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Reply #30 posted 10/26/23 12:34am

funkbabyandthe
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PR will never die.

itll always be there, hanging over everything else he did.

and thats not a bad thing.

its got some of his greatest songs.

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Reply #31 posted 10/26/23 7:46am

happyshopper

I’m looking forward to what’s included.
A new concert video would be great, and obviously the proper vault tracks. But also the film remastered and re-released… maybe to cinemas!?
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Reply #32 posted 10/26/23 8:52am

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Really hope we get some good footage for this.. I feel like 83 First Avenue, PR Tour Show (not Syracuse), and the 84 Birthday Show, would really help encapsulate the era. Having all 3 available would be incredible.
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Reply #33 posted 10/26/23 11:34am

bozojones

There's a lot of cool shit we didn't get on the cash-grab PR Deluxe back in 2017 and I'm excited for it to get an official release. The question is whether or not the current estate is competent enough to include all of it in the best quality possible without any botched mono mixdowns or glaring errors.

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Reply #34 posted 10/28/23 12:50am

andrewm7new

WhiteSandsHideaway11 said:

Really hope we get some good footage for this.. I feel like 83 First Avenue, PR Tour Show (not Syracuse), and the 84 Birthday Show, would really help encapsulate the era. Having all 3 available would be incredible.

^ I agree, I would also like one of the early Detroit shows on video and also some of the rehearsals/soundchecks.

Come to think of it, we should dream big! How about all the rehearsals and soundchecks. razz

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Reply #35 posted 10/29/23 6:21am

SolaceAHA

1984 to me was the best music years that I had lived through, I was just hitting my teenage years and it was the perfect storm of all these great diverse artists coming through with amazing records, and with MTV having taken off you had videos all over, at this point for me I didnt have cable yet, so it was Friday Night Videos and New York Hot tracks giving me the best of the best and many times giving me new things. Now on the PRINCE Purple Rain front I think they'd be foolish not to be diving head first into this, I think NOW would be the time to start the process on this and I feel you have to get it out mid year 2024, Purple Rain for me was always a spring/summer thing and I think you have to go all out this time, because I can tell you FOR SURE other artists who had huge 1984 albums and works, they are already doing this, so the estate should be thinking of this because quite frankly its a win win situation no matter how you slice it. YES Purple Rain was issued again, but like mentioned it was rushed to get something into stores and what else was there that people by in large KNEW than Purple Rain, this is was also why that hits package came so quickly after his death, it was viewed as cashing in but these are companies what do you expect them to do? lose money? But I feel like some others do, that the biggest misses are within the proteges of that time, 1984 was Prince's and many others year, but things he produced have been forgotten and never repackaged remixed whatever you call it they just have fallen off the map. YOU easily could get things out like an Apollonia 6 with things never used or mixes, extended 12" or the Time, Shelia E I mean this can all be worked out somehow its just for me a last chance effort if you want to do it, and would be a HUGE miss to YES make money to keep the light on Prince's legacy not just from die hard fans but mainstream wise before others totally take up the light on their anniversaries, because they are working on them already.

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Reply #36 posted 10/29/23 12:25pm

laytonian

People, paragraphs are not your enemy.

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #37 posted 10/29/23 8:37pm

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strawberryletter23 said:

playtime92 said:

The Purple Rain Deluxe was rushed out, poorly mastered and severely lacking in scope. Doing another one isn't just a cash grab, they haven't done that era justice yet. Prince was at his peak in the mid-80s, so the Parade material and the rest of the Purple Rain stuff is still what I'm most interested in. No complaints from me if they get this right

But omg they already did a deluxe edition in 2017, that means revisiting Prince's most popular album with proper Vault material and a decent remastering over a half a decade later is immoral and wrong wink

[Edited 10/26/23 0:19am]

Easy wih the dramatics.

It's neither immoral or wrong, and I recognize the majority of you will likely greet every repeat SDE of 'Purple Rain' with open arms.

