A lot of the vault stuff is uninteresting and always has been more or less uninteresting, but it all (and everything else) should have been released.

I think that the interest will creep up over time as people discover it on the music streaming services.

Because it SHOULD have been either Parade, Dirty Mind or Around The World In A Day SDE!!!

I purchased the D&P SDE and I enjoy it for the most part,but I gotta admit...I'm already anxious to move on to the next SDE Let's do something special with Dirty Mind and Controversy!!

The artistic merits of D&P, or lack thereof, might have something to do with that perceived lack of interest.

Another thing is that in 2023, we have so many ways to entertain ourselves, so many music (old and new) to listen to, billions of videos to watch, etc. It's very hard to judge (i.e. quantify) the interest in something, as the amount of attention we can spend on anything has been so diluted. I'm not saying this is a bad thing. I'm just saying that it might be a little difficult to compare the interest in a release in 2023 to the interest in a release in 1987 or 1991. Looking at "the media" or "the charts" is interesting, but is it really a good way to measure that interest? Maybe. I don't know.

Some comments here are correct. If we're talking not only about the interest from the media, but also about the interest from the listeners in general, then we should see how well it does in the long run (e.g. number of streams in 1 year, 5 years, etc.).

SoulAlive says she/he's ready to move on to the next SDE and in a sense I think we all are. That 3-year gap between SOTT SDE and D&P SDE was almost unbearable. We're ready for more music, more often. That impatience could be perceived as a lack of interest, but I'm not sure it is.

I've already listened to the vault tracks and the Glam Slam 1992 show many times. How much more excited/interested can I be? I'm 45. I'm not a 13-year-old anymore.

[Edited 11/30/23 5:02am]

olb99 said:

SoulAlive says he's ready to move on to the next SDE and in a sense I think we all are. That 3-year gap between SOTT SDE and D&P SDE was almost unbearable. We're ready for more music, more often. That impatience could be perceived as a lack of interest, but I'm not sure it is.

[Edited 11/30/23 0:31am]

Exactly this.

If they play it smart, there should be a next one by spring 2024.

And inbetween a one off single or maxi or at least a few downloads.

RJOrion said:

rockford said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Id say the energy around this release went down fast, not because d+p hasnt held up,

lol yeah, keep tellin' yourself that homie.

this part is outrageous, however:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

It also tells me the vault highlights from this point on will likely not be as bountiful as from the 80s records. [Edited 11/26/23 13:46pm]

please.

Just because you can't accept that his worst era produced his worst outtakes (originals notwithstanding, because those were released) doesn't mean The Vault is going to be disappointing from 1991 onward.

That's the part that irritates me the most about stupid estate putting out his stupid "#2" seller with no enduring relevency past 1991. The estate took all them "get stoopid" chants quite literally, apparently.

This shit was nobody's dream or most-wanted SDE, I don't care what you "eh actually it's his most 'cohesive' of the 90s" crowd of you say with your participation trophy semantics.

Now D&P's mildew is spreading to perceptions of The Vault like a bad banana. Not on my watch. The era sucks the outtakes suck, there's the formula.

Still when I listen to the Doldy-Atmos-Mix of the album, i'm happy to have this.

And my love for D&P is not growing by it unfortunately.

Just this different approach is a welcome suprise.

And indeed i listed a couple of times to the unreleased tracks, and I am already tired of them.

Very mediocre quality.

Just because you can't accept that his worst era produced his worst outtakes (originals notwithstanding, because those were released) doesn't mean The Vault is going to be disappointing from 1991 onward.

That's the part that irritates me the most about stupid estate putting out his stupid "#2" seller with no enduring relevency past 1991. The estate took all them "get stoopid" chants quite literally, apparently.

This shit was nobody's dream or most-wanted SDE, I don't care what you "eh actually it's his most 'cohesive' of the 90s" crowd of you say with your participation trophy semantics.

Now D&P's mildew is spreading to perceptions of The Vault like a bad banana. Not on my watch. The era sucks the outtakes suck, there's the formula.

so you are saying that the 90s outtakes are going to be as great or as many as those we have had so far from SOTT, PR and 1999?

ok!

im sure there will be many surprises, as many of the outtakes on this recent set i did not know, but im going to suggest that from this point on, while there will be ofc some gems, it will be a case of the already released stuff being quite a bit above the unreleased stuff. whereas before, while the released stuff was def better, the gems were closer in quality to what had been released officially.

you cant just discard the songs he gave to other artists to prove your idea that the outtakes suck. those are still vault tracks, regardlss of whether someone else already recorded them. his versions were unreleased until now. so yes, they do count, sorry to say.

they just did it to highlight his non 80s releases i think. they needed to do a big release for a big album not from the 80s. same as how they released things like the piano and a mic album, welcome 2 america etc. either way, they really need to do a sde for each of the first 10-12 albums though. that should come first.

MIRvmn1 said:

RODSERLING said:

I bought this SDE day one,but I only listened to the first 2 cds and the b-sides, by lack of time, and I suspect it, also by lack of interest. I found the remixes interesting and really fun, I mean, I would have loved to live that era to collect the singles and maxi-singles. I think the fans were treated well, compared to other artists. The problem still is that, there are some of them missing ( Clocking the Jizz for instance) I was not impressed by the 2 vault discs, to say the least. It s at best fun, but nothing impressive and worthy of making the album tracklist. While I was blown away by the 3 previous SDEs. I only watched the Olympics rehearsals and performance, that was great. I want more like this. I keep the third vault disc away from listening yet, because I suspect we will have to wait another couple of years before another ( truncated) project comes out. [Edited 11/30/23 2:00am]

Like i said in a few other threads, my sde is still gathering dust, only to be layered by the lastly released "Gett Off" promo 12" reproduction.

