bluegangsta said:

bizzie said:

Vannormal said:

Thank you.

First link is not working for me...

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Fixed now.

Thank you.

billymeade said:

"We hate everything!" - org

It is not about hating everything...

You simply like a song or not. Nothing wrong with that.

And if people put personal consequences to that, like not willing to buy the SDE, it's a fair comment.

These are all just personal critical opinions.

Not every song Prince wrote, released or unreleased, is ginius.

Accept the .org as a forum for discussion, opinoins, likes and dislikes, which is what it always was.

What i am happy about is that the personal attacks are starting to get behind us.

The .org is finally growing up with all these 40+ and 50+ fans.

Before anyone mentions Bizzie; he thrives on verbally attacking imperfection, misinformation, and typos by openly vilifying them in public. But, I often see the humor in it too.

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Back to the topic: It's great that Andrea Swensson was able to find Casi.

To me, Casi's voice and story sound very normal and plausible.

I think it was even irrelevant to ask whether or not they fucked at that age.

As we all more or less know, Prince fictionalized (a lot) in his songs.

I remeber a podcast where women who Prince shared his bed with spoke, about how he liked to do girlie-things with them, instead of acting like a horny pony who gett's off all the time.

Think of Neurotic Lover's Bedroom, strangulation sex and the use of drugs, and the offering of them, that never was Prince.

Many inhibitions, insecurities and fantasies in Prince's head found a way in lyrics ...

He lived on creating his own misteries.

Found this on Twitter/X, what the hell is this? Written by ChatGPT?

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it's nice to see that some things remain the way they always were since the mid 80's.

every new release gets splattered with the stench of reports that 'it could have been
so much more if only THIS real good song was added' and 'but he also recorded nine
completely unrelated trax that rival everything he ever put out, but the record company
doesn't want to release them' bla bla bla.

at this point we can't even have a single without someone coming out of the woodwork
to let us know that yes, it's a decent single, but it's not the complete song, or a rewrite
or a bad mono mix of the actual song that is out there, which is phenomenal and which
is on an album that we will never get to hear, which is better than SOTT and 1999 and
Purple Rain combined.

soon the official twitter will post something like "here are some pictures of a nice new
exhibit at paisley park and the first people enjoying it" and the responses will be that
at the same time, from a basement in utah, an unknown person streamed seven prime
era prince tracks unknown to anyone, even the estate or former band members, and
the 4 people who listened to it on zoom or speaker phone are convinced that whatever
tour exhibit pp is offering, people don't even know, they have no fucking clue as to the
things they just heard.

somehow this is part of the whole experience. is it a sort of stockholm syndrome?

at this point it's almost as much a part of new prince music than actual new prince
music. and as much as I loathe it, I can't look away and in some twisted way I love
it almost as much as actual new music.

SoulAlive said:

the 12” of “Daddy Pop” is kinda cool

dustoff said:

homesquid said:

"Darkside" should have never been released. The kind of thing you listen to once

Opposite reaction for me, I think Darkside is great. Feels looser and more authentic than anything I've heard from this D&P set so far. Love the panting and grunting or whatever he's doing. This is the kind of thing I could listen to on repeat.

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Absolutely!
It's a hell of a guitar, bass and drum groove. I love when we hear his instrutions to the band....and that beatboxing!

Vannormal said:

It's quite an accomplishment that this whole set hasn't leaked yet

might as well just wait until the 27th now

LILpoundCAKE said:

FragileUndertow said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

It's quite an accomplishment that this whole set hasn't leaked yet

might as well just wait until the 27th now

At this point I'll just wait. I havent heard Darkside yet

you aint missin much , just another version of blood on the sheets .. i even heard the dolby atmos of D&P and some of it was cool , but one song in particular daddy pop had such a heavy buzz going on the vocals were mixed into it, so really hard to hear the vocals at all . I was hoping dark side and blood on the sheets were two completely original songs, but i was wrong, why would we want that ? the estate has got us figured out , yes please give us more lame instrumentals ... thats what we want. I aint buyin this BS , im sure prince recorded dozens of songs around D&P , and this is the shit we get ?

i aint buyin it

WhisperingDandelions said:

Vannormal said:

Found this on Twitter/X, what the hell is this? Written by ChatGPT?

[Edited 10/21/23 1:03am]

It's based on some posts I've made across a couple of forums.

^^ correct.

BUT, the man still has so much unreleased music. so while we have enough to keep us busy for many years, there is more in the vault that could keep us BUSIER for even more years, which is what we all want really. i am still excited to hear the other unreleased songs, but do i expect it to blow me away and think, well damn, he had enough to release another, even better album in 1991, no.

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WhisperingDandelions said:

Look, Prince is a cult artist who put out more duds than chart sucesses. His cult has many, many, maaany favorites and D&P ain't one of them. These ain't SDE's for the Backstreet Boys or Britney Spears. It might benefit the Estate to somewhat acknowledge what the cult actually wants (or in this specific instance, doesn't want).