It's still lame. For me as a fan who would like to see one of his other 40 albums get some shine once in awhile. I'm very happy for the rest of you getting the priviledge of shelling out your hard-earned cash for the triple-dip.

It's delusional to believe they're not going to intentionally omit Vault material yet again, however.

And it's straight-up ridiculous to keep bringing up the abominable 2017 remaster like this is the utmost pressing concern to fix. The original CD is great. You can't just put that on instead? These remasters are ponderous. Aaalllll this just to improve your shuffle mixes on Spotify? The 80s material isn't the problem, the 90s/00s material being brickwalled is the problem, you should all rally together to get that stuff remastered to be closer to the levels on the 80s CDs instead, not the other way around.

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Reply #38 posted 10/30/23 2:51am

andrewm7new

There might be plenty of scope in adding deleted scenes that were filmed to the movie. I dont know what there is out there, but I do know that there are quite a few scenes that I would like to see that were not even in the workprint.

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Reply #39 posted 10/30/23 11:26am

SoulAlive

happyshopper said:

the film remastered and re-released… maybe to cinemas!?

I like this idea.Put the movie back in theatres.Celebrate this era in a BIG way!

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Reply #40 posted 10/30/23 11:31am

SoulAlive

andrewm7new said:

There might be plenty of scope in adding deleted scenes that were filmed to the movie. I dont know what there is out there, but I do know that there are quite a few scenes that I would like to see that were not even in the workprint.

Petition · Warner Brothe...Change.org biggrin

some fan started a petition to get those scemes released,lol

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Reply #41 posted 10/30/23 1:53pm

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Is the 'barn scene' where the Game Boys do their full dance routine to "Take Me With U"?

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #42 posted 10/30/23 6:53pm

strongoxman1

WhisperingDandelions said:



strawberryletter23 said:




playtime92 said:


The Purple Rain Deluxe was rushed out, poorly mastered and severely lacking in scope. Doing another one isn't just a cash grab, they haven't done that era justice yet. Prince was at his peak in the mid-80s, so the Parade material and the rest of the Purple Rain stuff is still what I'm most interested in. No complaints from me if they get this right



But omg they already did a deluxe edition in 2017, that means revisiting Prince's most popular album with proper Vault material and a decent remastering over a half a decade later is immoral and wrong wink


[Edited 10/26/23 0:19am]



Easy wih the dramatics.

It's neither immoral or wrong, and I recognize the majority of you will likely greet every repeat SDE of 'Purple Rain' with open arms.

It's still lame. For me as a fan who would like to see one of his other 40 albums get some shine once in awhile. I'm very happy for the rest of you getting the priviledge of shelling out your hard-earned cash for the triple-dip.

It's delusional to believe they're not going to intentionally omit Vault material yet again, however.

And it's straight-up ridiculous to keep bringing up the abominable 2017 remaster like this is the utmost pressing concern to fix. The original CD is great. You can't just put that on instead? These remasters are ponderous. Aaalllll this just to improve your shuffle mixes on Spotify? The 80s material isn't the problem, the 90s/00s material being brickwalled is the problem, you should all rally together to get that stuff remastered to be closer to the levels on the 80s CDs instead, not the other way around.




You're not interested in a PROPER release of PR era Vault tracks? As much as I like the studio demo, I'd REALLY like to hear the overdubbed studio-live of Electric Intercourse, for one. Or a full version of Dance Electric without the bootleg watermark in it. PR deserves a proper SDE release, IMO, and it certainly deserves one before going into many of the lower-selling albums.
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Reply #43 posted 10/30/23 10:32pm

strawberrylett
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WhisperingDandelions said:

The original CD is great. You can't just put that on instead? These remasters are ponderous. Aaalllll this just to improve your shuffle mixes on Spotify? The 80s material isn't the problem, the 90s/00s material being brickwalled is the problem, you should all rally together to get that stuff remastered to be closer to the levels on the 80s CDs instead, not the other way around.