All of this is still on YouTube, so why should i even open it?

MIRvmn1 said:

I think the best way to avoid getting disappointed is to not have any high expectations and accept the fact that Prince actually (for the most part)did release the best songs on his albums. Chances are that there won't be many masterpieces or mind blowing songs among the vault tracks in future releases. I was not impressed with lots of vault songs on the 1999 SDE but the SOTT release was great for example. [Edited 12/1/23 12:15pm]

With all respect, but I still do not agree with this.

Look at the outtakes of what we already have from the previous SDE...

There are gems on there that go beyong our expectations.

Thing is we already heard most of these unofficically unreleased songs for decades in lesser quality.

Don't mix up the never heard before unreleased songs with the ones we know for decades.

Imaging hearing In A Large Room With No Light for the very first time!

or Bold Generation, or, And That Says What, or, Vagina, or, Crystal Ball,

or, If It'll Make You Happy (an underated song I added to my own ''Dirty Mind'' compiled album) or, Love And Sex, or The Cocao Boys, etc

WhisperingDandelions said:

MattyJam said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:

woogiebear said:

Because it SHOULD have been either Parade, Dirty Mind or Around The World In A Day SDE!!!

Hush, what's done is done and some of us were very pleased with this set.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

you cant just discard the songs he gave to other artists to prove your idea that the outtakes suck. those are still vault tracks, regardlss of whether someone else already recorded them. his versions were unreleased until now. so yes, they do count, sorry to say.

His "versions" (really, rough scratch demo guide vocal work-in-progress takes) may be "unreleased" and "from The Vault" but the songs themselves were released (in versions he actually finished himself, e.g. the strings in "My Tender Heart" in the demo vs. the final Rosie Gaines versions).

Just because some of you go out of your way to avoid songs he didn't sing on from an artist you supposedly care about doesn't mean they're newly discovered from the floor of The Vault.

His "versions" of the Originals are like the alternate versions of "Diamonds and Pearls" or "Cream" they included. Just fun alternates.

[Edited 12/3/23 16:31pm]

WhisperingDandelions said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Id say the energy around this release went down fast, not because d+p hasnt held up,

lol yeah, keep tellin' yourself that homie.

this part is outrageous, however:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

It also tells me the vault highlights from this point on will likely not be as bountiful as from the 80s records. [Edited 11/26/23 13:46pm]

please.

Just because you can't accept that his worst era produced his worst outtakes (originals notwithstanding, because those were released) doesn't mean The Vault is going to be disappointing from 1991 onward.

That's the part that irritates me the most about stupid estate putting out his stupid "#2" seller with no enduring relevency past 1991. The estate took all them "get stoopid" chants quite literally, apparently.

This shit was nobody's dream or most-wanted SDE, I don't care what you "eh actually it's his most 'cohesive' of the 90s" crowd of you say with your participation trophy semantics.

Now D&P's mildew is spreading to perceptions of The Vault like a bad banana. Not on my watch. The era sucks the outtakes suck, there's the formula.

I love your hate for D&P. It almost rivals mine. Total dogshit album, a fluke commercial success showing that right time and place is much more important than artistic merit when it comes to selling a truckload of records.

[Edited 12/4/23 3:12am]

you can hate it. but to call it a fluke hit is wrong. it was DESIGNED to be a hit. thats why he put so much work into the songs, which is obvious to anyone, if you compare it to the songs on the symbol album just a year later. now if it flopped, it would be an album designed to be a hit that FAILED, but he knew what he was doing and going for. same attitude he had when making PR.

WhisperingDandelions said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

you cant just discard the songs he gave to other artists to prove your idea that the outtakes suck. those are still vault tracks, regardlss of whether someone else already recorded them. his versions were unreleased until now. so yes, they do count, sorry to say.

His "versions" (really, rough scratch demo guide vocal work-in-progress takes) may be "unreleased" and "from The Vault" but the songs themselves were released (in versions he actually finished himself, e.g. the strings in "My Tender Heart" in the demo vs. the final Rosie Gaines versions).

Just because some of you go out of your way to avoid songs he didn't sing on from an artist you supposedly care about doesn't mean they're newly discovered from the floor of The Vault.

His "versions" of the Originals are like the alternate versions of "Diamonds and Pearls" or "Cream" they included. Just fun alternates.

[Edited 12/3/23 16:31pm]

dude who cares if they were released.

HIS versions werent.

it is a diff experience listening to his versions cos yknow, HE IS SINGING THEM!

i mean, its such an obvious point i am not sure why it needs explaining.

HIS VERSIONS ARE THE ORIGINALS WHICH WERE NOT RELEASED BEFORE. SOME PPL LIKE TO HEAR PRINCE SINGING PRINCE SONGS RATHER THAN A DIFFERENT VOCALIST.

hope that makes sense.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

you can hate it. but to call it a fluke hit is wrong. it was DESIGNED to be a hit. thats why he put so much work into the songs, which is obvious to anyone, if you compare it to the songs on the symbol album just a year later. now if it flopped, it would be an album designed to be a hit that FAILED, but he knew what he was doing and going for. same attitude he had when making PR.

Just beause it was designed to be a hit and succeeded in being one, doesn't change the fact that the songs themselves are mostly uninspired and have aged like warm milk.

It caught on because Prince enlisted ex-MJs manager and played the game. Total dreck is designed to be a hit all the time and with the right industry backing you can get literal audible sewage to top the charts.