Speak for yourself. This here 'cult' member is very much looking forward to the release. D&P is one of my favourites, it's the album that bought me to Prince.There are loads of people looking forward to this. Most of them won't post here because of the disparagiing from the, 'Prince peaked at 7 when he played the Batman theme on the family piano and everything since then has been shit', crowd.

EnglishGent2 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

Look, Prince is a cult artist who put out more duds than chart sucesses. His cult has many, many, maaany favorites and D&P ain't one of them. These ain't SDE's for the Backstreet Boys or Britney Spears. It might benefit the Estate to somewhat acknowledge what the cult actually wants (or in this specific instance, doesn't want).

Speak for yourself. This here 'cult' member is very much looking forward to the release. D&P is one of my favourites, it's the album that bought me to Prince.There are loads of people looking forward to this. Most of them won't post here because of the disparagiing from the, 'Prince peaked at 7 when he played the Batman theme on the family piano and everything since then has been shit', crowd.

it does tend to get to that point here quite often, doesn't it?

only reason you guys think it HASNT been all downhill since the batman theme at age 7 recording is cos you havent heard it. when the estate release it as part of the batman SDE (next on the list, as it was one of his big sellers) you will finally understand what collectors have known for decades.

In Darkside notes, I read is Levi on guitar. So the guitar solo is not Prince, correct?

themanfromneptune said:

D&P has never been a favorite of mine, but I've been revisiting it since the remastered album has been available for download. My opinion of it has gone up some. I still don't love it, but I'm not as dismissive of it as I once was.

One thing that's helped me enjoy it more is removing Thunder. I don't necessarily dislike that song. I just don't think its production fits the album. I sounds like the one-man-band stuff he'd been doing on Batman and Graffiti Bridge, which doesn't fit the full band sound of the rest of D&P. I think it would have been better as a b-side or bonus track on a 12".

I've removed Jughead as well. I don't hate on that song as much as some people do, but I think it and Push in quick (though not immediate) succession are just too much. The album certainly needs an uptempo song on the second half, but it only needs one, not two. And of the two, I'll go with Push. At least it's got more Prince vocals.

I used to also skip Money Don't Matter 2Night, but now I can listen to it without falling asleep.

I like Darkside, kinda a demo rehearsel. That riff is sick.

WhisperingDandelions said:

While there is perhaps some validity to this post, that validity is highly predicated on this being a little worse than "not their favorite era." It's literally bottom-tier Prince as far as eras go, to the extent I question what IF ANY demand there was from any significant continent of Prince fans to get this as the 3rd SDE.

Yeah, yeah, blah blah dated record sales. Look, Prince is a cult artist who put out more duds than chart sucesses. His cult has many, many, maaany favorites and D&P ain't one of them.

To say this is one of Prince's lowest periods seems a bit obtuse. The man reinvented his band, and had a #1 hit again, something he'd not had for a couple of years (since "Batdance;" although "Thieves in the Temple" was #1 only on the R&B chart). The title track was also #1, and would be his last for a few years.

While I agree that D&P is an odd choice for an SDE, those credits alone probably gave the estate enough wherewithal to pay attention to it. It was more commercial than Graffiti Bridge (which can only be described as a vanity project, at best - other than "a hot mess").

Prince wasn't a cult artist, but he had a cult following. Prince still aimed for the mainstream more than not sometimes, and certainly reached it. The man was sitting on The View a few times, for fuck's sake, plus sat with Larry Graham, was on Today more times than we can count, and did one-off specials (like the multi-network Emancipation special, and Musicology) to name a few.

You more described someone like Peter Gabriel. That dude is so fucking precious about his music, he can't get out of his own fucking way to just make a record. A friend who is a fan went to Gabriel's show the other day. Gave it a 6/10. "Amazing voice, super artsy, just WAY too self-indulgent" were his words. Most of the new album, i/o, which has still yet to come out was represented, but who in the audience knows songs from a PG record that isn't out yet? They were dull moments.

PG's a cult artist with two or three massive hit songs and a handful of moderate chart successes. Prince had to be one of the most successful artists in the world from 1982 to at least the mid-90s, and hit n' misses later on. "Sledgehammer" was his only #1 American hit, and "Steam" only hit #1 in Canada. Prince had way more #1s or top 10s than that.

Maybe D&P was a richer era than we're giving it credit for. Maybe it's not. D&P is a bit uneven. The first side works great, the second side has a few things that could be redone. I personally can't wait for "Willing and Able" and whatever other track that doesn't have that wannabe rapper on it. The 12" of "Daddy Pop" could've easily been the album track (with a tiny bit of editing for the sake of time issues). We don't know, but the 12" designation almost seems like an after thought. We'll know more when the outtakes show up.

I doubt we will see any Cosmic Day's or Wallys. lol

I'll take a 1,000 songs like Darkside from Prince.

themanfromneptune said:

In Darkside notes, I read is Levi on guitar. So the guitar solo is not Prince, correct?

lol......100% Prince.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

only reason you guys think it HASNT been all downhill since the batman theme at age 7 recording is cos you havent heard it. when the estate release it as part of the batman SDE (next on the list, as it was one of his big sellers) you will finally understand what collectors have known for decades.

Can you elaborate?