The orignal CD is *okay*, a proper remaster would be fantastic.


I didn't find the 1999 remaster ponderous, in terms of having a great tape transfer with great EQ it is my definitive version of the album, way ahead of the original CD and better than the EQ of the HDTracks version. Same with SOTT

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Reply #44 posted 10/30/23 10:33pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:

It's still lame. For me as a fan who would like to see one of his other 40 albums get some shine once in awhile. I'm very happy for the rest of you getting the priviledge of shelling out your hard-earned cash for the triple-dip.

Streaming services are a thing though- unless you are talking about those well-off enough enough to shell out 10 bucks a month to begin with, "triple dipping" isn't neccesarily a thing people even have to do to enjoy a proper PR remaster with more Vault tracks from that era

Aaalllll this just to improve your shuffle mixes on Spotify? The 80s material isn't the problem, the 90s/00s material being brickwalled is the problem, you should all rally together to get that stuff remastered to be closer to the levels on the 80s CDs instead, not the other way around.

Shuffle mixes? I just want a Purple Rain that isn't paper thin sounding like the 80s CD and for it to get the glow up like 1999 did with a nice modern tape transfer, dynamic mastering AND great expansive EQ choices

I would love the loudness-wars laden 90s and 00s albums to get more dynamic remasters. But that is not mutually exclusive to the idea of Purple Rain getting its first *proper* decent modern mastering for the first time since the original CD came out, as well as a proper set of bonus tracks sourced from decent sourced, of which has not happened yet

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Reply #45 posted 10/30/23 10:44pm

strawberrylett
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All of this just to say, Purple Rain has yet to get a release that has done it justice since it originally came out - this is one of those albums that deserve a super expansive and lavish box set and way more than was done in 2017. And I have no doubts Prince's entire catalogue will get some time to shine so I don't see it is a "either/or"

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Reply #46 posted 10/31/23 12:52pm

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Don't care. Bore off.

It's going to be super expensive and contain basically the same vault material as the last remaster. Which people will buy and complain that they already own. There are probably 5 people on the org who will ACTUALLY be able to hear any difference in the sound (I'm not one of them. Neither are you if the sum of your posts on such issues are "this sounds better") while the rest are streaming lossy MP3s to Bluetooth headphones posting that they're so happy to have something that FINALLY "sounds good".

There are a lot of SDEs to get through, and already we're onto the third iteration of PR. At this point variety is more important to me than clarity. If the plan is 1 SDE per year, half the org will literally be dead before we get an SDE for each album... Not to mention the stuff that was never intended for an album/the unreleased albums we don't know about/all the cover versions/collaborations and other fun stuff.
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Reply #47 posted 10/31/23 1:22pm

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If this ever actually happens, i'll just download the stuff of interest.

This will probably be my purchasing procedure from now on.

The D&P SDE is still sitting here next to me and i haven't even listened to it yet...

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #48 posted 10/31/23 1:53pm

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Ndorphinmachina said:

Don't care. Bore off.

It's going to be super expensive and contain basically the same vault material as the last remaster. Which people will buy and complain that they already own. There are probably 5 people on the org who will ACTUALLY be able to hear any difference in the sound (I'm not one of them. Neither are you if the sum of your posts on such issues are "this sounds better") while the rest are streaming lossy MP3s to Bluetooth headphones posting that they're so happy to have something that FINALLY "sounds good".

There are a lot of SDEs to get through, and already we're onto the third iteration of PR. At this point variety is more important to me than clarity. If the plan is 1 SDE per year, half the org will literally be dead before we get an SDE for each album... Not to mention the stuff that was never intended for an album/the unreleased albums we don't know about/all the cover versions/collaborations and other fun stuff.

I'm only interested in PR SDE if it contains a large amount of completely unknown vault tracks. But I fear we will mostly get alternate versions of songs we already have like Dance Electric, Father's song and Wonderful Ass. I wouldn't be surprised if they include the Syracuse show (4th release?) and maybe another show. I really hope the estate will release prince SDE sometime before the PR set.
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Reply #49 posted 10/31/23 2:14pm

Landonfunkmonk
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I wonder if this fully compiled already.

