heart" alone...

laytonian said:

Chastity said:

... and yet Prince got rushed to the hospital at least twice for overdosing on red wine and pills according to Mayte. Plus he was known to be sipping Port through a straw in his cup.

What is your point? He drank red wine through a straw so his whitened teeth wouldn't be stained.

Did he/Prince tell you this?