I would hope for a June/July release.
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #50 posted 10/31/23 8:25pm

SoulAlive

strawberryletter23 said:

Purple Rain has yet to get a release that has done it justice since it originally came out - this is one of those albums that deserve a super expansive and lavish box set and way more than was done in 2017.


THIS.
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Reply #51 posted 11/01/23 6:19am

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SoulAlive said:

strawberryletter23 said:

Purple Rain has yet to get a release that has done it justice since it originally came out - this is one of those albums that deserve a super expansive and lavish box set and way more than was done in 2017.


THIS.


Really?

I don't get it. Nobody ever mentioned PR needing a remaster back when Prince was still with us. People wanted an expanded edition sure. SOTT was the only album in dire need of a remaster. The rest would be nice to have but not having them doesn't make the original albums unlistenable.

PR isn't in need of "Justice". It hasn't been hard done by. It's a founding member of the Avengers. Parade maybe. But if we're talking about albums in need of justice, how about Come/Gold/Chaos/Exodus. The circumstances surrounding their release, widely overlooked.

TRC widely ignored first time around. "If you're not a Jehovah's Witness, it's not for you" is the common (nonsense) perception.

3rdEyeGirl the band that breathed new life into his live shows. Genuine reinvention of some classic songs. One album that, for the most part, really didn't do justice to their sound. "Indifference".

The Truth, is an album in need of justice. Purple Rain by comparison just needs a hug.
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Reply #52 posted 11/01/23 8:01am

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^


Well said! lol

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Reply #53 posted 11/02/23 1:42pm

SoulAlive

Landonfunkmonkey said:

I wonder if this fully compiled already.

I would hope for a June/July release.


That would be great.
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Reply #54 posted 11/02/23 3:59pm

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I don't think they're doing a Purple Rain set next year.
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Reply #55 posted 11/02/23 8:28pm

SoulAlive

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I don't think they're doing a Purple Rain set next year.


Wasn’t there a recent interview where Duane (if I’m not mistaken) basically confirmed that there will be a 40th anniversary SDE?
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Reply #56 posted 11/03/23 12:58am

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This is the only forum I know of where the sentence "Purple Rain has yet to get a proper deluxe edition" is controversial lol

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Reply #57 posted 11/03/23 2:23am

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SoulAlive said:

TheGloved1 said:
I don't think they're doing a Purple Rain set next year.
Wasn’t there a recent interview where Duane (if I’m not mistaken) basically confirmed that there will be a 40th anniversary SDE?


iirc he said that they don't have any fixed notion of having to release an sde of a particular album
just because an anniversary is coming up. so that might suggest they would not do PR next year?

although I can see them letting go of 10/20/30 year celebebrations for everything else but for PR
it would sort of make sense as just a little bit of extra promotional push for his biggest selling album.

I wouldn't mind them concentrating on a HUGE purple rain box next year, just to get it out of the
way. I like the album, I like all the outtakes/session tracks we have so far.

And although I would love to have Parade next, I know that I always end up getting swept up in the
PR frenzy whenever I focus on that album so whatever they release next year, I'll be happy smile

As long as Modernaire with Prince vox is included, obviously lol

May U Live 2 See The Release of Parade SDE
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Reply #58 posted 11/03/23 9:18am

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SoulAlive said:

TheGloved1 said:
I don't think they're doing a Purple Rain set next year.
Wasn’t there a recent interview where Duane (if I’m not mistaken) basically confirmed that there will be a 40th anniversary SDE?

Check reply #11 smile

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Reply #59 posted 11/03/23 11:55am

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Gooddoctor23 said:

I've purchased PP 10 times or more. I'm bored with it at this point. Buying the same shit over & over again.

PP? I guess you meant PR, right? confused

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